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The funny thing is all the gay rights activists will get behind Obama because he is "for" gay marriage.  They forget that he was "for" gay marriage in the last election, and did nothing for them in the last few years, yet they will fall for the rhetoric once again and support him, regardless of far more important issues at hand.  People never learn.

David, I think there is a choice.  The gay  marriage issue is never going to die. States are going to continue to fight it, despite any national mandate.  On the other hand issues of the economy and national defense are far more pressing issues, and should not take a back seat to this issue.  Although I agree it may be very important to you, and I am not meaning to diminish it, but i think these types of issues are handled much better when the economic climate is secure and people do not feel like the government is being heavy handed and trying to push something down their throats.  Remember you will catch far more flies with honey than with vinegar, and right now the political climate is not very tasty. My feelings is that here you have a man who used you to get in office and did not do anything he really promised in that regard, and yet you would choose to support him again after seeing how wishy washy and weak he has been on these issues. He ran on change yet he has changed little to nothing other than proposing programs that have either been deemed unconstitutional or too costly to implement.  Don't waste a vote on another term for this empty suit.

I agree that the economy is a much bigger issue. Personally I think government should not be making laws at all that concerns someone's personal life. That is the major thing I don't like about Republicans. They try to meddle into your personal life and dictate how you should live. You can see it happening right here in Alabama now that the Republicans are in control.

Originally Posted by David L.:

Not really - I haven't forgotten and I think the gay community is very divided about him. However, when you look at the alternatives, he's the only viable choice. At least I admire his courage to speak his mind and stand up for equality.

He is only 'speaking his mind' for votes.   He will not touch the Defense of Marriage Act. Don't forget it was a democrat who signed it into law and it had huge support.

 

Legislative History

DOMA was signed by President Clinton on Sept. 21, 1996, becoming Pub.L. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419, codified at 1 USC 7 and 28 USC 1738C.  It passed the Congress as H.R. 3396. 

DOMA passed the U.S. House on July 12, 1996 by a vote of 342-67 (vote no. 316).  Floor statements on the bill will appear in the Congressional Record of that day.  House hearings on DOMA  were held on May 15, 1996 in a subcommittee of the Judiciary, Committee on the Constitution. The leading legislative record is the House Report, No. 104-664. The hearing before the subcommittee can be found here.

DOMA passed the U.S. Senate, unamended, on September 10, 1996, by a vote of 85 to 14 (vote no. 280).  The Senate Judiciary Committee held hearings on July 11, 1996 (on the bill S. 1740), and they were printed as Senate Hearings 104-533. 

 

And FWIW, Reid voted for the DOMA in 1996.

 

Nevada: Bryan (D-NV), Yea Reid (D-NV), Yea

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Hold da phone people. Romney has now come out and said he supports homosexuals adopting children. While he don't want them to get married, he wants them to live together and adopt.

 So now, Romney, like Obama, hasn't a clue about anything moral.

 

 But he will be able to funnel money to his rich friends on Wall Street just like Obama, he will be able to spend us into oblivion just like Obama, and he will give us socialized medicine just like Obama.

 Now exactly why is it I'm supposed to vote for Romney? Oh yeah, he a "conservative" Republican.

So why would you vote for Obama? You just said he is a Wall Street lackey, socialist, and reckless spender.

He just made 15 mil last night while letting the entertainers of the world tell him what to do. Now there is a great group of 'intelligent' minds to pull from.

 

As for Romney, seems he is realizing that 'homosexuals' are good people and he will not judge them for their sexual orientation even though he disagrees with it. Isn't that what a person should do?

Originally Posted by David L.:

I agree that the economy is a much bigger issue. Personally I think government should not be making laws at all that concerns someone's personal life. That is the major thing I don't like about Republicans. They try to meddle into your personal life and dictate how you should live. You can see it happening right here in Alabama now that the Republicans are in control.

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Meddle and tell you how to live???? You are talking about democrats. They tell you how to live, what to think, what to eat, where to live, where to work, who to hire, who to fire (no one, for any reason at all), they tell you that you have no right to complain about the criminals, on and on and on. How can you make such a statement that it's the republicans intruding into people's lives and give the democrats a pass on the freedom stifling things they do? 

You go chuck. Very well said. Let the gay's reproduce, Duh! & for david and teyates, Like the T-rex, it'll die out. Don't sweat the homo syndrome or is it sin-doom. They'll fade away or just die out. No more worries mate. Life is to short to cry over some other fools sins and bad habits. Think of all the starving and homeless children in the world today, and less about who Tom **** and Harry want to sleep with. Are you looking? God bless us all and the American people. Man shall not lay with man, nor woman with woman. Likewise not with maman nor beast either. Why isn't anyone bringing that issue up? The good ole south, hot dogs, baseball, & apple pie. Yee haw!!!!!! Brother. Break out the sheets again. Minus the hood? No pun intended. Sweet home Alabama.

Haha...what a rant Airmobile.....not sure where you have gotten the idea that I am condoning the activity, but rest assured I think only a fool would want the federal government involved in their bedroom affairs. I don't want them involved in my heterosexual relationship with my wife, and think they need to stay out of personal affairs.  Both parties do it, and it is not the sole fault of the Republicans.  I do not have to condone the activities of another, nor do I have to answer for it to anyone, that is their business. I base my vote on how the candidate's actions and plan will affect the economy and my livelihood. I will not change my vote if Romney decides to support gay marriage. Again I don't have to condone it, but what two consenting adults decide to do behind closed doors should not be my concern. 

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