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Your chance to make a better Alabama.  I received the following message today and thought it would be nice to share it with my friends (or FRANS, if you are among the Bill Gray assemblage)
 
 
<<<Grassroots support for the ACLU is strong in Alabama . But, it needs to be stronger. And you can be one of the 125 people acting today to make it that way. 

We're facing a massive state-by-state assault on our fundamental freedoms. My job at the ACLU is to support ACLU staff across the country who are on the front lines of responding to this state-by-state onslaught. 

The ACLU is on the ground defending freedom in all 50 states. But with our opponents escalating their attacks going into 2012, we need to be ready to respond at a moment's notice in every single state — including right here in Alabama. 

Help us reach today's goal of 125 more donors from Alabama. Your donation of $35, $50, or more will be doubled thanks to our Rapid Response Matching Fund. (Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.) 

We've seen voter ID laws aimed at restricting access to the ballot introduced in over 30 states, hundreds of bills put forward to restrict access to abortion and birth control, and a wave of "show me your papers" racial profiling laws passed. 

No matter where these threats arise, all of us must respond. Our goal today is to add 2,000 donors to our Rapid Response Matching Fund. We've done the math — we need 125 people in Alabama to participate. 

Make a Rapid Response donation of $35, $50, or more and your gift will be doubled in its impact. 

As extremists escalate their state-by-state efforts to undermine freedom in 2012, we will have our work cut out for us. But, everywhere I go, I meet people who have had enough and are ready to fight back. You and the ACLU must lead the way. 

On behalf of my ACLU colleagues all across the country, thank you for responding as quickly and generously as you can.

 

Sincerely,

Geri Rozanski 
Director, Affiliate Support and Advocacy

I yam what I yam and that's all I yam--but it is enough!

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Originally Posted by Contendah:
 
Your chance to make a better Alabama.  I received the following message today and thought it would be nice to share it with my friends (or FRANS, if you are among the Bill Gray assemblage)
 
 
<<<Grassroots support for the ACLU is strong in Alabama . But, it needs to be stronger. And you can be one of the 125 people acting today to make it that way. 

We're facing a massive state-by-state assault on our fundamental freedoms. My job at the ACLU is to support ACLU staff across the country who are on the front lines of responding to this state-by-state onslaught. 

The ACLU is on the ground defending freedom in all 50 states. But with our opponents escalating their attacks going into 2012, we need to be ready to respond at a moment's notice in every single state — including right here in Alabama. 

Help us reach today's goal of 125 more donors from Alabama. Your donation of $35, $50, or more will be doubled thanks to our Rapid Response Matching Fund. (Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.) 

We've seen voter ID laws aimed at restricting access to the ballot introduced in over 30 states, hundreds of bills put forward to restrict access to abortion and birth control, and a wave of "show me your papers" racial profiling laws passed. 

No matter where these threats arise, all of us must respond. Our goal today is to add 2,000 donors to our Rapid Response Matching Fund. We've done the math — we need 125 people in Alabama to participate. 

Make a Rapid Response donation of $35, $50, or more and your gift will be doubled in its impact. 

As extremists escalate their state-by-state efforts to undermine freedom in 2012, we will have our work cut out for us. But, everywhere I go, I meet people who have had enough and are ready to fight back. You and the ACLU must lead the way. 

On behalf of my ACLU colleagues all across the country, thank you for responding as quickly and generously as you can.

 

Sincerely,

Geri Rozanski 
Director, Affiliate Support and Advocacy

The ACLU is one of the reasons this country is in such a messs. Don't fall for this propaganda folks.

Originally Posted by Jobe:

The ACLU has a problem with voter ID? If so, they are for voter fraud. Just another outlet for the liberal left.

 

Don’t waste you money with the ACLU which stands for Anti Christian Lunatics United. 

 

There is no problem with voter fraud. This voter id is a solution to prevent the problem of people actually being able to do their Constitutional privilege and duty. In other words, voter id is a way to dis-infranchise the young, the old, and the poor. The federal court has already struck down the S.C. law for that reason. look for more to come.

Gingee sez: The ACLU is one of the reasons this country is in such a messs. Don't fall for this propaganda folks.

 

The ACLU's agenda is to fight for the rights of an individual as described in the Bill of Rights.

Which one of the rights , contained in the Bill of Rights, do you oppose, or oppose  them fighting for ?

Originally Posted by Jobe:

The ACLU has a problem with voter ID? If so, they are for voter fraud. Just another outlet for the liberal left.

 

Don’t waste you money with the ACLU which stands for Anti Christian Lunatics United. 

 

 

 

Another manufactured crisis to be used for political ends: Disenfranchisement of voters likely to vote Democratic in 2012. You could say Republican governors are helping Mitch McConnell get his wish.

 

<h6 class="kicker">EDITORIAL</h6>

The Myth of Voter Fraud

<h6 class="dateline">Published: October 9, 2011</h6>

 

It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election.


Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

 

None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.

 

Read the rest at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10...-of-voter-fraud.html

 

STUDY: Feds Prosecuted Only 38 Cases Of Voter Fraud Between 2002-05, 14 Were Thrown Out

 


 
Originally Posted by The Propagandist:
Originally Posted by Jobe:

The ACLU has a problem with voter ID? If so, they are for voter fraud. Just another outlet for the liberal left.

 

Don’t waste you money with the ACLU which stands for Anti Christian Lunatics United. 

 

 

 

Another manufactured crisis to be used for political ends: Disenfranchisement of voters likely to vote Democratic in 2012. You could say Republican governors are helping Mitch McConnell get his wish.

 

<h6 class="kicker">EDITORIAL</h6>

The Myth of Voter Fraud

<h6 class="dateline">Published: October 9, 2011</h6>

 

It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election.


Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

 

None of these explanations are true. There is almost no voting fraud in America. And none of the lawmakers who claim there is have ever been able to document any but the most isolated cases. The only reason Republicans are passing these laws is to give themselves a political edge by suppressing Democratic votes.

 

Read the rest at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10...-of-voter-fraud.html

 

STUDY: Feds Prosecuted Only 38 Cases Of Voter Fraud Between 2002-05, 14 Were Thrown Out

 


 Most voter fraud is prosecuted at the state level.  One needs an ID to do almost anything in the US, including apply for welfare. About the only ones who don't have ID are in state institutions or illegals.  Neither of which should be voting.
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Funny how a certain group of the "poor" don't mind showing ID when they sign up for government programs, but balk if ask to show it to vote. 

 

 

Tell us all about the process of signing up for government programs. What kinds of ID are required. No off-the-top-of-the-head make believe, please; official sources only.

Originally Posted by The Propagandist:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Funny how a certain group of the "poor" don't mind showing ID when they sign up for government programs, but balk if ask to show it to vote. 

 

 

Tell us all about the process of signing up for government programs. What kinds of ID are required. No off-the-top-of-the-head make believe, please; official sources only.

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If you don't know how it works, if you've never been concerned enough to find out how people get on the government dole, what are you doing even posting on the subject? If you want "official sources" do what everyone else that is interested in it does, ask the "officials". Or you can visit the websites for the print out forms and "guidelines". There is just a bit more to it than someone walking in and asking for the benefits. But even though there is more to it they still manage to come up with what they need. Now answer this truthfully. Why wouldn't you want people to show ID that proves they are eligible to vote? Scared you can't keep putting the lefties in office?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

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If you don't know how it works, if you've never been concerned enough to find out how people get on the government dole, what are you doing even posting on the subject? If you want "official sources" do what everyone else that is interested in it does, ask the "officials". Or you can visit the websites for the print out forms and "guidelines". There is just a bit more to it than someone walking in and asking for the benefits. But even though there is more to it they still manage to come up with what they need. Now answer this truthfully. Why wouldn't you want people to show ID that proves they are eligible to vote? Scared you can't keep putting the lefties in office?



Yes, thats right.

THe "voter suppression laws" disproportionately affect minorities, elderly, students, the disabled, and the homeless, the poor and veterans.

WHy is it necessary to impose an unCOnstitutional poll restriction to make it possible to elect Repubics???  Why dont average people vote Repubic???

 

The fact is that voter fraud is not a problem and all these laws will be thrown out of fededral court as unConstitutional. 

Democracy is the freedom to raise unqualified hell about any and everything, not having any clue as to solving the problem at hand, growing weary with the much ado, fall asleep and wake up the next day, start the cycle all over again, none the wiser about decisions the deserving rich made on your behalf while you were napping. 

   Reminds me of this political forum. LOL Fall in line ye lackeys or” Join a Union”

You are not the “deserving” and will never be.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

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If you don't know how it works, if you've never been concerned enough to find out how people get on the government dole, what are you doing even posting on the subject? If you want "official sources" do what everyone else that is interested in it does, ask the "officials". Or you can visit the websites for the print out forms and "guidelines". There is just a bit more to it than someone walking in and asking for the benefits. But even though there is more to it they still manage to come up with what they need. Now answer this truthfully. Why wouldn't you want people to show ID that proves they are eligible to vote? Scared you can't keep putting the lefties in office?



Yes, thats right.

THe "voter suppression laws" disproportionately affect minorities, elderly, students, the disabled, and the homeless, the poor and veterans.

WHy is it necessary to impose an unCOnstitutional poll restriction to make it possible to elect Repubics???  Why dont average people vote Repubic???

 

The fact is that voter fraud is not a problem and all these laws will be thrown out of fededral court as unConstitutional. 

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I went to vote. A man came out agitated. He was turned away because they claimed he had already voted. He was angry, he was upset, because he KNEW voter fraud was involved. It sure as heck was a problem for HIM. He said they weren't willing to even discuss it with him (how they got away with that is beyond me) and the best he could hope for was that whoever voted in his name voted the way he would have. I hope he followed up and complained to someone that would listen to him. Now multiply that and other "irregularities" by thousands and then claim voter fraud isn't a problem. I guess ID theft isn't a big deal either.

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

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If you don't know how it works, if you've never been concerned enough to find out how people get on the government dole, what are you doing even posting on the subject? If you want "official sources" do what everyone else that is interested in it does, ask the "officials". Or you can visit the websites for the print out forms and "guidelines". There is just a bit more to it than someone walking in and asking for the benefits. But even though there is more to it they still manage to come up with what they need. Now answer this truthfully. Why wouldn't you want people to show ID that proves they are eligible to vote? Scared you can't keep putting the lefties in office?



Yes, thats right.

THe "voter suppression laws" disproportionately affect minorities, elderly, students, the disabled, and the homeless, the poor and veterans.

WHy is it necessary to impose an unCOnstitutional poll restriction to make it possible to elect Repubics???  Why dont average people vote Repubic???

 

The fact is that voter fraud is not a problem and all these laws will be thrown out of fededral court as unConstitutional. 

 

 

Voter fraud may not be a problem on YOUR planet, Dittohead, but here on Earth it is.

ACORN fined $5K in Nev. voter registration scandal http://www.mynews4.com/news/lo...Cs0-QGQD848FUeg.cspx


1 VOTER, 72 REGISTRATIONS

'ACORN PAID ME IN CASH & CIGS'


CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

 

"Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they'll give me a dollar to sign up," said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

 

"The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered. The girl said, 'You are?' I say, 'Yup,' and then they say, 'Can you just sign up again?' " he said.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/p...ZVnGMM#ixzz1hkm5fDiu

Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

In that case, he should cast a challenge ballot and then take up the issue with the voter registrar.  A poll worker has no authority to "do" anything.  


Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud. 

Next?

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I posted they wouldn't "discuss" it with him. What are they doing there if they can't even tell someone   what their options are in a case like that?  And how do you figure it isn't voter fraud? Do you even vote? 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Funny how a certain group of the "poor" don't mind showing ID when they sign up for government programs, but balk if ask to show it to vote. 

 

 Propie's post:

Tell us all about the process of signing up for government programs. What kinds of ID are required. No off-the-top-of-the-head make believe, please; official sources only

 

FYI, oh bulwalk of misinformation:

To apply for WIC:

At the WIC appointment, you will need to bring
proof of residency (a document with your street address on it, such as a lease or bill)
proof of identity (a driver's license), proof of income (pay stubs OR you would be automatically income eligible if you are currently enrolled in TANF, Food Stamps or Medicaid, so bring proof of enrollment)

http://alabama-wic-information.alabama.aidpage.com/

 

To apply for food stamps:

proof of identity( driver’s license, birth certificate), check stubs, proof of unearned income ( child support, social security, or SSI), rent receipts, medical bills , bank statements, and day care receipts.

http://www.dhr.state.al.us/doc...ts/FoodStampAppl.pdf

 

Poor old Propie, his propoganda is out of the thirties and his ideas are out of his mind!

What’s the rationale for all of these new voting restrictions? Preventing voter fraud -- which might make sense if anyone could find any to prevent.

 

Law professor Justin Levitt points out that since 2000 there have been more UFO sightings in the U.S. than documented cases of the type of voter fraud that could be prevented by photo ID—just nine cases of impersonation between 2000 and 2006 out of more than 400 million votes cast. 

 

 

(The League of Women Voters debunks myths about voter impersonation in this helpful blog post.)

Back to Indiana, where a volunteer election protection lawyer had this to say:

Here's the supreme irony. . . This law was passed supposedly to prevent and deter voter fraud, even though there was no real record of serious voter fraud in Indiana. Here you have a bunch of nuns whose votes can't be accepted by a bunch of nuns. . . who live with them in the polling place in their convent because they don't have an ID.

I guess we’d better make sure we’re checking the pilots of those UFOs for ID as they line up to vote — because it seems like they’re the only ones trying to impersonate humans at the polls.

http://www.demos.org/blog/nuns...oter-id-requirements

 

Next time they go to the polls . . .?

What’s the rationale for all of these new voting restrictions? Preventing voter fraud -- which might make sense if anyone could find any to prevent.

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You answered your own question. Oh well, it's only fraud if the democrits are afraid someone else might do what they've done for all the years past.

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