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A few months ago I felt led to put together a post rapture file for my unsaved lovd ones which is on my computer here. My daughter knows that if she don't come to Christ before we go that she is to get this file and share it with everyone. I'm working on a big list of names and contact info to put in the computer file. Anyway today I just felt very strongly that not only should I remind her of it, but to witness to her for the millionth time and give her complete instructions on what to do as soon as we are gone. I even went so far as to tell her as soon as we are gone that she is to go to a house that belongs to a friend since he will be gone too. It is WAY off the grid. I'm going to talk to him about it tomorrow and get directions. He loves my daughter like his own granddaughter so I know it will be fine since all of his loved ones are going too.

I gave her the pin number to my atm and credit cards. I told her to make sure that she plants as big a garden as she can and learn to hunt and can food. Not to worry about the kids because they will be with mamaw. I putted instructions in the file about how to start the generator, where her Daddy's guns are and how to load them, where the spare car and truck keys are, etc., etc., etc.

The question I have for th rest of you heathens is ARE YOU READY? Obama is taking office in just a few days so you DONT HAVE MUCH TIME! BELIEVE!
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Originally posted by SciPhillis:
A few months ago I felt led to put together a post rapture file for my unsaved lovd ones which is on my computer here. My daughter knows that if she don't come to Christ before we go that she is to get this file and share it with everyone. I'm working on a big list of names and contact info to put in the computer file. Anyway today I just felt very strongly that not only should I remind her of it, but to witness to her for the millionth time and give her complete instructions on what to do as soon as we are gone. I even went so far as to tell her as soon as we are gone that she is to go to a house that belongs to a friend since he will be gone too. It is WAY off the grid. I'm going to talk to him about it tomorrow and get directions. He loves my daughter like his own granddaughter so I know it will be fine since all of his loved ones are going too.

I gave her the pin number to my atm and credit cards. I told her to make sure that she plants as big a garden as she can and learn to hunt and can food. Not to worry about the kids because they will be with mamaw. I putted instructions in the file about how to start the generator, where her Daddy's guns are and how to load them, where the spare car and truck keys are, etc., etc., etc.

The question I have for th rest of you heathens is ARE YOU READY? Obama is taking office in just a few days so you DONT HAVE MUCH TIME! BELIEVE!



You got guns? Sign me up!!
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Originally posted by SciPhillis:
A few months ago I felt led to put together a post rapture file for my unsaved lovd ones which is on my computer here. My daughter knows that if she don't come to Christ before we go that she is to get this file and share it with everyone. I'm working on a big list of names and contact info to put in the computer file. Anyway today I just felt very strongly that not only should I remind her of it, but to witness to her for the millionth time and give her complete instructions on what to do as soon as we are gone. I even went so far as to tell her as soon as we are gone that she is to go to a house that belongs to a friend since he will be gone too. It is WAY off the grid. I'm going to talk to him about it tomorrow and get directions. He loves my daughter like his own granddaughter so I know it will be fine since all of his loved ones are going too.

I gave her the pin number to my atm and credit cards. I told her to make sure that she plants as big a garden as she can and learn to hunt and can food. Not to worry about the kids because they will be with mamaw. I putted instructions in the file about how to start the generator, where her Daddy's guns are and how to load them, where the spare car and truck keys are, etc., etc., etc.

The question I have for th rest of you heathens is ARE YOU READY? Obama is taking office in just a few days so you DONT HAVE MUCH TIME! BELIEVE!


Everyone knows that you are coming on here just to insult and make fun of christians and conservatives so your really not doing any good besides not being funny.You would make a better impression by trying logical discourse.Naming your self after a STD does you no good either or are you simply alerting everyone of your illness?
I like making fun of the ridiculousness of christianity as much as the next atheist but dang - sciphill takes the cake. Either she is one really really dumb woman or one heck of a jokester.

Either way, I think I remember hearing about some nut bag with a website for the family members that are left behind during the rapture.

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Maybe the wacko that made this website and the thousands of people signed up to it are equally as dumb as sciphil?

Who knows - but it sure is funny.
Then Ron's a big old fibber.Wink Found in 24th chapter of Matthew:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man...they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

That's just yet another fake trying to make a buck. Who was that guy who wrote "88 reasons Christ will return in 1988". Then when it didn't happen, the following year he wrote "89 reasons Christ will return in 1989". People actually bought it. Amazing.
Oh, Lordy no! My hair won't be grown back until May at the earliest! I don't want Jesus to see me bald and with no little curly hair on my delicate male regions!

All that chemo and I might be cured and bald still? NOT fair!

Does dude have a date? Will it be warm weather? I plan on going to the Gulf as soon as it warms. I want a tan to go out in style.

Praise you Brother Winehouse, I would have to start paying back my grad school loans soon! I do not really want to do that, to be honest. I think it ought to be my personal "stimulus" plan, and a new hardwood floor. Maybe a new used Volvo, too -- and a runt rust Doberman and brown Lab so I can breed the elusive Doberdor. The Volvo can be a sedan or a convertible. We would hate to be choosy in our personal stimulus plan. I got the new desktop with the 17" flat screen today, so ignore the lap top request.
Hi Neal,

We know you do not believe in the Rapture, the Tribulation, nor the Millennial Kingdom. Please tell us your view of what will happen in the End Times.

And, please don't use the lame excuse that you don't know -- or that you could care less about prophecy (30+% of the Bible). Either you do know what will happen -- or you have no grounds to support your claim that we are wrong.

We are waiting to hear your views on the End Times.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Here are my grounds for rejection: this is just crazy talk, pure and simple. Up there with flying monkeys, pardon, talking snakes, or a 6000 year old earth when we have art that is 25,000 years old in caves in France and Spain.

Calvin said that chialism was too silly to deserve refutation -- the one decent thing to my knowledge thing that old verbose murderer ever wrote or said!
SciPhillis,

You should be very proud of having such a smart daughter. How she could have turned out so well while being raised by a crazy like you is anybody's guess, but I really don't think she'll need all those instructions. She sounds like the kind who can figure out things for herself quite well. Don't worry about her.
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Ron has written much on the subject, and you can get a free book. I just received mine in the mail, no joke.


Great! I just ordered one, too. I also ordered his latest one that is evidently an updated version of the one that was supposed to, umm, expire last year.

After I read the book I will, of course, inform all my friends here of the updated Date of Doom.
This is a great example for Christians of not believing everything you hear, regardless of where you hear it or who you hear it from.

Edgar C. Whisenant - "88 Reasons Christ Will Return in 1988, 1989, 1993, etc., basically as long as I can find people who will buy these things.

The article says "Eventually, 300,000 copies of 88 Reasons were mailed free of charge to ministers across America, and 4.5 million copies were sold in bookstores and elsewhere...Whisenant continued to issue various Rapture predictions through 1997, but gathered little attention."
Hi Neal,

Once again, you tell us, "Here are my grounds for rejection: this is just crazy talk, pure and simple. Up there with flying monkeys, pardon, talking snakes, or a 6000 year old earth when we have art that is 25,000 years old in caves in France and Spain. Calvin said that chialism was too silly to deserve refutation -- the one decent thing to my knowledge thing that old verbose murderer ever wrote or said!"

Earlier, playing the Devil's Advocate, I told you, "Okay, I will agree with you if you can tell me what you believe about the End Time events." And, once again, you just say, "I don't know -- but, I don't believe what you say!"

Neal, you are like the six year old girl who, when mom tells her to do something, replies, "I can't!" And, when mom asks, "Why not?" -- all you can say is, "Because!"

Now, Neal, I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt -- and assume that you are more intelligent than a six year old girl. Therefore, when you tell us that something is not true -- you MUST be saying that because YOU know what is true.

So, one more time -- Neal, what are your Biblical views of the End Times? Do you believe there will be an End Time? If so, then what, in your educated opinion, will happen during the End Times?

A simple question -- especially for one who so adamantly denies the Rapture, the Tribulation, and the Millennial Kingdom. So, my Friend, lay it on us! What is your view of the End Times?

Of course, you will not answer -- for you cannot.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Hi Silly,

Thank you for changing your posting name. It is much easier to relate to you with this name. Hey, our adversaries call us much worse than silly -- and, who does not want to be a little "silly" once in a while?

My wife jokingly asks me, "When are you going to grow up?" -- because I love to play with the little kiddies at church and Bible study. And, I always tell her, "God willing -- never!"

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Why Bill? Because it is nothing but a fable of recent manufacture! It is a lie! It is not true! It's a lie. Ergo, you spread lies like you do verbal manure.

Prove your Rapturology, please, if you can, sir. I mean by standard methodology, no "interpretation" no "this word used to mean this but its meaning changed," and the other sophomoric games you lot play.

Common sense says this is just crazy talk! That means you repeat crazy talk. Does that follow that you are crazy? I need to draw a Venn diagram for that one.
OK, that's it. I'm writing a book about the end of the world and selling it on Amazon. I need the money.

While I have my personal faith I do not worry about the rapture or even if there will be a rapture. It wouldn't change a thing about my faith and if I am following my faith it won't matter. But it is a good way to make some cash.

Time to call up the old money tree picture again. I found a different variation. Wait, is that the rapture behind the tree?

Only until May, only until May! My Chinese doctor in Huntspatch said last week after my labs and 2nd round, "Mr. Hoo, you ah look a won duh ah ful! You ah doing fantatic!"

My head is cold, though. I don't mind it, I usually slap on a ball cap most of the time anyhow, but I never realized how much sweat you get on your teeshirts without pit hair! Man, you women be nasty up in here with all that shaving!

It's just a whiff of nonHodgkins Lymphoma, Type B large cell, bilateral stage IV, but all that means is that the lymph nodes were visible and palpable to be state IV. In other words, when they find it you pretty much are Stage IV!

I already have a normal blood count and last labs they told me I could go to a store or church instead of staying home all the time! However that was Wednesday, and it is too cold for me to want to go out and I got a new XP SP2 computer with a 17" flat screen monitor this week off computershow dot com and it was only $295 with shipping, so I am right happy now!

Once it warms, I shall wear a bandanna like a biker, my oldest rattiest jeans and boots and pass myself off as a tough guy. I told several people I was in training for the Ultimate Fighter challenge in Vegas and was ready for the Octagon!

I kinda like being bald, my temples were already. Chemo is OK, actually, they give me an IV of liquid Benadryl and that knocks me out for 3 or 4 hours and an antinausea drip, too. It's the steroids the rest of the week I can't stand, no sleep for about 8 days, mouth and throat are like a diamond dust sandpaper went over them. Then I get to feeling better and it is time for another round :- (

I'm a stoic. Not much I can do except put my faith in the fickle wheel of fate and load my dice by using diplomates from UAB Medical School in Huntsville!

Some of those folks are obviously on their last legs. It seems more merciful to tell them to go to the Nayarit coast and give 'em a big ole bag of morphine ampules and a bunch of syringes.

I fear that my condition elicits no pity from the casual observer at all. I have lost over 10 lbs, though and I don't like that one bit.

Heck! Patrick Stewart and Stewart Griffin are both bald! And all the kewl trekkies and Family Guy friends love them, eh?

p.s. The Rapture is still not worth a thimble of warm spit, much less worrying about, discussing, or fearing, or studying.
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Then Ron's a big old fibber.Wink Found in 24th chapter of Matthew:

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man...they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man."

That's just yet another fake trying to make a buck. Who was that guy who wrote "88 reasons Christ will return in 1988". Then when it didn't happen, the following year he wrote "89 reasons Christ will return in 1989". People actually bought it. Amazing.


Joy, are you discounting his experiences with God?

Are you saying that God did not speak to him?

This guy had plenty of money and a comfy position, so why would extend himself and say such things?

Regards
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Joy, are you discounting his experiences with God?

Are you saying that God did not speak to him?

This guy had plenty of money and a comfy position, so why would extend himself and say such things?


I'm discounting his experiences. What he claims goes against scripture which Joy posted, so it's clear God did not speak to him.

He's made his money and has his comfy position by scamming people, I see him as no different than Madoff. Both live comfortably by ripping off others.
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Do you have proof that God didn't communicate with him?

I have proof that "60 Minutes" came on last week. It's recorded, you can see it for yourself.

I offer proof that "Good Morning America" will air again. Just tune in.

Proof for god speaking between anyone's ears? Impossible, and an illogical level of evidence.


DF
Paul's best definition is "the evidence of things not seen." That means that it is per se metaphysical.

One cannot see God, taste Him or Her (let us not discount iterations which are unknown to us by revelation) or touch the Almighty.

I really wonder at times as I age if people do not have a completely different view of a Platonic "form" of God than do I? Much as I wonder if what I see as red is my mother's "red" or not.

We can never know.

Faith in God answers many questions for me, it is comforting, it is part of my social conditioning. I chose it once an adult, though, as do all adults.

Perhaps that and Prince Hamlet's question are the two that all struggle with answering. One would be forced to answer only one, viz., "Be", to continue to exist by one's own volition, however.

Some say all metaphysics are a bunch of hooey, I deny this, as the very question of the continuing of being or non-self-erasure faces us continually, conscious or not.

This is not the case of belief in a deity or deities, however. Generations were raised to laugh at the thought of deistic belief in Eurasia, both by force and society. It does not appear to have worked. People can become believers, people can have faith and others doubt about the veracity and be uncertain. That is probably why three is a mystical number in most societies (Yes, no, and in the center, maybe).

No, for those who wish a rational ascertainable with certainty answer to the existence of a deity/ies, this will never be forthcoming. Nor will I know if my mother's red is the same as mine.
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Why Bill? Because it is nothing but a fable of recent manufacture! It is a lie! It is not true! It's a lie. Ergo, you spread lies like you do verbal manure.

Prove your Rapturology, please, if you can, sir. I mean by standard methodology, no "interpretation" no "this word used to mean this but its meaning changed," and the other sophomoric games you lot play.

Common sense says this is just crazy talk! That means you repeat crazy talk. Does that follow that you are crazy? I need to draw a Venn diagram for that one.

Hi Neal,

You continue to evade and dance around -- and, all you have given me is, "Because!"

I am not asking you to prove anything -- just tell us what YOU believe about the End Times. You tell me that I, and all evangelicals, are wrong because we believe in a PreTribulation Rapture. You tell us we are wrong to believe in a Tribulation. You tell us we are wrong to believe in the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ.

Okay. Let's say those beliefs are not right. What, according to you, is right? Is Jesus Christ going to return to earth? Is He going to defeat the Antichrist and Satan? Is there going to be a battle of Armageddon?

What do you, Neal, believe will happen during the End Times? Do you believe there will be an End Times?

I know what the Bible teaches; but, what do you believe?

I am sincerely interested to know your beliefs. Just telling people that what they believe is wrong -- is only stating your opinion. But, how can you say that something is wrong; if you have no idea what is right?

Please tell me where the chart below is wrong.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Yes, there will be an "end times." The sun in a few billions of years will engulf the inner planets and Terra shall be burnt to a crisp.

Yes, I do believe that you are crazy. I actually do. I also believe that you need either psychotropics or Viagra or to come out of the closet and to get right with God.

I truly believe the above.

I also know that you are ignorant and basically unlearned through no fault of your own save laziness and your choosing to not progress in your knowledge of theology beyond websites and magazines.

I truly believe the above. I also believe in all my heart that you are one silly old codger who is also one of the most vain and repugnant people I am ever encountered, and thankfully that is at the distance of the intergoogles and not in person.

I believe you are a heretic, a judgmental man, and a bad writer, and that your silly website run by that quack in NC was not a "column" as commonly defined, rather a blog which gave you space to cut and paste and lie.

Your obsession with the poor gays is astonishing. What have they ever done to you? Why do you hate the Episcopal Church? We gave you your KJV Bible, didn't we? We wrote the prayer book that I bet your lot use for weddings, you know, "Dearly beloved we are gathered here today . . . ."

I reject Satan and all his pomps, as I swore when confirmed and every Easter, and I likewise reject your twisted view of Christianity and creation and eternity.

It is not too late for you Bill, but the sun is the same in a relative way, and your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death as Pink Floyd sang. You need to repent and get right with God, man. Lose your vanity and become a new creation, reject your heresy and judgments and let the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church guide your life not some silly rot you have picked up along the way!

I am sorry if I offend you, but I am tired of your heckfire and darnation upon everyone who does not toe your line. Your age is no excuse, in fact it compounds the problem. There is not an excuse I can think up to be less than frank with you when you spout garbage and expect us to lie at your feet waiting for the pat on the head for hollering "Amen," in reply.

I am sick and I don't need a lot of BS from some rotter in California who would be rounding up Catholics and the gays had he the chance. You refuse to catch the hint, so I was blunt.

In conclusion, learn to play pretty or sod off.

p.s. I do also truly believe that you are a closeted homosexual. No one straight could possibly be so obsessed with the topic were they not. I also believe that you are jealous of those of non-heresy riddled denominations with their power and history and money and beautiful edifices.

Good day and God have mercy on your soul, you need it.

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