I live in Chicago and we are losing convention business to Florida. Guess why? It costs $1,000 more to put in an ice and soda machine in preparation for a convention in Chicago than it does in Orlando because you have to use union labor in Chicago. That's just a small example. There are many more.
quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
I live in Chicago and we are losing convention business to Florida. Guess why? It costs $1,000 more to put in an ice and soda machine in preparation for a convention in Chicago than it does in Orlando because you have to use union labor in Chicago. That's just a small example. There are many more.
Orlando labor is all illegals. No illegals in unions. What you need is for the unions to take over the conventions business in Orlando!!!
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Dittohead:quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
I live in Chicago and we are losing convention business to Florida. Guess why? It costs $1,000 more to put in an ice and soda machine in preparation for a convention in Chicago than it does in Orlando because you have to use union labor in Chicago. That's just a small example. There are many more.
Orlando labor is all illegals. No illegals in unions. What you need is for the unions to take over the conventions business in Orlando!!!
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
quote:Sez The Propagandist: IF YOU HAVE:
• An eight hour workday
• A five day work week
• Paid sick days, vacation days, and holidays
• Family and medical leave
• Health, life, and disability insurance
• A pension
• Safe and healthy working conditions
• Proper job training
THEN THANK A UNION MEMBER
Otherwise, it's "work til you drop." Has your employer thanked you for adding to his prosperity today?
quote:Sez "The Mean Ol' Witch": Prop,
I thank it should be Teddy Roosevelt, not the unions.
http://millercenter.org/presid...t/essays/biography/4
Oops!
"FOX-O-PHIL"
quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
What happens when a grocery store has too many bananas? The price goes down!
What happens when a job market has too many unemployed workers looking for jobs? The price goes down!
And not just for those looking for work -- it affects employed workers, too. One day your boss comes and says "You know, there are 1000 people out there that would love to have your job for $2 per hour less than I'm paying you. So I'm cutting your pay $1.95 per hour. Your experience on the job is worth at least a nickel to me."
So, what do you do? Without a union contract, you suck it up and deal with it. Or, you can quit and look for something better, joining the millions of unemployed looking for that one job paying less than you make now.
That's how the market works out for you.
quote:Originally posted by The Propagandist:quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
What happens when a grocery store has too many bananas? The price goes down!
What happens when a job market has too many unemployed workers looking for jobs? The price goes down!
And not just for those looking for work -- it affects employed workers, too. One day your boss comes and says "You know, there are 1000 people out there that would love to have your job for $2 per hour less than I'm paying you. So I'm cutting your pay $1.95 per hour. Your experience on the job is worth at least a nickel to me."
So, what do you do? Without a union contract, you suck it up and deal with it. Or, you can quit and look for something better, joining the millions of unemployed looking for that one job paying less than you make now.
That's how the market works out for you.
In your scenario the union says hell no and goes on strike. The company closes the door and moves on. Now you have 1,00 union people on unemployment. Nice work unions.
quote:Originally posted by The Propagandist:quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
What happens when a grocery store has too many bananas? The price goes down!
What happens when a job market has too many unemployed workers looking for jobs? The price goes down!
And not just for those looking for work -- it affects employed workers, too. One day your boss comes and says "You know, there are 1000 people out there that would love to have your job for $2 per hour less than I'm paying you. So I'm cutting your pay $1.95 per hour. Your experience on the job is worth at least a nickel to me."
So, what do you do? Without a union contract, you suck it up and deal with it. Or, you can quit and look for something better, joining the millions of unemployed looking for that one job paying less than you make now.
That's how the market works out for you.
Well, the first priority of any business is to be profitable. Without profits there is no business. My comp went down during 08 & 09 because of the bad economy. We also laid off a bunch of people.
During economic expansions it works the other way as well. It's why you found job postings back in 04 & 05 offering burger flippers $10 an hour in Florence.
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:quote:Originally posted by The Propagandist:quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
Without a union contract, you suck it up and deal with it.
In your scenario the union says hell no and goes on strike. The company closes the door and moves on. Now you have 1,00 union people on unemployment. Nice work unions.
What union in my scenario? Please read the entire thing before thinking about whether you want to post a reply.
Reminds me of a rusted-out truck I saw in a field one time -- there might be something there, but it sure is heck ain't going anywhere.
quote:Originally posted by The Propagandist:quote:Originally posted by Kenny Powers:
Or, we could just let the market determine what the value of labor is and be done with it.
What happens when a grocery store has too many bananas? The price goes down!
What happens when a job market has too many unemployed workers looking for jobs? The price goes down!
And not just for those looking for work -- it affects employed workers, too. One day your boss comes and says "You know, there are 1000 people out there that would love to have your job for $2 per hour less than I'm paying you. So I'm cutting your pay $1.95 per hour. Your experience on the job is worth at least a nickel to me."
So, what do you do? Without a union contract, you suck it up and deal with it. Or, you can quit and look for something better, joining the millions of unemployed looking for that one job paying less than you make now.
That's how the market works out for you.
Hey dipstick, you're saying this scenario couldn't happen with a union contract. I was telling what would happen with a union contract. Please read your own post before replying to my reply.