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Recent evidence that mustard gas was used by ISIS against Pershmanga troops this past weekend.  According to some sources this is likely part of a contingent of chemical weapons that were either stored or remain in Iraq, and part of Saddam's arsenal.  There were many more supposedly terrifying caches in there as well including, according to some experts, biological weapons.  let us hope that Obama and his administration have enough intestinal fortitude to help these clowns meet their 72 virgins as soon as possible.

Hillary in 2016?  Why not?  We've already had one "girly man" serving in office for the past 7 years, we might as well give her chance as well!

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Originally Posted by teyates:

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Recent evidence that mustard gas was used by ISIS against Pershmanga troops this past weekend.  According to some sources this is likely part of a contingent of chemical weapons that were either stored or remain in Iraq, and part of Saddam's arsenal.  There were many more supposedly terrifying caches in there as well including, according to some experts, biological weapons.  let us hope that Obama and his administration have enough intestinal fortitude to help these clowns meet their 72 virgins as soon as possible.

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"[L]ikely" and "supposedly" and "according to some sources" don't cut it, Dire.  The WMD thing was bogus.  Get over it.

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Contenduhh now confuses Teyates for myself.

 

Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts.

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Yes, I misdirected the comment, but its substance still counts. Neither you nor Teyates has addressed that yet, though, preferring to play gotcha instead.

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Contenduhh now confuses Teyates for myself.

 

Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts.

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Yes, I misdirected the comment, but its substance still counts. Neither you nor Teyates has addressed that yet, though, preferring to play gotcha instead.

 

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As if your "grammar gotchas" ever address anything of substance. 

 

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Contenduhh now confuses Teyates for myself.

 

Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts.

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Yes, I misdirected the comment, but its substance still counts. Neither you nor Teyates has addressed that yet, though, preferring to play gotcha instead.

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As I made no previous comment to this thread, besides the one questioning Contenduhh's mental faculties, there is no gotcha there. 

 

Obviously, whether mustard gas was used should be further investigated.  If true, the origin of mustard gas is the next. question. It could come from Syrian, Iraqi or Libyan stockpiles.  `Syria bas such.  Iraqi had such -- we found a few old munitions.  Qaddafi had mustard gas, as well, and was found there after his downfall.  During the turmoil,  a large amount of munitions moved by ship from Libya to ISIS in Syria.   A gift of the Obama administration, inadvertent, one supposes.

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Contenduhh now confuses Teyates for myself.

 

Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts.

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Yes, I misdirected the comment, but its substance still counts. Neither you nor Teyates has addressed that yet, though, preferring to play gotcha instead.

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As I made no previous comment to this thread, besides the one questioning Contenduhh's mental faculties, there is no gotcha there. 

 

Your comment was this::

 

"Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts." 

 

THAT is, without doubt, your contribution to the "gotcha" deflection, whether directed to me or to Teyates..

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by direstraits:

Contenduhh now confuses Teyates for myself.

 

Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts.

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Yes, I misdirected the comment, but its substance still counts. Neither you nor Teyates has addressed that yet, though, preferring to play gotcha instead.

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As I made no previous comment to this thread, besides the one questioning Contenduhh's mental faculties, there is no gotcha there. 

 

Your comment was this::

 

"Teyates, aren't there a few medical conditions that would explain this confusion and recent obsessive behavior?  Besides, of course, being just plain nuts." 

 

THAT is, without doubt, your contribution to the "gotcha" deflection, whether directed to me or to Teyates..

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As Teyates has a medical background and a number of persons have commented upon the changes in Contenduhh's postings, what I posted was a question.  Yes, with a bit of humor attached.  

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

 

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

 

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...complex-in-Iraq.html

 

Nope, no WMD's in Iraq!

Originally Posted by Stanky:

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

 

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

 

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...complex-in-Iraq.html

 

Nope, no WMD's in Iraq!

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Old stuff--it was known years ago that there were stocks of degraded chemical weapons on hand in Iraq:

 

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovi...06-701-munitions.pdf

 

And had you wished to  put a bit of balance and completeness into your ost, you could have noted this statement at the end by a U.S. expert familiar with the site:

 

"One US official told the Wall Street Journal yesterday that Isis fighters could be contaminated by the chemicals at the site.

'The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,' the military officer said."

 

So the hunt for those game-changing, deadly mass quantities of WMDs goes on!.

Last edited by Contendahh
Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Stanky:

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

 

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

 

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...complex-in-Iraq.html

 

Nope, no WMD's in Iraq!

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Old stuff--it was known years ago that there were stocks of degraded chemical weapons on hand in Iraq:

 

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovi...06-701-munitions.pdf

 

And had you wished to  put a bit of balance and completeness into your ost, you could have noted this statement at the end by a U.S. expert familiar with the site:

 

"One US official told the Wall Street Journal yesterday that Isis fighters could be contaminated by the chemicals at the site.

'The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,' the military officer said."

 

So the hunt for those game-changing, deadly mass quantities of WMDs goes on!.

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The UN report doesn't 'splain where Iraq's newer binary weapons went. It appears the US was stuck with handling the leaky and still lethal older weapons while the newer stock went to Syria.

 

While the shelf life of nerve agents such as the sarin, one of the chemical weapons found in Iraq and recently used in Syria, is short, an undated CIA report estimated that the Iraqis had improved their sarin stocks by increasing the purity of the chemical components and building binary weapons. In binary weapons, the components of the nerve agent are not combined until the weapon is ready to be used. This could make the shelf life of the weapon “irrelevant” and allow it to be stored for years before use. This means that if Iraqi stockpiles were transferred to Syria prior to 2003 they could still be lethal.

http://www.examiner.com/articl...addam-s-missing-wmds

 

Only one binary weapon was found, but only because terrorists tried to make use of it as an improvised weapon and with no rotation, there was little mixing of chemicals.

 

 

Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Stanky:

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

 

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

 

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...complex-in-Iraq.html

 

Nope, no WMD's in Iraq!

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Old stuff--it was known years ago that there were stocks of degraded chemical weapons on hand in Iraq:

 

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovi...06-701-munitions.pdf

 

And had you wished to  put a bit of balance and completeness into your ost, you could have noted this statement at the end by a U.S. expert familiar with the site:

 

"One US official told the Wall Street Journal yesterday that Isis fighters could be contaminated by the chemicals at the site.

'The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,' the military officer said."

 

So the hunt for those game-changing, deadly mass quantities of WMDs goes on!.

_____________________________________________

The UN report doesn't 'splain where Iraq's newer binary weapons went. It appears the US was stuck with handling the leaky and still lethal older weapons while the newer stock went to Syria.

 

While the shelf life of nerve agents such as the sarin, one of the chemical weapons found in Iraq and recently used in Syria, is short, an undated CIA report estimated that the Iraqis had improved their sarin stocks by increasing the purity of the chemical components and building binary weapons. In binary weapons, the components of the nerve agent are not combined until the weapon is ready to be used. This could make the shelf life of the weapon “irrelevant” and allow it to be stored for years before use. This means that if Iraqi stockpiles were transferred to Syria prior to 2003 they could still be lethal.

http://www.examiner.com/articl...addam-s-missing-wmds

 

Only one binary weapon was found, but only because terrorists tried to make use of it as an improvised weapon and with no rotation, there was little mixing of chemicals.

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And the conclusion of the article you selectively pasted from (bold emphasis added for obvious reasons):

 

"As yet there is no conclusive proof that Syrian chemical weapons can be traced to Saddam Hussein. Nevertheless, there is ample circumstantial evidence to take another look at the Iraqi-Syrian connection. If the Asad government falls, Syrian military files may shed light on the mystery of Saddam’s WMDs. The Syrian civil war may one day help to rewrite the history of the Iraq War."

 

Last edited by Contendahh
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

All those years the left pushed for war, BEFORE BUSH WAS EVEN IN OFFICE, and said there were WMD, and I do believe that there were, and now they want to act like they had no part in it? No part? It's all on them,

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And you believe that you have any credibility at all when you post that kind of undocumented, unexplicated, totally opinionated drivel: "Its all on them?"  Or maybe you consider Cheney, Wolfowitz, G.W. Bush, and the whole neocon warmongering  establishment to be the "left"??

So Conde, GWB was wrong when he said there were chemical weapons in Iraq? The thousands of dead Kurds died from "global warming" rather than Saddam's application of nerve gas?

The point of this thread and my post was to point out to you and the other Neanderthals that continue to berate the previous administration that there were and likely still are undiscovered caches of chemical weapons in Iraq which are now finding their way into the hands of people who have no qualms about using them.  The same types who if they get their hands on a nuclear bomb will not hesitate to place it in the center of Tel Aviv or New York City.  Yet still people like yourself will berate those who saw it coming and did something to try and prevent it.  They will be the same ones wringing their hands and gnashing their teeth when these fools accomplish their "sacred duties", and will ask why nothing was done to prevent it.

Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by Contendahh:
Originally Posted by Stanky:

The jihadist group bringing terror to Iraq overran a Saddam Hussein chemical weapons complex on Thursday, gaining access to disused stores of hundreds of tonnes of potentially deadly poisons including mustard gas and sarin.

 

Isis invaded the al-Muthanna mega-facility 60 miles north of Baghdad in a rapid takeover that the US government said was a matter of concern.

 

The facility was notorious in the 1980s and 1990s as the locus of Saddam’s industrial scale efforts to develop a chemical weapons development programme.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...complex-in-Iraq.html

 

Nope, no WMD's in Iraq!

_____

Old stuff--it was known years ago that there were stocks of degraded chemical weapons on hand in Iraq:

 

http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovi...06-701-munitions.pdf

 

And had you wished to  put a bit of balance and completeness into your ost, you could have noted this statement at the end by a U.S. expert familiar with the site:

 

"One US official told the Wall Street Journal yesterday that Isis fighters could be contaminated by the chemicals at the site.

'The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them,' the military officer said."

 

So the hunt for those game-changing, deadly mass quantities of WMDs goes on!.

_____________________________________________

The UN report doesn't 'splain where Iraq's newer binary weapons went. It appears the US was stuck with handling the leaky and still lethal older weapons while the newer stock went to Syria.

 

While the shelf life of nerve agents such as the sarin, one of the chemical weapons found in Iraq and recently used in Syria, is short, an undated CIA report estimated that the Iraqis had improved their sarin stocks by increasing the purity of the chemical components and building binary weapons. In binary weapons, the components of the nerve agent are not combined until the weapon is ready to be used. This could make the shelf life of the weapon “irrelevant” and allow it to be stored for years before use. This means that if Iraqi stockpiles were transferred to Syria prior to 2003 they could still be lethal.

http://www.examiner.com/articl...addam-s-missing-wmds

 

Only one binary weapon was found, but only because terrorists tried to make use of it as an improvised weapon and with no rotation, there was little mixing of chemicals.

******************************************************** 

And the conclusion of the article you selectively pasted from (bold emphasis added for obvious reasons):

 

"As yet there is no conclusive proof that Syrian chemical weapons can be traced to Saddam Hussein. Nevertheless, there is ample circumstantial evidence to take another look at the Iraqi-Syrian connection. If the Asad government falls, Syrian military files may shed light on the mystery of Saddam’s WMDs. The Syrian civil war may one day help to rewrite the history of the Iraq War."

 

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It might be just another case of Obama hiring idiots for posts in his administration, but his DNI James Clapper also believes that Syria received WMD from Iraq. Clapper based that assumption on the number of convoys of trucks leaving Iraq for Syria. It would have helped if the Clinton administration had not destroyed the CIA's Iraqi operations in 1995 such that someone might have gotten a peek inside those trucks.

 

I might also note that in December of 2002 that Ariel Sharon was warning that the US was too slow, Israeli intelligence indicated that Iraqi WMD's had gone to Syria.

 

In the American justice system, I suspect that all the circumstantial evidence from Iraqi former generals and intelligence agencies would at least be enough for an arrest.

Last edited by Stanky
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

No, I consider the lefties that stood and made speeches pushing for the war "the left". Undocumented, unexplicated, totally opinionated?  Dang, just how deep in denial are you anyway??

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YOU are deep in delusion.  Posting about the decision to invade Iraq, YOU posted this idiotic statement:

 

" It's all on them"

 

The:"them," in the context of your statement could not mean anyone other then  the "left."

 

By your totally irrational reckoning, it was solely the "left" which is responsible for the decision to invade Iraq. Can anything be more delusional than that?  By your delusional reckoning, G.W. Bush (Commander in Chief,) Donald Rumsfeld (Secretary of Defense) and D ick Cheney (Vice President and chief resident warmonger) had NOTHING to do with the decision to invade Iraq. By your reckoning, and to borrow from your phrasing, "It's none on them."

 

Now try hard and maybe you can find some specious way to deny what is glaringly, obviously irrational in that fatuous, absurdly absolutist statement of yours.

 

Last edited by Contendahh
Originally Posted by Contendahh:

Stanky, I can count trucks out on the highway all day long without any knowing what is in them.

 

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And sand dunes just another beach

 

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/ai...r/mig25/pics03.shtml

 

From Stanky's preceding post:

 

It would have helped if the Clinton administration had not destroyed the CIA's Iraqi operations in 1995 such that someone might have gotten a peek inside those trucks.

 

Last edited by budsfarm
Originally Posted by Contendahh:

Stanky, I can count trucks out on the highway all day long without any knowing what is in them.

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You wouldn't have counted them for very long if those convoys had WMD. Some fellow with an Ak would arrange a long sleep for you. Still no one has accounted for the newer longer lasting binary weapons.

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