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I'm more of an American Idol watcher... I tried watching this when I saw that Zac Hacker was on there. It just didn't really appeal to me, not to make that a reflection on how they sing, though. I've seen him and his sister a few times in the past sing. Both of them deserve to be there.

However, I would be watching it, if my friend Jay had gotten in. He was one of the 56 finalists. Otherwise, good luck to the Hacker's and I hope they do well. Big Grin

~Manda~
I have seen Zac and Angie on several different occasions, and they are really good... I am happy they have made it as far as they have, I wish them the BEST of luck and hope one of them win!!!!

But, like Manda, I like American Idol... I have a 2 CD's from one of our friends who made it all the way to Simon, Randy and Paula... She is REAL good. I watched last night, and the night in Milwalkee and could NOT believe the ones that were put through. Eeker Karen is MUCH MUCH better than anything I have seen so far on Television... I guess the first few cuts they have to make before seeing the dreaded SIMON are just tone deaf, lol...

No, I think it is exactly what Amanda said, ... they actually DO put people through for the 'entertainment' purposes.. and I think that is awful, because my heart breaks for those who THINK they are good, and then get up there only to be laughed at.... Frowner
I'm not a fan of either but I did see part of American Idol last night and it seems to me they were showing people that weren’t playing with a full deck for entertainment purposes. Its just one step away from Howard Stern having mentally retarded people on his show for the sole purpose of making fun of them. I guess when American Idol does it its okay?
I would have bet that Kindred_Spirit is a fan of American Idol or as I call it "Americans are way to Idol". Karahoky or American Idol appeal to about the same mentality ( I realize the show has great ratings but so does Jerry springer) . The Hacker's are both great artists. Notice I said artists. They are real Musicians and I wish them the best. Maybe if it weren't for all the Karahoky in the area they could make a descent living here. By the way Kindred it is not required that you answer every forum posted. Some of the forums you don't have a clue what the people are talking about, yet you answer them all.
For Change, what the heck was that for?

You may have a personal beef with my mom, and that's your perrogative, but she as well as you, and I are allowed to answer any and all forum posts on here. That's one of the things that when you sign up, you are allowed to do.

Seeing as you are bringing Karaoke in this post as well, which is kind of awkward, but can I ask why you care so much about Karaoke to let it affect you so? (sorry, it's the mediator in me, been doing so for years on a site I help admin. for)

I do have to agree with Uber about American Idol on the point that it does seem like they exploit those who may not realize it. There is a lot I don't like about A.I. but I do like the competition itself. I do and have criticized them for that reason (other places obviously) and I don't think it makes it ok for A.I. to do it, but unfortunately most other fans don't care enough to complain.

Anyway, I'm the one that started the A.I. conversation here. Blues, I apologize for that since you were just trying to spread the word on Nashville Star. Smiler

~Manda~
LOL... I'm sure my husband can empathize with you there.. I do the same thing with the remote.. Big Grin I'm sure if you behave, she'll let you watch, and even watch with you Big Grin

I agree about exposure, it is good for this area, I think I may have bias though, because my friend didnt get through and he's darn good too.. Smiler I might watch it as it progresses. The premiere of it was the first time I had ever watched Star, and it didn't do anything for me. Maybe later on in the season, it might peak my interests more Big Grin

Have fun watching and voting, I do hope they do well! Smiler

~Manda~
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Originally posted by for change:
I would have bet that Kindred_Spirit is a fan of American Idol or as I call it "Americans are way to Idol". Karahoky or American Idol appeal to about the same mentality ( I realize the show has great ratings but so does Jerry springer) . The Hacker's are both great artists. Notice I said artists. They are real Musicians and I wish them the best. Maybe if it weren't for all the Karahoky in the area they could make a descent living here. By the way Kindred it is not required that you answer every forum posted. Some of the forums you don't have a clue what the people are talking about, yet you answer them all.


With baited breath, everyone is wondering what KS is going to say to this jerk... whom I have not done anything to ....

Point #1 - forchange, YOU registered for this forum 11/27/06... and have TEN WHOLE COMMENTS... I registered for this NEW Forum 11/14/2006 and I have (counting this one) ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED THIRTY-THREE comments. The OLD Forum I had hundreds that aren't even counted here on the new one... and Yep, I am a participator... as IF that is any of your business.

Point #2.. NOW I am wondering just WHO you are, or rather who your OTHER personna is??? Somewhere down the line, you don't like me, not that it matters, but since I have had such LITTLE contact with YOU in the name of forchange, then nothing has happened to make you be so snide, insulting and downright RUDE...

Point #3.. You are JEALOUS, yep, you are jealous because I am here, I talk, I give opinions, and I have my life experiences backing those opinions up.

Point #4.. If you like American Idol, that is fine, it is fine if you don't, I could care less... and YES, I do like it, it is fine entertainment, with a lot of talent, and the competition is wonderful. The people who make it to the Top 12 on American Idol are ARTISTS in music, so what is wrong with that?? Hmmm, with Millions upon Millions of viewers, I would say that I am not alone either.

Point #5.. I have known the Hackers for a long time. I even went places the Hacker Brothers played back in the early 80's... A LOT!!! I have heard each and every one of them play and sing, and they are awesome, that we agree on, but in the number of years I have known them, supported them and liked them, doesn't make me a fan of Nashville Sound. But guess what? That is my business Smiler

Anyway, you had no right bringing all this up here on the post and centering me out above all others... and the only thing I can think of is that you are either jealous of me, or that I have disagreed with you on something... whatever it is, feel free to say it, honestly and in public.

Private messaging is available, but since you brought it public, I personally would prefer it to be public.

And with that, Hope you enjoy the show tonight, and I hope the Hackers do a GREAT job that I know they are capable of doing!!!!

GOOD LUCK HACKERS!!!! Zack and Angie!!!! I AM rooting for you two!
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by for change:
I would have bet that Kindred_Spirit is a fan of American Idol or as I call it "Americans are way to Idol". Karahoky or American Idol appeal to about the same mentality ( I realize the show has great ratings but so does Jerry springer) . The Hacker's are both great artists. Notice I said artists. They are real Musicians and I wish them the best. Maybe if it weren't for all the Karahoky in the area they could make a descent living here. By the way Kindred it is not required that you answer every forum posted. Some of the forums you don't have a clue what the people are talking about, yet you answer them all.


With baited breath, everyone is wondering what KS is going to say to this jerk... whom I have not done anything to ....

Point #1 - forchange, YOU registered for this forum 11/27/06... and have TEN WHOLE COMMENTS... I registered for this NEW Forum 11/14/2006 and I have (counting this one) ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED THIRTY-THREE comments. The OLD Forum I had hundreds that aren't even counted here on the new one... and Yep, I am a participator... as IF that is any of your business.

Point #2.. NOW I am wondering just WHO you are, or rather who your OTHER personna is??? Somewhere down the line, you don't like me, not that it matters, but since I have had such LITTLE contact with YOU in the name of forchange, then nothing has happened to make you be so snide, insulting and downright RUDE...

Point #3.. You are JEALOUS, yep, you are jealous because I am here, I talk, I give opinions, and I have my life experiences backing those opinions up.

Point #4.. If you like American Idol, that is fine, it is fine if you don't, I could care less... and YES, I do like it, it is fine entertainment, with a lot of talent, and the competition is wonderful. The people who make it to the Top 12 on American Idol are ARTISTS in music, so what is wrong with that?? Hmmm, with Millions upon Millions of viewers, I would say that I am not alone either.

Point #5.. I have known the Hackers for a long time. I even went places the Hacker Brothers played back in the early 80's... A LOT!!! I have heard each and every one of them play and sing, and they are awesome, that we agree on, but in the number of years I have known them, supported them and liked them, doesn't make me a fan of Nashville Sound. But guess what? That is my business Smiler

Anyway, you had no right bringing all this up here on the post and centering me out above all others... and the only thing I can think of is that you are either jealous of me, or that I have disagreed with you on something... whatever it is, feel free to say it, honestly and in public.

Private messaging is available, but since you brought it public, I personally would prefer it to be public.

And with that, Hope you enjoy the show tonight, and I hope the Hackers do a GREAT job that I know they are capable of doing!!!!

GOOD LUCK HACKERS!!!! Zack and Angie!!!! I AM rooting for you two!

not to start a war, but kindred lately you kinda talk down to people . like you think your life experience outweighs others. even in this post you assume that everyone is gonna side with you and sorry but as you said you have the right to post 1000+ times and he has the right to call you on everyone. after that you lost during the jealousy rant.
Spunion, It's obvious you don't really know my mom very well. I have a very strong need to defend her, but I know she's a big girl and can do that better than I ever could. But she's still my mom so I must say a few things.


To enlighten for change and those like him/her, I don't know what my mom might have said for some to feel so strongly against her, but you really should take the time to get to know her.

She really is one of the kindest, most compassionate people I know. That's something that doesn't always come across in the type written word, unfortunately.

I've seen it for nearly 6 years on a website that I help administrate for that has over 60,000 members. The type written word is so often misconstrued, it is so not funny.

People find offense, where there is none, and people usually localize that online by attacking. I don't quite understand bickering online, it serves no purpose, especially if there is no reason for the whole debacle.

So, continue judging her all you want to, that's up to you, but it is kind of petty, no matter the reason behind it. If you knew her, you would know that the heart behind the words is so beautiful.

Mom, don't you ever change for no one, you hear me? Smiler

She might kick my tail for writing all that (figuratively speaking of course), but it is the truth.

Smurph, I cant answer any of those, but I just to say this for my own reason.. I am a completely different person. Just in case anyone was wondering that. Big Grin I'm sure it's obvious though, she and I write completely different and handle things differently too.

~Manda~
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Originally posted by smurph:
good grief, whats with all these " new" personas? What business is it of anyones HOW much KS, or anyone else posts on these forums? She does not violate the forum rules, which has just been done by this "newbie" by making a personal attack.


Thank you smurph... and you are right. Although I do not regret one word I said to this personna "for change"... I really do regret even giving their comment the time of day, I should have just laughed. LOL... Hope you have a great FRIDAY!!! YAY
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Originally posted by spunonion:

not to start a war, but kindred lately you kinda talk down to people . like you think your life experience outweighs others. even in this post you assume that everyone is gonna side with you and sorry but as you said you have the right to post 1000+ times and he has the right to call you on everyone. after that you lost during the jealousy rant.


Actually spunonion, if you think about it... and try to reason in your head about WHY something like what "for change" said, then you have to try to make full circle. I did mention jealousy, as well as a few more points of conjecture as to WHY I was personally attacked by this persnna??? I dont know, but one thing I AM SURE Of, is that "for change" is not the only account they have here on TD.

"for change" had no right to call me out, as it was a DISCUSSION, NOT A DEBATE. I didn't make any comment here to offend anyone and if I did I apologize... Sorry you disagreed, but I spoke as honestly about what I KNEW about the reasoning about that personal attack. As you can see, I DID wait over 2 hours before commenting to him/her... because I needed composure dealing with an insulting, snide comment that was thrown at me.

That is just the way I handle things, and if people cannot accept that, then I don't know what else to do, except become a people pleaser, and I am too dang old for that, lol..

"for change" shouldn't have made the comment, if they didnt want me coming back with one... and not only that, he/she brought up EVERYTHING on the site.... that is why I said jealous and it was NOT a rant, it was a COMMENT. He/she didn't stop at commenting about American Idol comparing to Nashville Sound, but had to go on and on about me replying to every post on here... what does that sound like to you? Sounds like TROLLING to me.

"for change" .. YOU too can comment to every post here, it IS okay to do that... Smiler

And PLEASE PLEASE go back and re-read what for change said, it was totally out of left field, centering me out, and it was his/her first and ONLY comment to this post... What does that tell you????

Nope, I cannot, and I will not allow people to talk to me that way without MY own come back... That is just ... LIFE...
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Originally posted by smurph:
man, i was blown away with Zacks performance! I really felt he did great.
i know if Angela would do some of Bonnie Raitts songs,she would walk away with it, hands down!



pssst, smurph... the REASON I like AI better is that it is over by 9:00, which is what time I am usually going to bed, since I get up at 3 AM. THAT is one reason I didn't watch the show, but I am VERY VERY happy that Zack did great last night, I know he was sick last week and STILL made it through!!! Both of them have so much talent they deserve to win!!
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Originally posted by smurph:
man, i was blown away with Zacks performance! I really felt he did great.
i know if Angela would do some of Bonnie Raitts songs,she would walk away with it, hands down!


I agree, Smurph! Angela Hacker's voice lends itself to the type of songs Bonnie Raitt sings. I love Angela's voice, it has a rough quality that appeals...Angela, we a rooting for you, Girl!! She does a lot of different types of songs, and does it all well, but I would like to hear her do Black Velvet, also.
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Originally posted by smurph:
man, i was blown away with Zacks performance! I really felt he did great.
i know if Angela would do some of Bonnie Raitts songs,she would walk away with it, hands down!


smurph, there were a bunch of people at work today bragging on Zack and his performance, they were very impressed. Angela is great also. I personally didn't see the show, I go to bed too early for that one, but I AM sincerely happy these two are doing so well!!!

They are doing so much better than they used to do in clubs, but I guess the sound and sizes of bld's make a huge difference. Small clubs just don't do people like the Hackers justice at all.. and that praise came from a guy I work with who knows Zack, and he owns his own small recording studio.

All my info is second hand, but hey, that is better than none at all Smiler
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by spunonion:

not to start a war, but kindred lately you kinda talk down to people . like you think your life experience outweighs others. even in this post you assume that everyone is gonna side with you and sorry but as you said you have the right to post 1000+ times and he has the right to call you on everyone. after that you lost during the jealousy rant.


Actually spunonion, if you think about it... and try to reason in your head about WHY something like what "for change" said, then you have to try to make full circle. I did mention jealousy, as well as a few more points of conjecture as to WHY I was personally attacked by this persnna??? I dont know, but one thing I AM SURE Of, is that "for change" is not the only account they have here on TD.

"for change" had no right to call me out, as it was a DISCUSSION, NOT A DEBATE. I didn't make any comment here to offend anyone and if I did I apologize... Sorry you disagreed, but I spoke as honestly about what I KNEW about the reasoning about that personal attack. As you can see, I DID wait over 2 hours before commenting to him/her... because I needed composure dealing with an insulting, snide comment that was thrown at me.

That is just the way I handle things, and if people cannot accept that, then I don't know what else to do, except become a people pleaser, and I am too dang old for that, lol..

"for change" shouldn't have made the comment, if they didnt want me coming back with one... and not only that, he/she brought up EVERYTHING on the site.... that is why I said jealous and it was NOT a rant, it was a COMMENT. He/she didn't stop at commenting about American Idol comparing to Nashville Sound, but had to go on and on about me replying to every post on here... what does that sound like to you? Sounds like TROLLING to me.

"for change" .. YOU too can comment to every post here, it IS okay to do that... Smiler

And PLEASE PLEASE go back and re-read what for change said, it was totally out of left field, centering me out, and it was his/her first and ONLY comment to this post... What does that tell you????

Nope, I cannot, and I will not allow people to talk to me that way without MY own come back... That is just ... LIFE...

sorry i missed the attack you spoke of. i didnt think his post was that bad compared to others i have seen, there have been much worse posts directed toward other indivivduals. just as your daughter said in her vigorous defense you might have misconstrued the type written word. as far as your 1000+ posts, post all you want but my granddaddy said the more a person talks,the less people listen.
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Originally posted by spunonion:

sorry i missed the attack you spoke of. i didnt think his post was that bad compared to others i have seen, there have been much worse posts directed toward other indivivduals. just as your daughter said in her vigorous defense you might have misconstrued the type written word. as far as your 1000+ posts, post all you want but my granddaddy said the more a person talks,the less people listen.


His attack was directed at ME, personally, and was not nice at all, but what you don't know, it wasn't the FIRST time either, that is one reason I reacted the way I did... and my daughter will always defend me, IF I AM RIGHT, and in this case, I didn't deserve that. But I read what you said, and maybe I DID over react... and for that, I apologize to those who had to read it... but not to 'for change'..... well, for obvious reasons... not yet anyway, lol.

Ya know, I have said a lot of things on here that 'wasn't too nice'... but honestly I TRY hard not to do that, so maybe it was just my turn, lol... Anyway, I am over it Smiler

And, I am for the HACKERS also, I just go to bed too early to watch that show... AI is usually not even over before I fall asleep.. getting up at 3 AM isn't easy at my age, LOL..

And if you don't wanna listen, I even understand that also... and it is okay Smiler
Kindred_Spirit, we all have had life experiences, we all have learned from them the same lessons you have albiet differently. I agree with the opinion of some others who think you "rub it in" that you have learned, learned, learned from life. Who hasn't?
I agree that you have the right to express yourself in the way you see fit, though, so go for it!!



"Deep down we are all shallow..."
Spunion, I only defend my mom if she is right, as she has always done for me. If I see her step out of line, though, I don't publicly humiliate her by telling her on the forums. (but of course, I see her often so, no need there.)

If you ask me, there are far too many nit pickers here. Too many take this place so seriously that you would think it was trimmed in gold and the finest silk. Smiler

As for my comment, although it might have been vigorous, it was not insulting. I think the person who started this is sitting back and laughing at all the commotion that their comment has caused. Letting others "fight his or her battle" for them. Smiler

Personally, now, if there is something that I want to say to someone on here that is off the subject matter, I private message them. That'd be a good thing for everyone to do, that way others, like me don't see it or get involved. Smiler

Either way though, I feel bad for the poster, bluesmann, because this has in a way ruined his thread. I'm sorry Blues.

~Manda~

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