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There's the story on the internet about the English girl that wanted to wear a purity ring to her school, but the school forbids all jewelry, including those of a religious expression nature. What do you think?

Are these rings kind of dubious?

Has the school overstepped its bounds?

Lord knows, we have a history of Florence schools wishing to overregulate their students. It seems to me that kids should have some leeway, even with "I [heart] [the Superintendent] shirts.
"The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of the Conservatives is to prevent the mistakes from being corrected." -- Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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Originally posted by Elvis Wearing a Bra on Head:
There's the story on the internet about the English girl that wanted to wear a purity ring to her school, but the school forbids all jewelry, including those of a religious expression nature. What do you think?

Are these rings kind of dubious?

Has the school overstepped its bounds?

Lord knows, we have a history of Florence schools wishing to overregulate their students. It seems to me that kids should have some leeway, even with "I [heart] [the Superintendent] shirts.

If there is a rule and it says "no jewelry", then don't wear any, period. It doesn't matter if it's religious or not. It's a rule. It's not an attack on her belief. They are not making her do anything to compromise her purity. Geez. It's just a ring.
Is the purity ring duibious? Do not send her out with a purity ring and a tight Tee or one of those blouses cut to the navel. You are delivering a terrible tease message and putting a bind on her and any male aquaintance. Do not let her stay out until the wee hours thinking all she has to do is twist the ring at the moment of decision. Hormones can overpower dinner with mamma and a little gold band any time. The girls are not bad----they are subject to rough basic human physical pressures. Momma, you have been hot and bothered or she would not be here. Think about it!!!
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Originally posted by ed6438:
I'm against uniforms and overregimentation.

But, seriously, the t-shirt was surely ironic. It's hard to love a school administrator!


As a life-long educator, I agree 100%! Uniforms, IMO, stifle a child's INDIVIDUALITY and CREATIVITY. Uniforms also send the WRONG message regarding 'learning to cope' with OTHER people's self-expression. I am sick of every 'wanna-be king/queen' attempting to legislate every waking minute of kids' lives.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by ed6438:
I'm against uniforms and overregimentation.

But, seriously, the t-shirt was surely ironic. It's hard to love a school administrator!


As a life-long educator, I agree 100%! Uniforms, IMO, stifle a child's INDIVIDUALITY and CREATIVITY. Uniforms also send the WRONG message regarding 'learning to cope' with OTHER people's self-expression. I am sick of every 'wanna-be king/queen' attempting to legislate every waking minute of kids' lives.


Kids do not wear the uniforms 24/7. Individual expression is NOT squelched. They could develop OPINIONS and reason to take the place of clothes as a way to display their individuality. For me any effort to make school a place of learning instead of a fashion show competition is far more important than any imagined benefit of self expression.
'Imagined'? In the 23 years I've spent as a teacher and administrator I can recall NO time when a student's clothing was a determining factor in any incident.

Uniforms are a 'CYA' approach used by school adminstrators less inclined to discipline students exhibiting 'bullying' behaviors. Changing one's clothing does little to nothing to prevent bullying. Rather than choosing to confront the issue of bullying HEAD ON, some school systems try a 'blanket approach'. Such an approach is more 'lawyer proof' (CYA???). Heaven forbid a school actually confront OR punish a bully....
Amen to no uniforms. It is time for all of us instead of conforming to uniforms to resist the trash that is out there for our children to wear. I am the mother of a 3 year old and find it terribly offensive to have to search through clothing to make sure sexy or hot is not on the back of her pants.

More parents need to look at what their children are wearing and think 'not on my child'. It is inappropriate for a child that is under the age of 18 or 21 respectfully to wear a tabacco or alcohol related shirt. The same for any type of drug referenced shirt or item.
Last year the Florence School system put a dress code into effect that was a joke. Instead of a simple...nothing on the butt, or anything not age appropriate, we went into a long list of shirts must be tucked and only Florence Spirit logo's were approved and then they could not be x" in size. Lets get real Administrators. Go out to a store and find non logo t-shirts in a size 5 or 6. Is batman, dora or spiderman really that offensive? Make the kids pull up their pants or send them home. As a working parent, I assure you that if my son or daughter where ever sent home for inappropriate dress it would be the one and only time.

Let kids express themselves if it is positive. What are we as a society so afraid of? Are parents today really so incapable of taking care of their own children, or is it because the support system doesn't go both ways. Parents don't want to take responsibility for their children and administrators don't want to discipline the kids. Everyone parents and administrators alike need to support teachers and schools. (Steps off her soap box))
I'm against uniforms, although I can understand the good intent that some people have regarding the leveling of possible social class differences or the discouragement of inappropriate dress in the school setting. I'm not for bad taste! However, there might an overestimation as to its being a problem in real life. Barring that, some schools or teachers love to try to act in loco parentis.

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Originally posted by Princess Lum:
I'm against uniforms, although I can understand the good intent that some people have regarding the leveling of possible social class differences or the discouragement of inappropriate dress in the school setting. I'm not for bad taste! However, there might an overestimation as to its being a problem in real life. Barring that, some schools or teachers love to try to act in loco parentis.



LEGALLY, teachers ARE considered "in loco parentis"....but that fact doesn't automatically dispense them with wisdom.
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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Exactly. Children who attend schools where uniforms are required perform better and behavioral problems are fewer.



I totally agree!!!!

I also agree about any jewelry since we knew a young lady that had her nice engagement ring stolen from gym class. She never saw it again. It would have been better if she had of left it at home every morning and she would have still had it.

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