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I also saw something about this on the news this morning. Corn is also getting to be in short supply as so many farmers are growing it for ethanol instead of consumption. I guess we'll start to see a big rise in the price of corn-based food items as well as pet food, chicken feed, etc.
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well I have spoken to several folks by phone this morning,(the usual morning thing) and I casually brought this subject up,no one is concerned, most simply laugh and say they do not eat enough rice to miss it. This attitude bothers me because EVERYTHING has a starting point. It scares me that this could very well be the starting point of something much bigger in the months ahead and its like so long as folks can get to the fast food joint of choice all is right with the world.
Smurph, that's the same attitude I'm finding with people I know. Trouble is, up until recently they weren't all that concerned with the gas thing. Now, they're sitting up and taking notice. It's all supply and demand. If we truly end up with a food shortage, they're going to find that even if they could afford the gas to get to their favorite fast food joint, the food might not be there, lol! We'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out, but I believe American society is too complacent in general and thinks nothing will really affect them. Having all the money in the world won't help when there's nothing to buy. You know what I mean?
Originally posted by smurph:
hey TSC, you are right bout that veggie garden ,saw a program just a couple nights ago on tv trying to encourge people to begin growing their own veggies,even to the point of telling how it can be done involving an entire neighborhood working a community type garden.
I think I saw the same show! It was a bunch of folks in different cities using the "community yard" at apartments and town homes, container gardens, and rooftop gardens. Very cool.

Quite true.

Here is the rest of my post from the other thread.
Major drought in Australia which is a large wheat producer. Using grains to make ethanol. Subsidizing grain in one country that destroys the other country's agriculture. Haiti used to produce rice, but so much cheap rice flowed into the country their agriculture was destroyed. Same for Africa agriculture and the EU. Urbanization destroying farmland.
Originally posted by MarianLibrarian:
I am making changes to not be so dependent on big agriculture for my food. I am planting a vegetable garden and I just signed up for a CSA that delivers meat, fruit, vegetables, eggs, and bread from a farm in Hohenwald, TN. I think that I will have enough extra that I will be able to freeze and can some of it to use through the winter.

Marian, can you PM me the details of the farm in Hohenwald. This could be pratical for me since I am not too far away from there. (Nashville)
BamaGirl, on their registration form they have the prices if you pick it up at one of the delivery sites. I'm sure it would be cheaper if you picked it up from the farm itself. Here's that link:

You might also want to look at this site where you can get lists of other CSAs. There is one is Huntsville but it is booked up for this year--they already have a waiting list for next year! You might find one that is closer to you in Tennessee, though, or that offers packages that would better suit your needs.

I think it is great that people are so interested in this! We really have to be proactive about these sort of things rather than waiting for the government to offer solutions. I hope that more farms in the Shoals will get on board with this eventually.
Okay, here's a question someone might have an answer for...

If we wanted to raise our own meat (cows, sheep, etc), is there a local slaughter house/butcher in the Shoals that will process the meat for us? My husband is investigating "Salad Bar Beef" and this is an idea we are rolling around in our heads.

I've already got my garden planned in my head. Now I just have roll up my sleeves and get to work.

I pulled this from Marian's link to

"A CSA, (for Community Supported Agriculture) is a way for the food buying public to create a relationship with a farm and to receive a weekly basket of produce. By making a financial commitment to a farm, people become "members" (or "shareholders," or "subscribers") of the CSA. Most CSA farmers prefer that members pay for the season up-front, but some farmers will accept weekly or monthly payments. Some CSAs also require that members work a small number of hours on the farm during the growing season."
Most CSA farmers prefer that members pay for the season up-front, but some farmers will accept weekly or monthly payments. Some CSAs also require that members work a small number of hours on the farm during the growing season."

Yeah, one reason I went with Avalon Farms is that they don't ask you to work on the farm, and you can pay as you go (although you do get a 10% discount if you pay for the entire season up front).
Originally posted by mandomama:
Wow, apparently the Shoals has our very own CSA: Jack O Lantern Farms. I've seen the signs across from the old Fogcutter in Sheffield, but never been there. I'm planning on making my first stop there in a few weeks, though.

For those of you who do not have a garden or don't know relatives, friends with one, please support these kinds of ventures if you can.

It is so much better for you and it helps local business prosper in your area. In other words, avoid Wal-Mart! It might be 1 mile out of the way, but it will taste 100 time better!

Most towns also have a local farmer's market. Call your Chamber of COmmerce to find out where,when.
Marian pointed out that at the Hohenwald CSA you DON'T have to be a farmer to join. You can even pay as you go each week. You are a "member", just as if you were a "member" of Sam's Club. Nothing major to it.

Also, the one in Muscle Shoals is a local couple and I don't believe you would need to be a member there. I posted the link to it too, so someone could call and find out.

And we would all be healthier if we stopped using grocery stores for produce and meat because we wouldn't be ingesting dangerous chemicals and TOXIC CRAP.

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