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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 at 06:48PM by Janice Putman | Comments Off
June 16, 2010



Still clueless after all these years.

By Peter M. De Lorenzo

(Posted 6/15, 7:00PM) Detroit. Even though we’ve had a spate of spectacular warm weather of late, just be glad you’re not around here this week. Why? Because we’ve had to endure something called the “Constitutional Convention” of the United Auto Workers taking place down at the Cobo Center. And that means we’ve been subjected to all of the hot air generated by the attendees and their so-called “leadership,” with our local media dutifully reporting every nonsensical utterance.

Not that our local media had much of a choice. After all, this is the one state in the country that has been subjected to – no, make that held hostage by – the union movement to the detriment of everything else, so if our local media mavens decided to let the UAW twist in the wind - as befitting the most ineffectual and out-of-touch entity of its kind in the world – then the long knives would come out and the emboldened hordes of the UAW would unleash their considerable bombastic fury on the local journalistic establishment for all to witness.

And Detroit, of course, is unfortunately the perfect environment for something called the UAW “Constitutional Convention,” because after all this is the epicenter of the union movement in America, the one place in the country where the unions have been allowed to flourish unfettered and virtually unimpeded for decades.

Ever since long-ago Mayor Coleman A. Young planted his jaundiced flag in the heart of the city’s government and slowly and systematically removed the last shred of common sense when it came to rational governance and replaced it with a virulently insidious strain of entitlement compounded by a level of self-righteous “what’s in it for me?” that still knows no bounds within the city limits – no matter how hard the current Mayor Dave Bing tries to rectify it. And ever since the city of Detroit has been stumbling about in a perpetual state of mediocrity, paralyzed by its own willful intransigence and slowly but surely grinding itself into smithereens.

So we’ve had to put up with every sound bite – each one sounding more outrageous and ridiculous than the one before – and wade through countless headlines and the endless streams of misplaced rhetoric, just so Ron Gettelfinger – the outgoing President of the UAW – can hand over the reins of power to UAW Vice President Bob King, yet another in a long line of over hyped and overblown “statesmen” to come out of the UAW whose sole contribution to societal discourse has been to consistently and relentlessly redefine the term “intractable.”

The gist of the convention - just so I can spare you the more outrageously infuriating details - is that the UAW is out to reclaim all of the concessions it was forced to make in order to keep the domestic automobile industry from totally imploding, so that they can get back to the way things used to be, like none of the sturm und drang of the last 24 months ever happened.

Really?

With Chrysler still very much in limbo, Ford finally just now righting itself after years of teetering on the brink, and GM still reaching for every positive development it can latch on to while it continues to claw its way out of the most humiliating corporate bankruptcy in American industrial history, the UAW is now ready – make that expecting – to have everything returned back to “the way it used to be” so that they can go back to getting “theirs” - ?

Yes, really.

How appalling has this display been down at Cobo? They even enlisted the President of the AFL-CIO, a guy by the name of Richard Trumka, to come on down and add his two cents to the proceedings, which he willingly obliged by spouting, "The three major U.S. companies are making profits again. We salute their success, and we demand that they do right by the workers who have done right by them. Just as there has been shared sacrifice in periods of pain, there must be shared prosperity in periods of gain."

Huh? Not that I’d expect any union leader to be encumbered with the facts by any means, but in case anybody bothered to look beyond the somewhat rosy headlines dealing with the state of the domestic automobile industry of late they’d find that none of these car companies - including Ford - are anywhere near being out of the woods yet. Not even close, in fact.

The bottom line is that the domestic automobile industry is still on the brink. Yes, there are real signs of optimism if you can learn to decipher the tea leaves properly but make no mistake, the “recovery” – no matter which way, shape, or form it takes – is going to be excruciatingly s-l-o-w. There will be no finger-snaps resulting in “happy days are here again” profitability, and there is never going to be a domestic automobile industry that even approaches what it once was at its peak. It’s just notgonnahappen.com.

So into this somber reality marches the lame-brained leadership – old and new – of the UAW. In his farewell speech to the conference, Ron Gettelfinger exhorted his minions in the rank and file to light the fires again. Here’s an excerpt:

“Employers have always known that a union is the only instrument that gives working men and women any form of equity and justice in the workplace. Most employers have consistently and vigorously opposed unions with every means at their disposal. During and since the auto crisis they focused their smear tactics on the UAW like never before.

Their rhetoric has become a drumbeat of anti-union chatter. It has no merit but it continues to shape and form opinions against unions. These pro-employer, anti-worker, anti-union forces continually attack unions and workers who want to form a union. Those they represent belong to organizations that help them to gain clout in the employer community but they prefer to have the ability to trample on workers rights individual by individual. These anti-union forces are simply motivated by greed.

We are driven by equity and justice in the workplace, and, brothers and sisters, in the end, we will prevail.”

Gettelfinger went on to say that, “Today, more than ever, we need to feel the passion of the labor movement.”

Really, Ron? Passion? How about that’s the very last thing the “movement” needs.

Instead, it would have been much better if you had performed a public service for the UAW members in attendance – and the rest of the nation for that matter - by injecting a large dose of reality into your “Constitutional Convention.”

By that I mean being straight-up with what’s left of your constituency by urging them to get their collective heads out of the sand and then telling them to turn off the “white noise” emanating from their so-called “enlightened” leadership – especially Bob King – because it will count for absolutely nothing going forward.

It’s hard to believe that at this juncture, with everything that has transpired in the global economy and with the near-death experience of the domestic automobile industry still raw in everyone’s mind, the UAW leadership is still clinging to hoary notions of entitlement and squawking about getting their “fair” share.

And even more outrageous to contemplate, that the UAW actually believes that they - and their “cause” - still have relevance in this age of brutal global competition, where leaders of newly invigorated countries manipulate everything in their path to extract an economic advantage over the rest of the world, while at the same time doing everything in their power to court automakers and convince them to do business there.

The bottom line in all of this is that time ran out on the UAW a long time ago.

Enabled by a domestic auto industry that kept acquiescing to escalating union demands out of fear of what would happen if they didn’t, the UAW and “Detroit” wandered down the primrose path to oblivion together, smugly ensconced in their pathetic self-righteousness and maniacal short-term thinking while staunchly convinced that The End would never come and that the good times would last forever.

Well guess what? The End did come and with a ferociousness and finality that even the most jaded among us couldn’t have predicted.

Everything that worked, everything that used to be accepted as standard operating procedure in this industry is now gone, never to return. This industry has undergone a fundamental transformation requiring a scope of change only witnessed once before, and that was during World War II.

It’s just too bad that no one over at the “Solidarity House” got the memo.

Out of touch, out of time, and totally irrelevant, the UAW is an entity whose time has most assuredly passed.

And that’s the High-Octane Truth for this week.
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Once Upon A Time....

... in a land far, far away.. Unions were a good thing. They were a very good thing in deed. They forced greedy Owners to provide safe working enviroments and adequate compensation for the labor provided.

Eventually, the Unions forced the companies/owners to provide compensations like insurance, and pensions and so forth.

The days passed, and the money in the land seemed to disappear and eventually the companies were being hurt because the economy of the country was low. the companies were in dire trouble. they needed to come up with a way to save money.
the companies went to the unions and said, may we please cut back on some of the money we give you, so that we may save the company?

But the once wonderful, good unions had gotten greedy and power hungry, like the company owners had been to start with. and they said No, you may not stop paying us, or we will Strike!

and the companies said " but Unions.. if you keep making us pay all of this, eventually we will go out of business, and then you won't be getting ANY money from us."

and the Unions said "Oh dang. we hadn't thought of that. ok. we can cut a little here and here... but when you start making money again, we're going back to what we have now, and will probably demand extra for saving your butts. if you you have a problem with that, we'll send Guido and Big Tony around to discuss things some night.

And the unions lived happily ever after.


Unions have outlived their usefulness. everything that they brought about is now mandated by labor laws. nowadays, the only thing unions provide are higher costs, stupidly high wages for very little work.
In my opinion, every labor union in the country should be disbanded. they are now the problem, instead of the soloution.


I know a guy.. long time ago now, he started work in a factory. his position was 'runner'. which basically comes down to being the office flunky.
about 2 weeks in, the office manager cut a corner too sharply and clipped the door frame and splashed his coffee. a little dripped on the floor, and some splashed on the window of his office.
he handed my friend a packet of reports to run down to the plant forman. when he got back, the boss was out of the office, so since my friend had nothing to do for just a minute he went to the little kitchenette area, got a few napkins, wiped the dribble of coffee from the floor, and was working on the window, and the outer office door opened and some dude pushing a little janitorial cart came in, saw what my friend was doing and went berzerk. i mean, had a total conniption because my friend wiped up what probably totaled 1.5 ounces of coffee ( with creamer ).

to make a long story not as long as it would be, i'll cut right to it.
the end result for spending 30 seconds to wipe up spilled coffee, my friend ended up before some type of board of inquiry. he said there was a rep from all 6 of the unions represented in that plant, and each basically said ' what did you think you were doing? in shocked, angry disbelieving tones.'
they decided to let him go, new employee, first offence etc, without a fine, but they said a formal reprimand would be placed in his file and filed with his union. to which he said "i have a union?". so they began to lambast and berate him on not being well studdied in his union bylaws, etc etc. they told him it was information he should know by heart, his local number, his union rep, everything.

so, in many many eloquent, multi-syllabic, probably illegal, and in some cases physically and anatomically impossible phrases, he began an explanation exactly where they could put their union bylaws, and the union reps, and walked out the door.

i've never been a fan of unions - but this tale, related to me over a few beers, just made it just a little more certain i didn't like them.
Hmm.. I've noticed the whole anti-union sentiment around these parts.



Once upon yesterday, unions are still a good thing.

I'm a Teamster, new to local 402. For better than a decade I was a member of United Service Workers-IUJAT local 455, before that- SEIU local 955.

I used to be against unions. People told me back then that they just take your money and don't do anything for you.

Man, was I wrong.

For a long time, the companies that run the industry that I work in got away with paying drivers peanuts, hiring very old (Can ya say "Skeletor?) drivers who could barely pass a DOT physical exam and just did the job for something to do before they croaked (and as it turned out-they usually croaked while on duty, sometimes behind the freakin' wheel!).

Well, The federal government and the states decided that it would now be a lot harder to get and keep a CDL and a certificate if necessary. It got tougher to be qualified to do what I do, but the pay and working conditions remanined the same. Lousy pay, inadequately maintained equipment, crazy hours, and no job security whatsoever.

Comes this union rep named Troy one day saying he can help us drivers make a modest living at what we do. It'll only cost us 4.00-6.00 per week. Well, a lot of us drivers didn't like the fact that somebody wanted to take a part of the already chump change we were making..

Troy says, "Look at it this way, If I told you I could get you an extra $100 a week, would you give me 6 dollars of it weekly? How about some basic medical insurance that you can actually afford?" among other things.

Well that sounded good to me.

Within six years, I went from making 7.50/hr to making 21.50/hr. If I needed to go to the doctor, it only cost me 20 dollars. Emergency room? 50 dollars. Need glasses so I can see to do my job correctly? No problem. I could afford them all of a sudden instead of having to get disqualified from doing the only job I've ever done for the last 25 years.

Kinda sounds like the union did me good, eh?

Made a believer outta me.

I was getting paid like a cottonpicker for hauling cargo more precious than any other out on the road. Thanks to the union, I could now make a living doing that. I got paid what the job I was doing was worth.

I got reminded of the value of a union when I moved back down to The Shoals.
Suddenly I was back in 1986 again. Defective equipment, ancient drivers who could barely walk and breathe, much less safely operate a mutli-ton vehicle full of fragile freight.
REALLY lousy pay, no insurance (that any employee could actually afford), unsafe working conditions and a corrupt manager who just happened to be ripping off the company by misreporting drivers' hours, taking on unauthorized work-off the books- and pocketing the money, misreporting vehicle parts inventories to pocket money for those parts while the vehicles themselves were forced to run on bald, canvas flapping tires, running straight tap water in radiators instead of coolant mix, speedometers that didn't work, brakes that never got replaced when they wore past federal specs, air brake systems that leaked and were prone to failure, unfair work practices based upon favoritism instead of seniority or performance and just plain promoting dissent and lousy morale among employees. All for a pittance for a wage.

Comes this union rep again (different guy).. He tells me a story I've heard and lived before.

Here we go again.

The manager is no longer working there, the equipment is being repaired so that it complies with state and federal motor carrier regs. The company is happy now that no one is ripping them off anymore and we are now headed into contract negotiations with them for better wages and a few benefits, like medical insurance. (Dead drivers now have to fall down now as any driver found dead in an upright position will be immediately removed from the payroll.) Some drivers will no longer be able to make sweetheart deals with management to get 45 hours per week while other drivers are only allowed 10 or 15.

You can't convince me that unions are a bad thing because the reasons for their formation still exist today.

If you haven't figured out by now or don't remember what I've mentioned in other threads what I do for a living-I drive a school bus.

Now I know most of ya probably don't think much of us lowly school bus drivers-There's no prestige in the job- but I will tell ya this:

I don't care what the guy in the big, shiny rig is hauling down the road in his trailer-it can be repaired or replaced and everybody slaps each other on the back and life goes on. If I screw up and lose MY load? I dunno if I could live with myself. Nobody'd ever forgive me and lots of people's lives would never be the same.

I think it's pretty sad when the guy who transports my garbage makes more than I do to transport his children. I joined a union (again) to try to remedy that. I trained to do this job, I met and in some cases exceeded the qualifications for it. I care about what I'm doing and I've been doing it for a long time and I'm darn good at it. I believe I should be compensated accordingly for doing it.
That would never happen...Ever...without my labor union.

So, no. You can't tell me that unions are a bad or obsolete thing. Some of us still need them.
I worked in a union location for years, both as union and as management. While I am not a big fan of many unions, I still believe they have a place in many workplaces. Even employees who do not have a union benefit from unions. Look at Walmart. Until recently, they paid their employees well and treated them decently (before Sam died). He believed if he took care of his employees, there would be no need for a union, and he was right for years. Now the kids (the brats) have taken over and could care less about the employees. The union movement within walmart is growning by leaps and bounds. Its only a matter of time.

Now look at Nissan and Toyota. They are mostly non union, mostly for the same reason as walmart. As long as they pay their employees the equivalent of a union shop, they will remain non union as well.

Employees have realized that sometimes unions are a necessity, but they have also realized that they are not the perfect answer either. Unions tend to 'magnify' laziness in employees. Its not really the unions fault (they dont tell employees to be lazy in most cases), its just a lazy employee that would normally do just enough to get by will do even less because of the disciplinary process. And then, when they get near the end of that process, they go back to doing just enough for the 90 or so days until the process resets. What happens is most other employees take pride in the work and naturally take up the slack of that employee. Some of those employees taking up the slack have less seniority, so when another better job comes up, the less senior employees that are pulling the lazy persons slack see that lazy person get the job. It gets very frustrating to those less senior people, and, truth be told, the lazy person didnt deserve to be in a better job, seniority or not.

Now, what I firmly dont agree with is the push to remove the secret ballot thats in congress now. Unions want to be able to unionize through the card method. Problem is, everyone knows who turns in a card and peer pressure can cause people who would normally say 'no' in a secret ballot to sign a card. If unions are as important as they think they are, why cant they organize under the laws they've been organizing under for years and years? All the sudden they lose strength because the average worker votes them down, so they want to change the rules.

Jeepin'
if the company gives good pay and offers decent benefits, there's no need for a union for their employees.

if they don't offer good pay and benefits, QUIT. if they can't keep enough employees to do business, they'll shut down, as they deserve.

I'm sorry Puppy, but i'm not going to be able to agree here.
i like you a lot, but i've never seen anything worthwhile brought about by a labor union.

perhaps a lot of it depends on the union.

i personally know a guy who lives in detroit. he does/did work for one of the major auto plants, and a proud member of the UAW.

he sat at a little computer control console, by a conveyer belt. he counted some item as they went past. if there were a certain number, he hit a green button every fifteen minutes or so to let the system know all was well. if he failed to hit it with the little light turned on, the system stopped - a fail safe. if there were more or less of the item passing in a given time, he hit a little red button to stop the line so someone ELSE could come and figure out what the problem was.

that;'s it. every 15 minutes he pushed a little green button. 100% paid insurance. 1 hour paied lunch. sometimes he came in, and just sat in a room if his line was down, or they weren't running that day, watching tv or playing cards for 8 hours, with a paid lunch, and he still got every cent of his regular pay, as if he'd be sitting at his little console, slaving away with his once a quarter hour button push.

he made 28 bucks an hour. he refered to the company as ' the suckers' because they couldn't cut his pay or get rid of him short of hte plant closing.

he knew the UAW was ripping off the company on his behalf and it amused him to point it out.

you've clearly had a different experiance with unions, but form my point of view they are an outmoded throwback that is cause more harm to the country and economy than they are worth.
Years ago, I was posted to a DoD port facility in New Jersey. State authorities wouldn't let us dredge to bring in larger craft. The unions supported that decision as more smaller ships equaled more union labor. A GS-14 was actually a gumba paid just to keep the unions in line and pay off locals.

My report resulted in closure of the facility and re-assigning the work south. Pardon me if I remain skeptical of unions.
This is a very interesting discussion on the pros and cons of unions. The bottom line is if companies paid and treated their employees fairly, there would no longer be a need for unions.

Road Puppy,

I enjoyed your post. And there is honor in being a school bus driver; someone's got to deliver our precious cargo (children) to and from school. Only snobs would look down on it for lack of so-called prestige. I say whatever job you do, as long as you're honest, do your best and can sleep at night knowing you didn't hurt anyone - and it pays the bills - it's a good job. Smiler

I say the same about truck drivers. I'm sure it's difficult to drive those trucks for hours and hours...in all kinds of bad weather...through big city traffic...watching out for crazy people in cars who constantly cut you off. Maybe not a "prestigious" job either, but the drivers have my respect.
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Originally posted by Buttercup:
This is a very interesting discussion on the pros and cons of unions. The bottom line is if companies paid and treated their employees fairly, there would no longer be a need for unions.

Road Puppy,

I enjoyed your post. And there is honor in being a school bus driver; someone's got to deliver our precious cargo (children) to and from school. Only snobs would look down on it for lack of so-called prestige. I say whatever job you do, as long as you're honest, do your best and can sleep at night knowing you didn't hurt anyone - and it pays the bills - it's a good job. Smiler



Sorry.. Buttercup is right. i meant to say this in my last reply and got side tracked.

My kids ride the bus to school, so please don't for one minute think i'd ever look down on that job.
i trust people like you to get my children safely to and from school every day, and i know what you have to deal with (as far as the kid side of it goes).

whether or not we agree on the need for unions, you certainly have my thanks and respect for doing your best to keep our (my) children safe.
I agree with Nagle and Buttercup. I tried the truck driver thing. Passed the test, got the job and hated it. Not for me. These guys have my total respect. Remember everything around you got here on a truck. The only thing not delivered by a truck is a baby, but the supplies and tools to deliver that baby got here by truck.
You know it, Leo. As Merle Haggard once said, "The white line is the lifeline to a nation."

Nagel-My situation is one that a union is necessary for.

People that do the job I do have been getting paid and treated like old-tyme cottonpickers forever. Even after the qualification process and re-qualification process (I'm referring to the CDL qualifications and endorsements, NOT the joke that is the State of Alabama Dept Of Education certification process...) got more difficult
The guy you described...well...A $1.49 integrated circuit chip and a few discrete semiconductors and a relay or two could have done his job by the sound of it. Sounds like poor planning on the part of the company as to that particular stage of the process. (counting?).
[QUOTE]Originally posted by thenagel:
if the company gives good pay and offers decent benefits, there's no need for a union for their employees.

if they don't offer good pay and benefits, QUIT. if they can't keep enough employees to do business, they'll shut down, as they deserve."


I'm Sorry, but the addage of "If you don't like it here quit" just doesn't fly. The labor pool is huge in this country, and with the influx of illegal aliens into this country, it is growing larger by the day. This allows companies (such as Wal-Mart, Chicken plants etc.) to exploit their workers paying less than subsistance wages and little or no benefits, while the owners are becoming horribly rich on the sweat and toil of these exploited workers. People have the right to organize, and force these greedy owners to pay living wages to their employees regardless of how many people are waiting in line for their jobs. I for one am a proud member of the United Steel Workers, and I promise you I do much more than press a button for a living. The company I work for fights it's workers tooth and nail for every benefit we have, and we refuse to put our lives and safety on the line while the CEO of our company is continues to get filthy rich. Don't kid yourself. Those non-union facitlities who offer good benefits and pay do so because of the sacrifices of the union members. Those who don't, do it in spite of.

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