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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
Saltines can be pretty tasty, as well as filling...if you're starving. I can remember when I would have been glad to have a cracker to eat.

A job at Wal-Mart is head over heels better than begging, or going on welfare.


I agree Sassy! And it doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence to get hired on in some cases/positions, so that will help alot of people!
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
Saltines can be pretty tasty, as well as filling...if you're starving. I can remember when I would have been glad to have a cracker to eat.

A job at Wal-Mart is head over heels better than begging, or going on welfare.


Unfortunately, not for those who think they are entitled to draw welfare and live off those who do work.

As rich as the Walton's seem to be, I don't envision China taking them over...other than as a product supplier.
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
This is what Wal-Mart likes to do. As more people hit the poverty level, Wal-Mart thrives. I shouldn't even bother mentioning it because most of you don't care, but they do abuse poor Chinese workers. As long as you can get your widget a little cheaper it is ok, right?


So you'd take the side of the Chinese over a hard working, family supporting American who just wants to earn his paycheck?

The Chinese who manufacture goods for Wal-Mart do so in factories approved by their government, at wages comparable to the ones earned at similar jobs in their country.

As long as the American worker is unemployed, you are good with that. That way, the US government can become big and bloated, and provide for us all.
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Getting a job at wal-mart is like giving a starving person a saltine. I can't wait until the government takes over Wal-Mart. When that day comes, I'll start shopping there again.



When the guv'ment takes over Wally World a few saltines may be all one can afford after taxes. When your jackboot paradise arrives, we won't need alarm clocks since the noise of the marching Obama Corps will wake us up in the morning. At least the "Useless Eaters" will be safe this time since they are part of the power base of Obama.
Walmart is good for young people in college to take advantage of the shifts that flex with class schedules. It is also good for a second job. Then 150 stores means 150 managers. Walmart managers I understand can make 70k or more. It is a high pressure position. One of my good friends was a Walmart manager and the stress was more than he could take.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
This is what Wal-Mart likes to do. As more people hit the poverty level, Wal-Mart thrives. I shouldn't even bother mentioning it because most of you don't care, but they do abuse poor Chinese workers. As long as you can get your widget a little cheaper it is ok, right?


So you'd take the side of the Chinese over a hard working, family supporting American who just wants to earn his paycheck?

The Chinese who manufacture goods for Wal-Mart do so in factories approved by their government, at wages comparable to the ones earned at similar jobs in their country.

As long as the American worker is unemployed, you are good with that. That way, the US government can become big and bloated, and provide for us all.


You just totally missed the point of my post. I'm the anti Wal-Mart guy here. I'm against unfair trade. If I made our economic policy, every American would have a job with a decent wage. It is the right wingers that want to keep so many Americans in poverty.
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
This is what Wal-Mart likes to do. As more people hit the poverty level, Wal-Mart thrives. I shouldn't even bother mentioning it because most of you don't care, but they do abuse poor Chinese workers. As long as you can get your widget a little cheaper it is ok, right?


So you'd take the side of the Chinese over a hard working, family supporting American who just wants to earn his paycheck?

The Chinese who manufacture goods for Wal-Mart do so in factories approved by their government, at wages comparable to the ones earned at similar jobs in their country.

As long as the American worker is unemployed, you are good with that. That way, the US government can become big and bloated, and provide for us all.


You just totally missed the point of my post. I'm the anti Wal-Mart guy here. I'm against unfair trade. If I made our economic policy, every American would have a job with a decent wage. It is the right wingers that want to keep so many Americans in poverty.


Your post had no recognizable point. You're only anti Wal-Mart if it suits your socialist agenda...making every US citizen dependant on the government for jobs and sustenance.

Which part of the Constitution requires that the Government make sure jobs are available? As both an employee and employer, I don't want the goverment having anything to do with deciding what a "decent wage" is. I want to be paid according to what I'm worth...not some scale set by a fat cat politician who's never done a honest days work in his life.

And how is two entities agreeing in a business venture, with both being satisfied with the outcome, unfair trade?
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

Your post had no recognizable point. You're only anti Wal-Mart if it suits your socialist agenda...making every US citizen dependant on the government for jobs and sustenance.

Which part of the Constitution requires that the Government make sure jobs are available? As both an employee and employer, I don't want the goverment having anything to do with deciding what a "decent wage" is. I want to be paid according to what I'm worth...not some scale set by a fat cat politician who's never done a honest days work in his life.

And how is two entities agreeing in a business venture, with both being satisfied with the outcome, unfair trade?


Fine, work for beans if you want. I, however, want to make good money and not have less than 1% of our population controlling over 50% of our nation's wealth. We should spread the wealth.
It is unfair when we trade with countries that don't have comparable labor and wage laws to us.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

A job at Wal-Mart is head over heels better than begging, or going on welfare.


Often time they still will need public assistance.

Full-time workers are not eligible for insurance unless they are employed for six months and part-time is two years. (most workers are part time) The turnover rate for jobs is 44%, which is the normal retail average. The Premium costs are designed for senior citizens and young adults (people who are likely still covered by medicare or their parents) and more of their workers are receiving public assistance than the national average.

I worked there in the Shoals and in a larger city. Its a fine wage in the Shoals, but in larger cities its pretty common to see workers with multiple jobs or receiving assistance. It's great that they are offering jobs yes, but don't mistake it as everyone getting one getting off the public's payroll.
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

Your post had no recognizable point. You're only anti Wal-Mart if it suits your socialist agenda...making every US citizen dependant on the government for jobs and sustenance.

Which part of the Constitution requires that the Government make sure jobs are available? As both an employee and employer, I don't want the goverment having anything to do with deciding what a "decent wage" is. I want to be paid according to what I'm worth...not some scale set by a fat cat politician who's never done a honest days work in his life.

And how is two entities agreeing in a business venture, with both being satisfied with the outcome, unfair trade?


Fine, work for beans if you want. I, however, want to make good money and not have less than 1% of our population controlling over 50% of our nation's wealth. We should spread the wealth.
It is unfair when we trade with countries that don't have comparable labor and wage laws to us.


You can spread the wealth when you earn it. Otherwise, you're a thief, stealing from those who have earned it, to give it to others who haven't earned it.

Other countries set what rates are fair to them. The US has no right to dictate other countries labor and wage laws.
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:

You can spread the wealth when you earn it. Otherwise, you're a thief, stealing from those who have earned it, to give it to others who haven't earned it.



Ignore the facts if you wish. The gap between CEO and hourly worker pay has been getting wider and wider.


I am ignoring nothing. I just don't buy into your socialist views.

When the hourly worker begins taking the risks and paying the penance that a CEO does to get to the top, the hourly worker's salary will be comparable. As long as the hourly worker invests nothing but his labor, his salary will be as such.

Ever stopped to wonder why there is usually one CEO and thousands of workers at a corporation? One in a thousand is capable, qualified and willing to do what it takes to be a CEO.
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Wow, they don't have insurance benefits. Waaah, join the club. It's a paycheck and adding jobs is GREAT news.

A job at Wal-Mart or any other retail job DOES require intelligence, btw. If you want to really suck at your job, perhaps you don't need any, but otherwise it's a necessity. Wink


The point was that they'll still need government assistance. You can't in one instance say that any job will get people off of welfare, and then say it doesn't matter if they don't get benefits in another. Just as long as you are doing ok and Wal-mart drops the price of the things you like ever year right?
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Originally posted by ryokurin:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Wow, they don't have insurance benefits. Waaah, join the club. It's a paycheck and adding jobs is GREAT news.

A job at Wal-Mart or any other retail job DOES require intelligence, btw. If you want to really suck at your job, perhaps you don't need any, but otherwise it's a necessity. Wink


The point was that they'll still need government assistance. You can't in one instance say that any job will get people off of welfare, and then say it doesn't matter if they don't get benefits in another. Just as long as you are doing ok and Wal-mart drops the price of the things you like ever year right?


I survived for more than one year on minimum wage without any government assistance.

Was it hard? Yep. Did it make me a better person? I think so.

People can survive, and even prosper, without government assistance. I'm grateful that some forms of welfare are there as safety nets for those who need them...but they were never meant to be a hammock.
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by ryokurin:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Wow, they don't have insurance benefits. Waaah, join the club. It's a paycheck and adding jobs is GREAT news.

A job at Wal-Mart or any other retail job DOES require intelligence, btw. If you want to really suck at your job, perhaps you don't need any, but otherwise it's a necessity. Wink


The point was that they'll still need government assistance. You can't in one instance say that any job will get people off of welfare, and then say it doesn't matter if they don't get benefits in another. Just as long as you are doing ok and Wal-mart drops the price of the things you like ever year right?


I survived for more than one year on minimum wage without any government assistance.

Was it hard? Yep. Did it make me a better person? I think so.

People can survive, and even prosper, without government assistance. I'm grateful that some forms of welfare are there as safety nets for those who need them...but they were never meant to be a hammock.


Provide jobs and a decent wage and I'll not gripe about taking away welfare.
Did you do it in the Shoals? then yes its possible as the cost of living is low. Not so in a large city.

$4 a hour, 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year is $8,320 before taxes. Since housing shouldn't be more than 33% of your income $2746 is gone. that comes out to around $229 a month. If I recall it's doable to find a residence around that price in the shoals area. Not so in Atlanta. Low income housing is around $500 without section 8, or $6000 a year. That's around 39% of your income if you make 8 a hour, which is what McDonalds, and Wal-Mart for that matter pays starting out. After a year you may get it up to 8.50 if you work hard and blessed to get it.

I'm not going to even get into transportation costs.

When I did two years at Wal-Mart in Atlanta I didn't take assistance, but I was young didn't have children, had roommates no car and no major expenses. Not everyone has that benefit. It's good that you did it too, and doing the math maybe still can, all I'm saying is that its a tall order elsewhere as you'll spend half your income just on having a place to stay and a bus pass to get to work. This is why most people working at wal-mart in large cities have two full time jobs if they have a family, at least in my tour they did.
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Originally posted by ryokurin:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Wow, they don't have insurance benefits. Waaah, join the club. It's a paycheck and adding jobs is GREAT news.

A job at Wal-Mart or any other retail job DOES require intelligence, btw. If you want to really suck at your job, perhaps you don't need any, but otherwise it's a necessity. Wink


The point was that they'll still need government assistance. You can't in one instance say that any job will get people off of welfare, and then say it doesn't matter if they don't get benefits in another. Just as long as you are doing ok and Wal-mart drops the price of the things you like ever year right?


I'm sorry, you may have been born with a silver spoon in your mouth, but I wasn't. Neither my husband or I have a college degree and we've never been on welfare. We lived with less until a strong work ethic and learning at the school of hard knocks began to pay off. Wacky old fashioned idea, I know, but believe it or not, it works. Wink
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Originally posted by Zombie 9tails:
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Originally posted by Sassy Kims:
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Originally posted by ryokurin:
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Wow, they don't have insurance benefits. Waaah, join the club. It's a paycheck and adding jobs is GREAT news.

A job at Wal-Mart or any other retail job DOES require intelligence, btw. If you want to really suck at your job, perhaps you don't need any, but otherwise it's a necessity. Wink


The point was that they'll still need government assistance. You can't in one instance say that any job will get people off of welfare, and then say it doesn't matter if they don't get benefits in another. Just as long as you are doing ok and Wal-mart drops the price of the things you like ever year right?


I survived for more than one year on minimum wage without any government assistance.

Was it hard? Yep. Did it make me a better person? I think so.

People can survive, and even prosper, without government assistance. I'm grateful that some forms of welfare are there as safety nets for those who need them...but they were never meant to be a hammock.


Provide jobs and a decent wage and I'll not gripe about taking away welfare.


Two words - entitlement disease. You get what you work for. You want to be paid more, get a degree and/or work your way up like everybody else.

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