The question I could never answer

I don't believe sexuality or sexual attraction is a thing that is born in anyone.  You are either assuming or saying that a child has a sexual attraction toward another even as a toddler abut I believe that sexual attraction begins later in life as children grow and become aware of their sexuality.  I never accepted Freud's contention that a child sexually envies his mother or father for I don't think that sexuality is even a part of their life until later in their early years.   IF you, or others, want to believe otherwise in order to somehow rationalize or justify your own opinion then have at it but to make dogmatic statements of fact is just being gullible of something someone is telling you.

Scientific fact?  You yourself know that scientific facts change from time to time depending on what the particular subject is.  People do research all the time and come up with various conflicting conclusions.  One persons scientific fact is another's conjecture.  Like I said if you feel comfortable and all warm and fuzzy with your opinion that's great, for you, but I'm not accepting it and I'll continue to believe otherwise.

Scientific "facts" "change" because science advances-keeps going, searching. One discovery leads to another and so forth. And it is ludicrous to say people "choose" to be homosexual. If you believe that you must live in fear that one day you, your children, life partner, will up and "decide" they want to be gay.

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Who said anything about Freud? While one study doesn't make a scientific fact, many do.  There is a difference between sexual attraction and sexual orientation.  So answer the question, one day you just decided that you would choose women over men, when was that, and why?  Until that day you could have gone either way?  When did you pick your eye color and handedness?

Aren't left handed people evil? So of course any good christian would choose to be right handed, and also make their kiddies use their right hand.

Of course, certain behaviors are genetically part of the species.

DF

hg> actually i'm vegetarian.

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Interesting.  Are you a Christian Scientist?  Why not?

Okay, vegetarian.  Do you wear any clothes with mixed fibers?  Have any tattoos? 

So you're a vegetarian-but do you eat pork? Many vegetarians do. Something tells me you fibbed so you could "skirt" the question.

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Read Leviticus lately?

As for not being a Christian Scientist, why not?  If you believe God over science, that is the logical path.

That is about as childish as your number game.  But, I do suppose some never outgrow the sandbox.

Regarding your questions above:  Research "Law versus Grace" and you will have your answer.  Then, their will be no more need for childish questions or games.   Good luck!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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You didn't confuse me, it's you that's confused. 

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The questions aren't childish, Bill.  They are at the heart of showing the ridiculousness of your fundamentalist nonsense.   When you come up with a non-conflicted answer on topics like the literalness of the Bible, 6k year old earth, and your distorted take on homosexuality, then we can discuss "Law and Grace".  Until then, good luck!

Until then, just for the fun of it, I'll ask you one more time, does Leviticus apply or not?

Number systems are used around the world in a multitude of situations.  They are designed to save time and promote accurate communication.  That I recognized a situation where a numbering system would work, and applied one, is somehow childish. I don't think so.

The real issue here is that Bill is just angry that the repetitiousness of his postings have been spotted, and that it is now quite obvious that he has absolutely nothing new, or even meaningful, to add to any conversation on the topic of religion.

"Childishness" is using the word "duh" in serious conversation, posting infantile cartoons, and not embracing a system that would save a large amount of time (a resource that Bill is running out of minute by minute) for more productive use.

Wah, wah, wah is all I'm hearing from Bill.

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Oh, and #9 would have been sufficient here.

No Best, I do not think that left handed people are evil.  I am left handed and I am not evil. Cute! Yes they use to make their kids use their right hand. Some teachers when I was in school would slap the left hand if they caught the child using it. I have even heard that they would tie the left arm behind the childs back to keep them from using it. I have also heard that left handed people have a neat and pretty handwriting. But really, I don't believe that it is evil to be left handed.

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My post was to show how superstitious and ignorant people were, and even still are about some things.

Yes, every book, every verse in the Bible counts -- and without them, no theology is truly valid.   However, to truly understand how this applies, one must understand the concept of "Law versus Grace."

And, it is very obvious that you, either, do not understand "Law versus Grace" -- in which case you can fix that problem by finding a solid Christ-centered, Bible-teaching church and becoming involved in their Bible studies.

Or, you do understand "Law versus Grace" and just want to continue playing your childish games as you emulate your atheist friends and comrades. 

Either way, my Friend, you are in need of serious spiritual help.   Do yourself a favor and find that church I mention above.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

This is a #6 and a big fat #7.  So do you eat pork?  You say Leviticus applies, then it doesn't.  Can't be both, regardless of your fundamentalist runaround.  For the record (again), my house is in order.  You need to worry about yours and your mental health.  You obviously have Alzheimer's.

Hi Crusty,

May I make a suggestion?  Why don't you go seclude yourself for a while, take your childish questions with you -- and, WHEN you learn the meaning of "Law versus Grace" -- come back and we will be able to have an adult dialogue.

Now, my Friend, if, for whatever reason, you do not have the ability to understand the concept of "Law versus Grace" -- please tell me so we can get you the help you need.  If you will admit that you cannot grasp that concept -- then, I will be happy to help you.

So, what is it?  Are you just going to stick you head in the sand?  Or, will you admit that you CANNOT understand?  Or, will you finally admit that you are just playing a childish game and are feverishly attempting to emulate your atheist idols?  You tell us which is the true situation with you.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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#s..6,,7 & 9

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#9.  If you don't like my questions, you don't have to answer them.  Oh, wait.... you never do.  I'm here as long as you are, Bill, pointing out the ridiculous contradictions and nonsense of fundamentalist Christians such as yourself.  Get used to it.

I understand your grace vs law argument.  I don't agree with the twisted, convoluted, and fallacious logic it takes to make your case. 

The rest of your post is just a big fat #8. 

Have a wonderfully blissed day, Bill.

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See how much time he could have saved?

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Yep, billie could be all the way to Manila by now.

I am curious! Did you obtain your tatoos while you were existing on nothing a year?  If so, were they donated or did they occur as stigmata?  Tthis seems as a logical pertinent question to me..

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and here we have the base and root of the reason that some of us stand up and speak out against religion -

" i don't care what you can prove,  it goes against what i choose to believe, so you are wrong"

this is THE perfect example of how religion is harmful to everyone, especially the people who follow it's fictional tenants. the real horrors start when the person who disregards reason and facts and tries to force their belief onto others.

someone once asked ' why do atheist come into a religion forum?" 

this is why. to help stop conscious willful ignorance, and to attempt to stem the spread of same to other people.

i'm not an atheist, but until the fundies stop trying to put their version of the bible into the government, i'm taking their side.

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Sounds like a logical question to me. I bet God told her to get them.

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I doubt that, since it is clearly not allowed in Leviticus. 

Me too.

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I was being Sarcastic. 

 Tattoo of a cat?

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Where was the tatt of the catt?

Check your PM.