So much for man-made global warming

Your hatred of Al Gore must have prevented you from listening to his predictions.

Southeast to be slightly cooler and wetter than usual

West to be hotter and dryer than usual.

Exactly what we are getting now.

And BTW, the North Pole is now , for the second year in a row, and for the first time in recorded history , a lake.

I have to say if Al Gore truly believed in the harm of man made global warming he would change his ways like he want us to.  He flies around in private jets and has several homes one over 10000 sf and the other "think he lost it in the divorce" a 9 million dollar estate in CA. When he is living in a average 3br 3 ba home and flying on the airlines like the rest of us to save the environment I will take notice. Sadly like most of our elected officials demos and repubs they want the rules only to apply to us. 

seeweed, mankind does not cause the earth to warm no more than it causes it to cool. If warming was caused by our coal plants, freon, auto exhaust, etc., how do you explain the warming trends between previous ice ages??? Walk outside and look up. See that giant, bright ball of burning gas? That is called the Sun, it is the star that provides heat energy to our solar system. Al Gore is an idiot, he did not invent the internet, although he did invent man made global warming and has become stinking rich because of gullible liberals and other misinformed individuals such as you.

That's kind of like arguing that drunk driving can't kill people because you knew someone who died from cancer, once.

Got any better arguments?

Aeneas, do you think humans, rather than the Sun, determine the temperature of our planet?

The sun is the main energy source affecting our temperatures, I'm not disputing that.

What you're denying is that it's necessary to consider several other factors (including greenhouse gases, reflectivity of the surface, earth's orbit, and the tilt of earth's axis) to predict what the temperature will be. Two of those we actually have some small influence on, and for at least one of those two we have a measurable impact.

I'm not one of those alarmists screaming that we're going to wipe out civilization within the next generation, but at the same time anyone who claims we can't have any effect is just burying their head in the sand.

Bushmaster, which planet do you plan to move to after this one becomes unsuitable ? Maybe we need to start signing up ?

In the end, the Earth will be ok. It may kick us off as it has done so many species in the past, but Earth will remain, rebuild, and replenish itself, possibly with a more intelligent species that will not cut down all the rain forest, and pump poisons into our rivers and atmosphere.

Aeneas, you are almost right about one thing-we have some small influence on two factors. Insignificant would be the correct term. Now if we could figure out how to prevent volcanic erruptions, we might could help out old Mother Earth a little more.

Seeweed, what do you want to do next, ban oxygen?

 and pump poisons into our rivers and atmosphere.

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Like al gore and his zinc mines did??

An old prayer:

"Lord give me the strength to change the things I can, the ability to accept the things I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference"

We can't do much about volcanoes , but we can change some other ways we are destroying ourselves , quit cutting down the rain forest - or in this country quit clear cutting, and manage our forest in a sustainable way (and we do have some rain forest in this country), and start the phaseout of heavy dependence on fossil fuels, primarily coal.

In case you missed it :

http://www.timesdaily.com/arch...4c-892fcc5860ad.html

And your last question was an insult to anyone with the ability to think. I'm sorry you don't seem to fit that category.

The 16 year stall was  not predicted in the 20 or so computer models.  Great Britain is supposed to be under water by now.  Didn't see little prince George with gills and flippers.

Nor, have I read of an explanation why other planets had global warming at the same time.  Firengis?

If one examines proxies for solar radiance (Mankind has not been able to measure directly the amount of sunlight the earth receives until recent times.), one can see that probably the primary reason for the warming temperatures is the sun.

First of all, there is sunspot activity:

  http://www.aip.org/history/climate/xsolar.htm.

Then there are radioactive isotopes that are produce in the upper atmosphere like Carbon-14:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F..._activity_labels.svg

That said, perhaps mankind has been effecting the climate at the fringes. CO2 might be a greenhouse gas, but so is water vapor which has a stronger effect. We might be worrying about the wrong component coming out of our exhaust pipes and all those dams and irrigation projects in deserts might be of more concern.

Conservative rightwing teebeggers have never understood the need for scientific inquiry. Global warming is a subject to them that has some connection with abortion and their horror for sex. They remind me of a herd of cows in a field. They just point their azzes in one direction and gaze in the opposite. If ask why they simply look around and bawl at the gallery.

Rain forest, another term fabricated by the left to replace an existing term that doesn't sound touchy-feely enough. JUNGLE, call them jungles. Unfortunately for your left wing agenda, there are more trees in this country today than there were 100 years ago.

http://ecopreservationsociety....0-years-ago-its-true

QD, it seems to me that you are the one that is ignoring scientific evidence.

Also, modesty is not the same as being afraid of sex. But when your idols are the likes of Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Eliot Spitzer, John Edwards, etc., I guess you just have a bit of sexual deviance in you.

p.s. Don't laugh so hard at your poor attempt at humor, it wasn't that funny.

"Insignificant" is pretty far from the truth. The energy input from the sun is why the temperature is typically around 290K instead of absolute zero. Our CO2 output from oil use alone accounts for a tiny fraction of the total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, but that's enough to shift global temperatures by a couple of degrees.

Yes, I'm aware that water is also an important greenhouse gas, but saying it makes the CO2 irrelevant is like saying it's useless to roll down your car windows on a summer day because the roof is holding in more heat.

POP I know more about science than Albert Einstein. lol

I like women if that is what you mean by "deviant".  you pubs might ought to try it. lol 

Global warming is happening.  Don't listen to fox or cnn, look up the heating and cooling degree days for the last 20 years.  It shows a warming trend.  It does not  tell what is causing it.  

Something else, Al Gore did not say "I invented the internet"  If you maintain that he did, you are just another case of fox brain washing.  Do some independent research, find out what he said.