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Voters in one Nevada city are complaining that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's name was already checked when they went to cast their ballots in early voting Monday, according to Fox5Vegas.com.

Voters in Boulder City said they were trying to vote for Republican nominee Sharron Angle, but that Reid's name was checked when they got to the electronic voting machines.

"Something's not right," voter Joyce Ferrara told the network, saying several people reported the same problem. "One person that's a fluke. Two, that's strange. But several within a five-minute period of time -- that's wrong."

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The Black Panther case was dropped because there were no complaints by any voters, or potential voters, a key component of the law.

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On the issue of poll watchers, one of the witnesses at the first hearing of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Chris Hill, testified on that specific point and what happened when he got to the polling place. He was responding to a desperate phone call for help from one of the two black poll watchers who were stationed at the polling place:

HILL: [Shabazz] immediately started with ‘What are you doing here, Cracker?’ And he and Mr. Jackson attempted to close ranks. I went straight between them through the door to find our poll watcher, who was inside the building at the time…he was pretty shaken up…he was visibly upset.

QUESTION: What did he tell you?

HILL: He was called a race traitor for being a poll watcher, credentialed poll watcher for the Republican Party as a black man, and that he was threatened if he stepped outside of the building, there would be hell to pay.

So there is witness testimony that both Black Panthers, including the one who was dismissed by the Justice Department, were physically threatening a poll watcher. And the witnesses made it clear that the two Black Panthers acted as a team, in concert, at the polling place.

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U.S. Civil Rights Commissioner: New Black Panthers harassed black GOP'er too

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Updated 8:30 PM EST 7/6/10

J. Christian Adams, former Department of Justice lawyer, testified before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission on Tuesday detailing how the DOJ willfully dropped the ball on the 2008 black panther
voter intimidation case.

U.S. Civil Rights Commissioner Ashley Taylor told Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly that it was not just white voters who were intimidated by the New Black Panthers in Philadelphia during the 2008 election year. He talks about a black Republican poll watcher who was also harassed by the Black Panthers who were standing in front of a Philadelphia polling station:

"There is a black victim that is often ignored. He was an African-American male, an older gentlemen who lived in the neighborhood in that part of Philadelphia, who was a poll watcher and happened to be a Republican poll watcher, and he was intimidated. He was told by these folks wielding batons not to show his face, and he was terrorized, and we have evidence to that effect. It's the type of evidence that that would have been offered up to the judge in support of the motion had it been allowed to go forward, so this can't be easily marginalized by claiming only white victims are involved. These are African-Americans who decide to participate in our political process and who have identified themselves as Republicans. These are also the type of people who are being ignored."

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On the issue of voters, Hill testified as follows:

QUESTION: How were third parties reacting to the presence and the actions of the Panther members?

HILL: People were put off when – there were a couple of people that walked up, a couple of people that drove up, and they would come to a screeching halt because it’s not something you expect to see in front of a polling place. As I was standing on the corner, I had two older ladies and an older gentleman stop right next to me, ask what was going on. I said, ‘Truthfully, we don’t really know. All we know is there’s two Black Panthers here.’ And the lady said, ‘Well, we’ll just come back.’ And so, they walked away.

Of course, no one knows if those voters ever came back – but we know for sure that they left without voting when Hill was there rather than try to get by the New Black Panthers. What is so odd about this is that Hill was then questioned about that testimony by Commissioner Abby Thernstrom, who has been one of the persons claiming there is no evidence that voters were kept from voting:

THERNSTROM: But otherwise, did you see anybody at the polling place who obviously intended to vote, and didn’t end up voting because of the presence of the New Black Panther Party members?

HILL: It was two women and a gentleman….They stopped right at the corner of the driveway, circular drive, where I was standing on the phone, and they said, ‘What’s going on?’ Truthfully, I didn’t really have a good answer for them…But at that exact moment in time, those people were not going near that doorway, and ma’am, I’m not as well versed as you are in these civil rights issues, but they were intimidated.

Bartle Bull, one of the other poll watchers who came to the precinct after the black poll watchers who were stationed there reported they had been threatened, testified on this point also:

BULL: One of them was waving a baton like that, slapping against his hand, pointing at people. And several people – I was more or less at the end of the driveway, and several people began to walk up the driveways, saw these guys, and then went back and didn’t go on to vote.

QUESTION: Did the individuals that you saw turn around, those were people that you believed were coming to vote?

BULL: Oh, yes, yes. That’s the only reason you walk along that long block on the pavement, and then go in the long driveway. And several walked in, saw this at the door, and walked back out the drive.

Keep in mind that Bull and Hill were only at the polling place for about an hour, and in that short amount of time they saw several people turn around and leave rather than run the thug gauntlet set up at the front door to the polling place. And there is no question that the poll watchers stationed inside the precinct were terrified because of the threats that had been made against them by the New Black Panthers.

So why haven’t any witnesses who were actual voters come forward? I talked to Chris Hill after his testimony before the Civil Rights Commission. As someone who knows Philadelphia and that neighborhood where these New Black Panthers live, he said that if he lived there he would be probably be too scared to come forward with testimony that crossed the NBPP. In short, intimidated voters often stay intimidated

It is time, once and for all, for critics of this case to stop claiming there is no evidence of intimidation – the evidence is there in the record for anyone who bothers to actually look for it. And it is not even necessary to win a case for attempted intimidation – and no one can rationally claim there was not an attempt to intimidate. Don’t forget a crucial point that keeps getting missed – the New Black Panthers never contested any of these charges.

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A Justice Department prosecutor defied his superiors by testifying at a U.S. Civil Rights Commission hearing Friday, where he leveled an explosive allegation: top officials in the department gutted a voter intimidation case against a fringe African American militant group because the suspects were black and their alleged victims were white.

The prosecutor, Christopher Coates, also said the downgrading of the case against the New Black Panther Party was evidence of a Justice Department culture which discouraged “race neutral” enforcement of civil rights laws, frowned on prosecuting minority perpetrators and folded under pressure from black and Latino rights groups. After President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder took office, the culture intensified, Coates told the panel, ultimately leading to his departure as chief of the voting rights section early this year.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...6.html#ixzz13a2XsBlP

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Bucks County, Pa. – Last week, it came to light that voters in southeastern Pennsylvania’s 8th district were receiving notices warning that their right to vote could be in jeopardy if they did not return an absentee ballot to the “Pennsylvania Voter Assistance Office,” a fictitious agency headquartered at a post office box. The letters, shown below, were underwritten by the Pennsylvania Democratic State Committee.

“By failing to return the enclosed [absentee ballot],” warned the notice, “you may be placing your ability to participate in this year’s general election at risk.” The mailer contained a postage-paid envelope instructing voters to return their ballots to a post office box controlled by the Democratic Party.

That post office box, Battle ‘10 has learned, was controlled at least in part by Tim Persico, the campaign manager for Rep. Patrick Murphy. Persico was apparently listed as one of two authorized to access the post office box listed in the mailers.

The Pennsylvania GOP has released a photograph of the access list bearing Persico’s name, available here. The photograph was taken yesterday, Oct. 26, in Bristol, Pa.

At issue is whether Rep. Patrick Murphy was directly involved with the absentee ballot scheme, which is being investigated by the local district attorney’s office and has so far resulted in the rejection of at least 600 absentee ballots for “defects.”

The number of reject ballots, which is “significantly higher” than in previous years, has been reportedly fueled by errors including mismatching signatures and incorrect birth dates, indicators of potential fraud.

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) No person, whether acting under color of law or otherwise, shall intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for voting or attempting to vote, or intimidate, threaten, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for urging or aiding any person to vote or attempt to vote, or intimidate, threaten, or coerce any person for exercising any powers or duties under section 3(a), 6, 8, 9, 10, or 12(e).

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..nevermind. You dont know how the criminal justice system works,

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Justice Department Seeks Injunction Against New Black Panther Party
Lawsuit Seeks to Prohibit Voter Intimidation in Future Elections

WASHINGTON - The Justice Department today filed a lawsuit under the Voting Rights Act against the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense and three of its members alleging that the defendants intimidated voters and those aiding them during the Nov. 4, 2008, general election.

The complaint, filed in the United States District Court in Philadelphia, alleges that, during the election, Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were deployed at the entrance to a Philadelphia polling location wearing the uniform of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, and that Samir Shabazz repeatedly brandished a police-style baton weapon.

"Intimidation outside of a polling place is contrary to the democratic process," said Acting Assistant Attorney General Grace Chung Becker. "The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed to protect the fundamental right to vote and the Department takes allegations of voter intimidation seriously."

According to the complaint, party Chairman Malik Zulu Shabazz confirmed that the placement of Samir Shabazz and Jackson in Philadelphia was part of a nationwide effort to deploy New Black Panther Party members at polling locations on Election Day. The complaint alleges a violation of Section 11(b) of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which prohibits intimidation, coercion or threats against "any person for voting or attempting to vote." The Department seeks an injunction preventing any future deployment of, or display of weapons by, New Black Panther Party members at the entrance to polling locations.

The New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, which claims active chapters nationwide, is distinct from the Black Panther Party founded by Bobby Seale in the 1960s.

The Civil Rights Division enforces the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To file complaints about discriminatory voting practices, including acts of harassment or intimidation, voters may call the Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division at 1-800-253-3931. More information about the Voting Rights Act and other federal voting laws is available on the Department of Justice’s web site at www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/index.htm.

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Short version of trial:

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If I were to guess, the New Black Panthers planned to be convicted and immediately appeal to a higher federal court, as a political demonstration.

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Citizens have a right to face their accuser my USA, but not in yours. Doenst that make you the fascist???

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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
I challenge you to state the fact that demonstrates I'm being hypocritical about a legal issue. Not what you suppose might be my opinion, but an actual opinion, otherwise you're just rationalizing your inability to understand what constitutes proof in a court.

To prove your analogy concerning the KKK impersonation, I suggest you try it and post the resulting response.

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Originally posted by JuanHunt:
But, I am far from a leftist, I am a real conservative, which means I'm anti Dem and anti-Rep,

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Look through some of juan's posts and you will quickly realize he is no conservative.

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Originally posted by teyates:
My guess is that a lot of the "undead" will hang around after Halloween to "vote early and vote often" in the Democrat line. The "hearsts" will be driven by SEIU members.

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My guess is that a lot of the "undead" will hang around after Halloween to "vote early and vote often" in the Democrat line. The "hearsts" will be driven by SEIU members.

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Originally posted by JuanHunt:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Look through some of juan's posts and you will quickly realize he is no conservative.

I am not a mindless "follow the Limbaugh" conservative like every so-called conservative that visits this forum, including you.

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N.Y. Daily News Unearths 'Stunning' Democrat Vote Fraud

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - About 46,000 people, most of them Democrats, are illegally registered to vote in New York City and in Florida, the liberal New York Daily News reported today.

"The finding is even more stunning given the pivotal role Florida played in the 2000 presidential election, when a margin there of 537 votes tipped a victory to George W. Bush."

And the investigation doesn't include other states or even the suburbs of New York.

The pro-Kerry paper said that efforts to prevent such fraud "rely mostly on the honor system." That's a serious flaw when people who have no honor are involved.

Sixty-eight percent of those registered to vote in both states are Democrats. Sixteen percent did not list a party, and only 12 percent are Republicans.

The paper determined that 400 to 1,000 New Yorkers had voted twice in at least one election, "a federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine."

A possible solution: a national voter registration system with federally assigned ID numbers. Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University in Washington, told the paper: "I don't think the country is ready for that. It may well be that a few hundred people spilling over and voting twice may be an inevitable friction within the system."

Even if it results in a repeat of the stolen presidential election of 1960?

A reader from Plymouth Meeting, Pa., who sent us this tip wrote: "The Democrats are obviously the party of vote fraud, by a more than 5 to 1 margin. Why aren't these people being punished? The Justice Department SHOULD investigate and PROSECUTE (senior citizens or not, they belong in JAIL)!"

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In New Mexico, there is a history of razor-thin election margins, magnifying the impact of any potential fraud. At the end of election night in 2000, George W. Bush led by four votes. After discovering a box of misplaced ballots, officials declared Al Gore the winner by fewer than 400 votes out of about 600,000 cast. And in 2004, President Bush beat John Kerry by about 6,000 votes in the state.

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Originally posted by b50m:

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Originally posted by JuanHunt:

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Originally posted by ferrellj:
Look through some of juan's posts and you will quickly realize he is no conservative.

I am not a mindless "follow the Limbaugh" conservative like every so-called conservative that visits this forum, including you.

For your information, I have never once listened to Rush. I don't like him. Same with Sean Hannity.
So for you to lump us all together shows you are about as conservative as rocky. And maybe as smart.

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I hate the radicals from both sides.

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Originally posted by rocky:

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I hate the radicals from both sides.

Self hate? A woman who defends the beating up of another woman for political purposes is not a radical? How about hypocrite. How about liar. How about stupid. Yeah I can get as 5th grade as the rest of you teabaggers, and nobody said they didn't bow at the throne of Glenn Beck. Picking and choosing your propoganda from Fox I guess.