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I hope Sessions in instituting an investigation into elections fraud, plus sedition.  

I don't think there was election fraud rather I think the accusations against Moore along with those who couldn't vote for Jones but did write in a candidate were ultimately responsible for the Jones win and I can only hope that Doug Jones will hold true to his promise rather than being a 100% obstructionist vote against Trump.  

What I do believe deserves investigation is starting with those who were highly partisan yet held positions within the Justice department and affected the investigation of Hillary along with working against Trump at the same time.  I think it's also time to resurrect the investigation of Hillary and the Clinton Foundation for I believe there was people within the justice department working to conceal evidence and steer the investigation away from Hillary and make sure she didn't face any scrutiny or indictment.  The whole current Muller investigation also is totally tainted and biased and needs to be shut down for what it is ... a total witch hunt and also people should face prison for their actions regarding the investigation and unmasking of people based entirely upon a known false and Democratic paid for dossier.  

sadly Alabama lost to democrat shaming.  40 years ago? really   who can run for office?   Democrats don't care about policy, it is all about if they like you or not.   if they like you great if they don't it was sexual harassment.   if they like you do anything, if they don't  trip and they will blow it up to you are evil.    I believe the democrat party is the devil.   

gbrk posted:

I don't think there was election fraud rather I think the accusations against Moore along with those who couldn't vote for Jones but did write in a candidate were ultimately responsible for the Jones win and I can only hope that Doug Jones will hold true to his promise rather than being a 100% obstructionist vote against Trump.  

What I do believe deserves investigation is starting with those who were highly partisan yet held positions within the Justice department and affected the investigation of Hillary along with working against Trump at the same time.  I think it's also time to resurrect the investigation of Hillary and the Clinton Foundation for I believe there was people within the justice department working to conceal evidence and steer the investigation away from Hillary and make sure she didn't face any scrutiny or indictment.  The whole current Muller investigation also is totally tainted and biased and needs to be shut down for what it is ... a total witch hunt and also people should face prison for their actions regarding the investigation and unmasking of people based entirely upon a known false and Democratic paid for dossier.  

Hillary used a law firm as a cut out to fund the fake dossier Fusion GPS made.  That is a civil crime punishable by a fine.  Fusion GPS hired Steele to author the dossier.  Supposedly, Steele went to Russia for part of the info, paying the Russian informants.  That can be a felony -- to involved foreigners in the election.  I hope the FEC and DoJ are looking into both.  

If, there were a real collusion between Putin and Trump, any Russian who provided anti-Trump info would now be dead.  

Real problem is that so many FBI and DoJ were involved in the effort, who can be trusted? 

Please let Sessions investigate voter fraud!!!! Maybe then the Republicans can stop beating that dead horse.

Arrests have been made and charges filed because of information found in said 'fake dossier'. Republicans have lost touch with reality. They're paying the price for living in that bubble.

I believe that far too many elections today have become beauty pageants, or worse, popularity contest more than qualifications based upon a person's experience and abilities.  I believe that the more our newest and youngest electorate gets to make decisions what with their pitiful educational training in Civics and our Nation's historical records and documents, that elections or popularity contest of the most beautiful people rather than their qualifications, intelligence, and experience will set our Nation on a course for eventual failure of the governing class.  

I foresee a day where good intentions rule the day but cunning deceptions and misplaced agendas control the Nation's direction for the future of generations to come.  Will our Nation see an actual end to Capitalism and a rise or reliance upon Socialism or, God forbid, some form of Communism in a future American Government?  When you eliminate the teaching and learning of our past history then you at times, are said to be doomed to repeat it.  The "Greatest Generation's" leaders are dying out and are becoming history themselves and those who are replacing them are leaders without appreciation for sacrifice and the things that made America exceptional and great.  We are developing future leaders that seem intent upon appeasement of enemies and total avoidance of conflict with a greater emphasis on theories and ideology rather than experience and historical approaches that have proven themselves over time but unfortunately  are not confined in some attractive packages so it's feasible to imagine that at some future time we elect and install leaders which do not have the where with all, guts, or ability, to make difficult decisions to counter tyrants or people that are ruthless and guided by the worst of human traits, despicable leaders that come around every so often that are capable of such horrendous things that only our imaginations can conceive of their limits, if there are any.  d

I don't believe that the Alabama elections have become a vision into the future of politics but it is evident that accusations have come to rule over elections far more than evidence or fact and that it my become possible that we face a future of elections where the same ole race baiting and economic tag lines don't work as well and are replaced by charges of sexual harassment and sexual abuse for they have discovered that accusations carry as much weight as actual convictions or evidence and can sway the result of an election in even the most partisan of areas allowing a liberal Democrat to win in the most Reddest/Republican (Conservative) of States.

gbrk posted:

I believe that far too many elections today have become beauty pageants, or worse, popularity contest more than qualifications based upon a person's experience and abilities.  I believe that the more our newest and youngest electorate gets to make decisions what with their pitiful educational training in Civics and our Nation's historical records and documents, that elections or popularity contest of the most beautiful people rather than their qualifications, intelligence, and experience will set our Nation on a course for eventual failure of the governing class.  

I foresee a day where good intentions rule the day but cunning deceptions and misplaced agendas control the Nation's direction for the future of generations to come.  Will our Nation see an actual end to Capitalism and a rise or reliance upon Socialism or, God forbid, some form of Communism in a future American Government?  When you eliminate the teaching and learning of our past history then you at times, are said to be doomed to repeat it.  The "Greatest Generation's" leaders are dying out and are becoming history themselves and those who are replacing them are leaders without appreciation for sacrifice and the things that made America exceptional and great.  We are developing future leaders that seem intent upon appeasement of enemies and total avoidance of conflict with a greater emphasis on theories and ideology rather than experience and historical approaches that have proven themselves over time but unfortunately  are not confined in some attractive packages so it's feasible to imagine that at some future time we elect and install leaders which do not have the where with all, guts, or ability, to make difficult decisions to counter tyrants or people that are ruthless and guided by the worst of human traits, despicable leaders that come around every so often that are capable of such horrendous things that only our imaginations can conceive of their limits, if there are any.  d

I don't believe that the Alabama elections have become a vision into the future of politics but it is evident that accusations have come to rule over elections far more than evidence or fact and that it my become possible that we face a future of elections where the same ole race baiting and economic tag lines don't work as well and are replaced by charges of sexual harassment and sexual abuse for they have discovered that accusations carry as much weight as actual convictions or evidence and can sway the result of an election in even the most partisan of areas allowing a liberal Democrat to win in the most Reddest/Republican (Conservative) of States.

You have only the Republican Party to thank for 'accusations becoming the norm for elections'. After all, Republicans are still trying to prosecute Hillary after SEVERAL REPUBLICANS have admitted the Hillary investigation was a ploy to defeat her Presidential run. Republicans made their bed, now they're whining about having to lay in it.

SirWasabi posted:

gbrk posted:

I believe that far too many elections today have become beauty pageants, or worse, popularity contest more than qualifications based upon a person's experience and abilities.  I believe that the more our newest and youngest electorate gets to make decisions what with their pitiful educational training in Civics and our Nation's historical records and documents, that elections or popularity contest of the most beautiful people rather than their qualifications, intelligence, and experience will set our Nation on a course for eventual failure of the governing class.  

I foresee a day where good intentions rule the day but cunning deceptions and misplaced agendas control the Nation's direction for the future of generations to come.  Will our Nation see an actual end to Capitalism and a rise or reliance upon Socialism or, God forbid, some form of Communism in a future American Government?  When you eliminate the teaching and learning of our past history then you at times, are said to be doomed to repeat it.  The "Greatest Generation's" leaders are dying out and are becoming history themselves and those who are replacing them are leaders without appreciation for sacrifice and the things that made America exceptional and great.  We are developing future leaders that seem intent upon appeasement of enemies and total avoidance of conflict with a greater emphasis on theories and ideology rather than experience and historical approaches that have proven themselves over time but unfortunately  are not confined in some attractive packages so it's feasible to imagine that at some future time we elect and install leaders which do not have the where with all, guts, or ability, to make difficult decisions to counter tyrants or people that are ruthless and guided by the worst of human traits, despicable leaders that come around every so often that are capable of such horrendous things that only our imaginations can conceive of their limits, if there are any.  d

I don't believe that the Alabama elections have become a vision into the future of politics but it is evident that accusations have come to rule over elections far more than evidence or fact and that it my become possible that we face a future of elections where the same ole race baiting and economic tag lines don't work as well and are replaced by charges of sexual harassment and sexual abuse for they have discovered that accusations carry as much weight as actual convictions or evidence and can sway the result of an election in even the most partisan of areas allowing a liberal Democrat to win in the most Reddest/Republican (Conservative) of States.

You have only the Republican Party to thank for 'accusations becoming the norm for elections'. After all, Republicans are still trying to prosecute Hillary after SEVERAL REPUBLICANS have admitted the Hillary investigation was a ploy to defeat her Presidential run. Republicans made their bed, now they're whining about having to lay in it.

What alternate reality are you in???  There is plenty enough reason to re-investigate Hillary and the Clinton foundation given information that has come to light about the Justice (FBI) department employees that not only were highly partisan (for Hillary) who controlled the Investigation around Hillary changing the language Comey used from language that was indictable and making it illegal to language that would not lead to a prosecution.  Pro Hillary (Democratic) employees of the Justice department insured that Hillary not only was to be interviewed without being under oath but that no records were kept and nothing would happen as a result.  The exact same Justice department employees are now on the team investigating Trump and trying to find out things against him.  

Just how more crooked and fixed could it possibly be?  The whole investigation against Hillary AND Trump are tainted by the exact same people and in the Democrats favor.  People should go to jail for what's been done especially in the unmasking of Americans based upon solely fake and fraudulent material that a warrant never should have been issued against.  

This is a Democratic mess not a Republican mess and the only question is if the Republicans will be organized enough to prosecute those involved.  

And the Republican narrative continues. After 9+ years of investigating the Clintons, NOTHING. Here we go again.

“This may not be politically correct, but I think that there was a big part of this investigation that was designed to go after people and an individual, Hillary Clinton,” Rep. Richard Hanna (R-N.Y.)

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) last month let it slip that the committee aimed to sink Clinton’s poll numbers.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has said there is insufficient basis to launch a special investigation of Hillary Clinton

Come on now, there is ample evidence now that the Obama Justice Department and those currently working in the FBI, many working on the Trump/Russia investigation, are favorable to Hillary and were responsible for changing the language Comey used describing Hillary's email activity from terminology which could warrant and indictment to language that is not criminal and that's been proven factual.   There are FBI agents, on Muller's team, dropping like flies due to them getting caught in conflict of interest situations and getting caught communicating negative feelings and opinions about Trump.   Also in one case one agent on Hillary's investigation was meeting with the ones responsible for the fake, purchased, dossier regarding Trump and the Russians and his wife also has been discovered to worked for the company responsible for creation of the dossier.  

All this information is just coming to light and all of it stinks of corruption so great that it make Watergate appear as some misdemeanor traffic ticket event.  It isn't a situation of allowing the fox in the chicken coop but rather a whole DEN of foxes in the chicken house while the door is locked.   

What about the time Clinton agreed to sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia made a big contribution to Chelsie's Charity? Should we investigate that?

Sorry but I haven't heard of that one.  

SirWasabi posted:

What about the time Clinton agreed to sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia made a big contribution to Chelsie's Charity? Should we investigate that?

Get,  Crow. Grown people are talking.

gbrk posted:

Sorry but I haven't heard of that one.  

Sorry! My mistake. Trump did that, not Hillary. Maybe it was Hillary who was paying personal bills from her charity?

Do you ever make a post that isn't some lame conspiracy theory or attempted humor, or an insult to another poster? What value do you contribute to any conversation? Short of attempted humor, you're a disruption at best. now, please go away, your constant begging for my attention is pitiful.

SirWasabi posted:

Do you ever make a post that isn't some lame conspiracy theory or attempted humor, or an insult to another poster? What value do you contribute to any conversation? Short of attempted humor, you're a disruption at best. now, please go away, your constant begging for my attention is pitiful.

Why didn't you just say so,,, maybe we could lunch some day..