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Romneycare is something Romney has been trying to distinguish from "Obamacare," but he has not done a very good job of it.  Romney is a creature of expediency.  When he thought that Massachusetts voters would support Romneycare, he gave it to them.  Now that the right wing propaganda machine has defamed "Obamacare," and the majority of Republican voters don't want it, he is weaseling and crawfishing in all kinds of ways to try to create distinctions between Romneycare and "Obamacare" such that his objections to the latter do not appear hypocritical. Lotsaluck, Mitt--intelligent voters can see through the silly rationales you are attempting to foist on them.

Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Romneycare is something Romney has been trying to distinguish from "Obamacare," but he has not done a very good job of it.  Romney is a creature of expediency.  When he thought that Massachusetts voters would support Romneycare, he gave it to them.  Now that the right wing propaganda machine has defamed "Obamacare," and the majority of Republican voters don't want it, he is weaseling and crawfishing in all kinds of ways to try to create distinctions between Romneycare and "Obamacare" such that his objections to the latter do not appear hypocritical. Lotsaluck, Mitt--intelligent voters can see through the silly rationales you are attempting to foist on them.

This one is easy upsida,

Romneycare is legal, Obamacare is not. I'm not saying Romneycare is a good thing and I'm

not saying Obamacare is a good thing either. Obamacare is just plain un-Constitutional. In the

Constitution  of the United States of America it gives the Federal Gov't certain enumerated

powers. In Article One Section Eight it does not give the Federal Gov't any authority to impose

a mandatory requirement  for citizens to have health care insurance. Again the Constitution is

ignored by the socialists.

 

Skippy

Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Romneycare is something Romney has been trying to distinguish from "Obamacare," but he has not done a very good job of it.  Romney is a creature of expediency.  When he thought that Massachusetts voters would support Romneycare, he gave it to them.  Now that the right wing propaganda machine has defamed "Obamacare," and the majority of Republican voters don't want it, he is weaseling and crawfishing in all kinds of ways to try to create distinctions between Romneycare and "Obamacare" such that his objections to the latter do not appear hypocritical. Lotsaluck, Mitt--intelligent voters can see through the silly rationales you are attempting to foist on them.

This one is easy upsida,

Romneycare is legal, Obamacare is not. I'm not saying Romneycare is a good thing and I'm

not saying Obamacare is a good thing either. Obamacare is just plain un-Constitutional. In the

Constitution  of the United States of America it gives the Federal Gov't certain enumerated

powers. In Article One Section Eight it does not give the Federal Gov't any authority to impose

a mandatory requirement  for citizens to have health care insurance. Again the Constitution is

ignored by the socialists.

 

Skippy

Not all that easy, Skippy. First off, it occurs to me that you are NOT the Supreme Court of this nation; the U.S. Supreme Court is, however.  Do not be overconfident as to how that court will rule on this issue. The same argument you make against national health insurance could have been made concerning Social Security, the official name of which is the "Federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance Program, which pays benefits from the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund"

 

So-o, Skippy, in Social Security we have an insurance program that is mandatory upon all--or virtually all (there are exceptions, as for the Amish)--workers and that mandatory insurance program has not been struck down by any federal court and is not going to be.  I think that the "Obamacare" program, another federal insurance program, has a pretty good chance for validation by the U.S. Supreme Court.  I might be wrong, but I am not oozing the kind of overconfidence you seem so comfortable with.  Think about it.

 

 

Originally Posted by upsidedehead:
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
Originally Posted by upsidedehead:

Romneycare is something Romney has been trying to distinguish from "Obamacare," but he has not done a very good job of it.  Romney is a creature of expediency.  When he thought that Massachusetts voters would support Romneycare, he gave it to them.  Now that the right wing propaganda machine has defamed "Obamacare," and the majority of Republican voters don't want it, he is weaseling and crawfishing in all kinds of ways to try to create distinctions between Romneycare and "Obamacare" such that his objections to the latter do not appear hypocritical. Lotsaluck, Mitt--intelligent voters can see through the silly rationales you are attempting to foist on them.

This one is easy upsida,

Romneycare is legal, Obamacare is not. I'm not saying Romneycare is a good thing and I'm

not saying Obamacare is a good thing either. Obamacare is just plain un-Constitutional. In the

Constitution  of the United States of America it gives the Federal Gov't certain enumerated

powers. In Article One Section Eight it does not give the Federal Gov't any authority to impose

a mandatory requirement  for citizens to have health care insurance. Again the Constitution is

ignored by the socialists.

 

Skippy

Not all that easy, Skippy. First off, it occurs to me that you are NOT the Supreme Court of this nation; the U.S. Supreme Court is, however.  Do not be overconfident as to how that court will rule on this issue. The same argument you make against national health insurance could have been made concerning Social Security, the official name of which is the "Federal Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance Program, which pays benefits from the Federal Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund"

 

So-o, Skippy, in Social Security we have an insurance program that is mandatory upon all--or virtually all (there are exceptions, as for the Amish)--workers and that mandatory insurance program has not been struck down by any federal court and is not going to be.  I think that the "Obamacare" program, another federal insurance program, has a pretty good chance for validation by the U.S. Supreme Court.  I might be wrong, but I am not oozing the kind of overconfidence you seem so comfortable with.  Think about it.

 

 

The Courts are not supposed to make law, they are supposed to inforce the law. The Supreme

Court is wrong. The Constitution no where gives anywhere in the Fed. Gov't's enumerated

powers the right to create Social Security let alone Obamacare. Artical One Section Eight.

Read it. You'll be enlightened. On the other hand never mind I doubt you can understand

what freedom is.The Socialist courts have been making it up as they go.

I guess the unions and certain states will be like the Amish and won't have to play in the

Obamacare Game. Hopefully we kick you guys out of power soon. God Bless America.

 

Skippy

 

http://www.theonion.com/articl...-to-help-unin,20097/

 

BELMONT, MA—Though Mitt Romney is considered to be a frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, the national spotlight has forced him to repeatedly confront a major skeleton in his political closet: that as governor of Massachusetts he once tried to help poor, uninsured sick people.

Romney, who signed the state's 2006 health care reform act, has said he "deeply regrets" giving people in poor physical and mental health the opportunity to seek medical attention, admitting that helping very sick people get better remains a dark cloud hovering over his political career, and his biggest obstacle to becoming president of the United States of America.

"Every day I am haunted by the fact that I gave impoverished Massachusetts citizens a chance to receive health care," Romney told reporters Wednesday, adding that he feels ashamed whenever he looks back at how he forged bipartisan support to help uninsured Americans afford medicine to cure their illnesses. "I'm only human, and I've made mistakes. None bigger, of course, than helping cancer patients receive chemotherapy treatments and making sure that those suffering from pediatric AIDS could obtain medications, but that's my cross to bear."

"My hope is that Republican voters will one day forgive me for making it easier for sick people—especially low-income sick people—to go to the hospital and see a doctor," Romney added. "It was wrong, and I'm sorry."

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Hey skippy,

What law school did you graduate fromWherever it was, you received a poor education in Constitutional law.

Hey Dork,

any fool that can read and will. Can read in the Constitution Artical One Section Eight.

The Enumerated powers of the US Federal Gov't. Nothing in this gives the Federal Gov't

the power to force anyone to purchase health insurance or pay in to SS as far as that goes.

If you find that invisable power please, tell us which clause. It's not there. If you want an

Amendment go thru the process. Please show me.

 

Your Pal Skippy

 

Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Hey skippy,

What law school did you graduate fromWherever it was, you received a poor education in Constitutional law.

Hey Dork,

any fool that can read and will. Can read in the Constitution Artical One Section Eight.

The Enumerated powers of the US Federal Gov't. Nothing in this gives the Federal Gov't

the power to force anyone to purchase health insurance or pay in to SS as far as that goes.

If you find that invisable power please, tell us which clause. It's not there. If you want an

Amendment go thru the process. Please show me.

 

Your Pal Skippy

 

Sorry, but the you are just wrong. And, again, have you no spell check?

YOriginally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Hey skippy,

What law school did you graduate fromWherever it was, you received a poor education in Constitutional law.

Hey Dork,

any fool that can read and will. Can read in the Constitution Artical One Section Eight.

The Enumerated powers of the US Federal Gov't. Nothing in this gives the Federal Gov't

the power to force anyone to purchase health insurance or pay in to SS as far as that goes.

If you find that invisable power please, tell us which clause. It's not there. If you want an

Amendment go thru the process. Please show me.

 

Your Pal Skippy

 

Sorry, but the you are just wrong. And, again, have you no spell check?

You can't show me anything in the Constitution that gives the Federal Gov't. any

power to inact Obamacare, let alone SS, Medicare, whatevercare. It isn't there.

It will never be there without an Amendment to the Constitution. If you ever read

it you would know. Hopefully the Supreme Court will not do as the lower courts

continue to do, make up law as the go. I'm still waiting for the Artical, Section and

lines that you read these powers for the Fed. Gov't. . Because I know you don't know

it, and your too lazy to look it up, plus you won't look it up because your afraid I'm

right.  Don't need to be a law school graduate to understand this.

 

          U.S. Constitution Artical One

 

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, ****nals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

         

Any Questions,

Skippy         

Last edited by skippy delepepper
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
YOriginally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Hey skippy,

What law school did you graduate fromWherever it was, you received a poor education in Constitutional law.

Hey Dork,

any fool that can read and will. Can read in the Constitution Artical One Section Eight.

The Enumerated powers of the US Federal Gov't. Nothing in this gives the Federal Gov't

the power to force anyone to purchase health insurance or pay in to SS as far as that goes.

If you find that invisable power please, tell us which clause. It's not there. If you want an

Amendment go thru the process. Please show me.

 

Your Pal Skippy

 

Sorry, but the you are just wrong. And, again, have you no spell check?

You can't show me anything in the Constitution that gives the Federal Gov't. any

power to inact Obamacare, let alone SS, Medicare, whatevercare. It isn't there.

It will never be there without an Amendment to the Constitution. If you ever read

it you would know. Hopefully the Supreme Court will not do as the lower courts

continue to do, make up law as the go. I'm still waiting for the Artical, Section and

lines that you read these powers for the Fed. Gov't. . Because I know you don't know

it, and your too lazy to look it up, plus you won't look it up because your afraid I'm

right.  Don't need to be a law school graduate to understand this.

 

          U.S. Constitution Artical One

 

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, ****nals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

         

Any Questions,

Skippy         

Yes, when are you going to seek the psychiatric help that you so desperately need?

Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Thanks to his one nod and ones that did the actual work. Most of all took the risks.

Go Navy Seals Team #6!

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Riiiight Sheldon....

Originally Posted by marksw59:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Riiiight Sheldon....

Who is Sheldon?

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by marksw59:
Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Riiiight Sheldon....

Who is Sheldon?

 

Jim parsons, aka "Sheldon", or are you actually clueless and don't realize what picture is being used for your avatar?

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Originally Posted by ferrellj:

Skippy, you're wasting your time arguing with that clown jimi. All you will get from him are one liners that usually make no sense. He lacks the intelligence needed to make a valid argument about anything.

And calling me a clown is a valid argument? In what universe?Perhaps, the one in which an avatar that borders on treason is an admirable thing? You might want to change "Fail" to "Mission Accomplished"!

Just calling it like I see it. I think there's more than mission required to a good president. Right now he's 1 for about 50.

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