Poll: Death Penalty for Miami?

if the NCAA doesn't show it's authority soon, it might as well be history...

the NCAA has been losing it's influence for the past few years...

i, personally, think college athletes should receive some form of stipend.

think about how much money those kids make for the universities where they play!

Coaches and the people that give this stuff to the kids should be the ones fined AND some sort of charges filed against those who allow this. If coaches get those fat paychecks cut and the "Boosters" get put in jail, This would all but stop.  Dont hurt the kids playing now for what others did a few years ago. Go after the money of these people and watch them run away. state or feds should have the right to charge those for breaking NCAA rules.

University athletic  programs are inherently vulnerable to the kinds of things that reportedly went on at Miami, for two principal reasons:

1) Boosters, like the filthy rich clown (and jailbird)  who is at the heart of this mess are all but impossible to control.  Universities are held accountable and punishable for the illicit actions of these nefarious jerks, even though there is no practical way for them to pre-emptively regulate such actions.  

2) Many of the athletes recruited for university athletic programs are from poor families that can offer them little financial support.  They are thrown in with thousands of other students from much more financially secure families, who are provided with fashionable clothing, cars, ample spending money and other benefits that the athlete from an underprivileged background is unable to secure. The temptation to accept some of these emoluments from boosters is all but impossible for some of these kids to resist.

And yes, I know that the athlete from an impoverished home situation is very fortunate indeed to have his room, books, tuition and food furnished by the university and should be thankful for that, and for the opportunity (albeit one that very few will realize) of going on to really big bucks as a professional athlete.  But those big bucks, even if they ultimately come, will not help offset the disparities in daily quality of life between that athlete and the sons and daughters of privilege.

Now the question:  Just how can these issues be systematically addressed and resolved?

I went to a major university 30 years ago.

It has always been common knowledge that high profile athletes get compensated for playing.  Why keep pretending?

Let the people with money loose and stop making liars of players and coaches.  Let the NFL contribute tp the free farm team program they have enjoyed. 

If the NCAA gives Miami the death penalty it would be a suprise to me. If it is proven that all of the alligations are true, my best bet would be massive schlorship cuts and tv plus bowl bans for at least two years. I guess that would be the next worse thing to the death penalty.

Kind of off topic, but if Miami ends up getting the death penalty, I wonder if the resulting weaker ACC would make it more likely for a school like FSU, Clemson, or Virginia Tech to make the jump to the SEC along with Texas A&M.  VT and A&M would be pretty much ideal as far as expanding TV markets, but there are plenty of ACC schools (or maybe even West Virginia from the Big East) that the SEC could potentially poach to keep the divisions even if A&M joins.  I would like that a lot better than taking another Big 12 school and moving Alabama and Auburn to the East, because I think that would make the East way too strong.

The allegations, if true, deserve the death penalty. If it was a smaller school, the football program would be gone. Since it's a major program and a money maker, they'll get a slap on the wrist.

If this booster is doing 20 years and ratting out the whole world to get out early, how worthy of belief is he? You are not gonna give the school the death penalty based on this informants testimony! He would likely talk about his mother if you gave him the chance. He is doing the old "talk and walk" but that does'nt make him credible.

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The NCAA has been investigating the matter  for 5 months. If there had been nothing to it, it would seem that they could have wrapped it up by now.

Contendah: Let's hope that there is more to this case than this rats "motivated" testimony!

Anyone who thinks that all the NCAA has is this one guy's word should click over to Yahoo and look through all the corroborating sources and evidence they dug up.  Here's the page on Devin Hester, for example, and the links to everyone else alleged to have been involved are on the right side of the page.  Besides providing improper benefits, it's pretty clearly established that he induced Miami players to sign with the sports agency he co-owned.  Also keep in mind that NCAA enforcement isn't a courtroom and that the burden of proof isn't the same.  I don't think there's any question in the NCAA investigators' minds that some serious violations were going on, so the penalty that Miami ultimately receives will likely come down to how much the investigators can prove that the coaches and administrators knew about what was going on,

Click it and most of what you see is: One source this, one source that! Remember the old Wendy's commercials? Where's the beef? Out of this they are entertaining the death penalty? Not draconian at all!

Definitely would not rely on the word of this crook alone. He obviously has an axe to grind with Miami. I would like to know who Yahoo's sources were other than Shipiro.

NCAA violations are exposed by people with an axe to grind all the time.  Phil Fulmer wasn't exactly a neutral party in the Albert Means scandal, and Lloyd Lake sued Reggie Bush because Bush didn't pay him back for all the gifts he received while he was still playing for USC.  Yes, sometimes scandals are exposed by a reporter or by someone involved coming clean, but other times it's clearly by someone looking to bring down a program or individual.  Just because Shapiro has an axe to grind doesn't mean he's lying, and if he is, it's an incredibly elaborate lie with all those pictures, phone records, and credit card statements.

Your right about people with an agenda towards certain people and universities. That in my opinion, makes the NCAA more accountable in their investigation. People with an axe to grind may indeed have credible information but also may add falsehoods to there story or outright lie about others.  

Like I said, it will probably come down to how much the coaches and administrators knew, which is a harder thing to prove than just that violations occurred.  But the NCAA has punished programs in the past for what the coaches should have known whether they can prove they knew or not, and it seems pretty clear to me that there was what the NCAA calls a "lack of institutional control" at Miami on a larger scale than just about anything since SMU.