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“The court, we caution, endorses no particular view of the complicated issues related to carbon-dioxide emissions and climate change,” reads the 8-0 decision, delivered by the court’s acclaimed liberal, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

 

The court decision noted that the Environmental Protection Agency itself had “Acknowledg[ed] that not all scientists agreed on the causes and consequences of the rise in global temperatures,” before suggesting readers consult “views opposing” the conventional wisdom. Specifically, the justices’ recommended reading was a superb profile of Princeton’s Freeman Dyson, perhaps America’s most respected scientist, written in the New York Times Magazine, March 29, 2009.

 

Freeman, an unabashed skeptic, believes that carbon dioxide, rather than being harmful, is both necessary and desirable, arguing that “increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.”


http://opinion.financialpost.c...on-supreme-skeptics/

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Climate doesn’t kill people, weather does.

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Obama and his watermelon environmentalists (green on the outside and red on the inside) just had the gauntlet thrown down.  They can't even count on the liberals in the court to ignore facts over junk science.

 

The EPA will do their best to keep out of the courts. If the House doesn't cut their funding severely, time to replace a few members.

Whatever position you might take on global climate change-whether agreeing with Dyson or not--the man is a most intriguing person, one of the most brilliant scientists not only in the modern era, but probably one of the most brilliant in the history of the world!  A truly amazing person. The New York Times article referenced above can be read at this link:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...azine/29Dyson-t.html

My goodness.  The mental gymnastics GW deniers must make to justify their conspiracy theories is just fun to watch.

What the Supremes said is this:

We address in this opinion the question whether the

plaintiffs (several States, the city of New York, and three
private land trusts) can maintain federal common law
public nuisance claims against carbon-dioxide emitters
(four private power companies and the federal Tennessee
Valley Authority). As relief, the plaintiffs ask for a decree
setting carbon-dioxide emissions for each defendant at an
initial cap, to be further reduced annually. The Clean Air
Act and the Environmental Protection Agency action the
Act authorizes, we hold, displace the claims the plaintiffs
seek to pursue"

 

Translated: States wanted to pursue caps on CO2 emissions at their own thresholds.  The Supremes rules that the EPA had that authority, not the states.  

The Supremes made it clear that their opinion should not be construed to either lends support for or against AGW.  It is simply a matter of interpreting case law. 

"My goodness.  The mental gymnastics GW deniers must make to justify their conspiracy theories is just fun to watch."

 

The shoe actually is on the other foot. The AGW "science" has been shot so full of holes that the scientists and politicians who have staked their repu tations and careers on it spend all their time contorting like Houdini trying to escape the flooded phone booth. And you might note that Algore has gone silent on the issue. The only thing sustaining this scam are the pliant liberal media and brainwashed people like yourself.

 

And regardless of what else the Supreme Court said, they did recommend that people consider opinions opposing AGW, which you obviously have not. 

 

Originally Posted by Winston Niles Rumfoord:

"My goodness.  The mental gymnastics GW deniers must make to justify their conspiracy theories is just fun to watch."

 

The shoe actually is on the other foot. The AGW "science" has been shot so full of holes that the scientists and politicians who have staked their repu tations and careers on it spend all their time contorting like Houdini trying to escape the flooded phone booth. And you might note that Algore has gone silent on the issue. The only thing sustaining this scam are the pliant liberal media and brainwashed people like yourself.

 

And regardless of what else the Supreme Court said, they did recommend that people consider opinions opposing AGW, which you obviously have not. 

 

And the misrepresentation continues. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Etc. Etc. Etc.

While it was interpreting the law Unob, their commentary does affect people's opinions.

 

Especially this:

Somewhat in the same vein, Justice Ginsburg notes carbon dioxide is necessary and ubiquitous, and thus shouldn’t be the target of indiscriminate attacks. “After all, we each emit carbon dioxide merely by breathing,” she notes, repeating a point that Dyson couldn’t have said better himself.

Originally Posted by O No!:

As much as I respect Freeman Dyson, it seems to ME there is too much evidence to the contrary. Here's one from today's news:

 

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_CLIMATE_OCEANS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-06-26-12-24-11

Those claims about the Northwest Passage seem a little extreme. In all likelihood it was open during the Medieval Warm Period when the Vikings colonized Iceland and Greenland, and possibly went through the passage and settled in the Pacific Northwest. 

 

It was iced up during the Little Ice Age while the later explorers were trying to find it, by finally started opening again when the Little Ice Age gave way to the Modern Warm Period. Norwegian Roald Amundsen made it through the passage again in 1906 in a 70 foot boat.

 

 

 

This is a depiction of the temperature during this timespan. What most people don't understand, even scientists and climatologists, is that the Little Ice Age was anomalous, while the warm periods were the rule. So the modern warm period is more typical of climate over the last 12,000 years. 

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