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Isn't it amazing, predictable, interesting how for four years on liberals, Democrats, and the Media was certain, absolute, sure that there was Russian meddling in the 2016 Presidential election such that millions if not a billion was spent on finding, or making up, evidence to fit a narrative to support that Trump didn't win the election but that he stole it from Hillary in 2016 and anyone that didn't question the election was summarily dismissed as a conspirator in the election fraud and a Russian plant or agent?

Flash ahead to 2020/2021 and the same liberals, Democrats, Media were so quick to claim that the 2020 Presidential election was pristine and "perfect" the most Perfect election ever AND at the same time crucify if not impeach Trump for claims that the Election was stolen by fraud in Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania and anyone that questioned the election are National terrorist who are seeking to overthrow our Government and warrants imprisonment.

You know I honestly believe that there are people on both sides that cheat each election and get away with it and it is possible that one or two states, if swung, may actually determine an election these days.  I also don't doubt that Russia, China, and even Israel among others seek to affect each election we have and are at work trying to get one of the candidates elected by whatever means they can.  I'm sure of it because I'm also sure that our own Country, the USA, also seeks to effect the outcome of elections in other Nations and around the globe to their own benefit if possible.  Are any of these actors successful in their efforts?  I don't really know nor could I but I'm sure it happens so Democrats crying foul about Russia is so disingenuous given that the Obama administration did the exact thing in Israel to try and sway the outcome of their elections.  

I'm also sure that our resident liberal/Democrat (who believes that only the Democrats are pristine and without flaw or error) will be crying to heaven that the (born) evil Republicans are the only ones who do such things and were successful in electing Bush and even Trump.  It's sad that today, more so than before, it may be possible to change the outcome of an election by swaying one or two states outcomes by planting ballots or generating ballots because the elections today are just that close.  I also support the winner whether it's Trump, Bush, Biden or Obama because they are President an I support or respect the office but pray they don't do damage to our constitution and the freedoms that it gives us.  I don't support measures to weaken the constitution or take and guarantee more power and sole representation but I do honor the position that they hold.  

With Biden I do though feel that the situation is a unique one in that I don't believe Biden is actually President and I don't mean wasn't elected but rather that an unknown, unseen, committee of how many ever power players actually determine policy and use Biden as figurehead just as long as he goes along with their judgements and mandates.  Joe may do some things on his own but mostly he messes up when he's doing things his way and not being directed and working strictly on script.   Oh well I can't prove it but I believe it.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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Lib***** want us to believe a woman that slept her way to her position and dropped out of the presidential race because of low favorable ratings....and a demented old pedophile that was in politics for over 50 years with nothing to show for it except making himself and his family rich through corruption/quid pro quo...a man that ran three times for office and lost miserably...suddenly got a record breaking number of votes. Not only did Kamala call Joe Biden a racist...among other derogatory true things she said about him and said she believed Reade... but China Joe couldn't even get Obama's endorsement until the very last minute when his lack of endorsement had become embarrassing to the DNC. Then and only then did Obama gave his half-hearted endorsement. Odd isn't it...that the president that got the most votes in history...to hear libs tell it...had to have such a military presence at his infrauderation and STILL keeps the military....which libs hate....around him.

"I also support the winner whether it's Trump, Bush, Biden or Obama because they are President an I support or respect the office but pray they don't do damage to our constitution and the freedoms that it gives us.  I don't support measures to weaken the constitution or take and guarantee more power and sole representation but I do honor the position that they hold".

Supporting any dem IS doing damage to our constitution and our freedoms. Their goal is to weaken/destroy the constitution and take and guarantee more power and sole representation for them. They have made a mockery of the 'position they hold'.

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Here is the thing thought, with respect to supporting the President.  WHO is the actual President today because, it's sad to say, I don't believe it's Joe Biden.  Just listen to the man speak or what he says so many times and so many places talking about making someone "mad at him" or "he'll be in trouble".  In trouble with who?   If you are the President then you are in the top position and all around you are lower but with Joe he's constantly afraid of getting in trouble with "someone".  Who is that someone?   I wouldn't be surprised if it were several someones with Obama among the group but either way it goes I don't think it's Biden.   I think Joe is but a figurehead and those who actually control him would breath a sigh of relief if somehow the man became unable to speak for some reason.  

You had four year of them trying to get Trump to take a cognitive test, which he finally did and passed with flying colors, yet no one is asking Joe to take one or requiring one of Joe.  All this kissing up and favoring of Joe by the media is dangerous because you can bet China and Russia as well as other adversaries are paying attention to it.  Sadly though I don't think it will matter one bit because the very people that could do something about it are happy with the status quo and leaving things as they are as long as they can control the strings of actual power, from behind the scenes and I wonder will America's general voting population ever know the better?

You can best be assured that there are plenty that know the world is knocking at the door of the White House but no one is home.  Imagine if Trump had to have his wife follow him around everywhere and direct him where to go and what to say?  Do you think the media would lay off that?  This type thing may have been doable and covered up in Roosevelt's day or even Kennedy's day, which much was covered up and kept secret, but in this day of social media and everyone having a camera or recording device with them everywhere you cannot hide anything anymore, not as in those past President's days.  Then again they were able to elect Biden without him ever getting out much to campaign and were able to most totally control him during the election to the point that he kept out of the public eye in the name of COVID.

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Here is the thing thought, with respect to supporting the President.  WHO is the actual President today because, it's sad to say, I don't believe it's Joe Biden.  Just listen to the man speak or what he says so many times and so many places talking about making someone "mad at him" or "he'll be in trouble".  In trouble with who?   If you are the President then you are in the top position and all around you are lower but with Joe he's constantly afraid of getting in trouble with "someone".  Who is that someone?   I wouldn't be surprised if it were several someones with Obama among the group but either way it goes I don't think it's Biden.   I think Joe is but a figurehead and those who actually control him would breath a sigh of relief if somehow the man became unable to speak for some reason.  

You had four year of them trying to get Trump to take a cognitive test, which he finally did and passed with flying colors, yet no one is asking Joe to take one or requiring one of Joe.  All this kissing up and favoring of Joe by the media is dangerous because you can bet China and Russia as well as other adversaries are paying attention to it.  Sadly though I don't think it will matter one bit because the very people that could do something about it are happy with the status quo and leaving things as they are as long as they can control the strings of actual power, from behind the scenes and I wonder will America's general voting population ever know the better?

You can best be assured that there are plenty that know the world is knocking at the door of the White House but no one is home.  Imagine if Trump had to have his wife follow him around everywhere and direct him where to go and what to say?  Do you think the media would lay off that?  This type thing may have been doable and covered up in Roosevelt's day or even Kennedy's day, which much was covered up and kept secret, but in this day of social media and everyone having a camera or recording device with them everywhere you cannot hide anything anymore, not as in those past President's days.  Then again they were able to elect Biden without him ever getting out much to campaign and were able to most totally control him during the election to the point that he kept out of the public eye in the name of COVID.

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