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WalMart corporate policy re: 'shoplifters' is once CONVICTED, said individual is BANNED from ALL WalMarts for 1 YEAR. If found in ANY WalMart during that 1-year period, that individual is charged with trespassing.

WalMart has a 'history' of dismissing 'long term employees'.

Several years ago, a WalMart prosecuted a shopper for 'eating a single grape' while grocery shopping.

Also...WalMart policy regarding 'wrongly scanned items' is SUPPOSED to be this: 'If the item scanned displays an incorrect price (too high), $3 is to be deducted from the cost of the item. If said item is UNDER $3, then the item is FREE.'
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Originally posted by rosie for president:
GoFish - you are really such an elitist. I have seen your responses and you come off as someone that thinks they are above the rest of us. Until you walk in someone's shoes you should refrain from being so judgemental!


If by "elitist" you mean someone who has no sympathy for people who make their own bed and sleep in it, you got me pegged!

I HAVE walked in those shoes. Those shoes sucked so badly that I went to work elsewhere. Working at various elsewheres sucked so badly that I finally went in business for myself. Now I walk in my own shoes and it hardly sucks at all.
I didnot think a person could get in trouble while an item was still inside the store. My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse. She has been diong it for years and not one person has ever said anything to her. I figured because she always paid for everything she had at the cash register and didnot take it out of the store. To be guilty a person has to go out the door with something not just have it in thier possession in the store. Otherwise my grandmother would have been in jail many times over.
GoFish -- you seem to value your customers more than your employees in your comments -- you may be doing yourself a disservice by treating your employees with such cynicism and negativity, often they are your best advertisement for you company and bring in business to you. If you aren't willing to let them shop on their lunch break or put something to the side to purchase later -- if you are going to be a pain about the "perks" of working somewhere, then why would they shop with you or invite family and friends to shop with you when they can just go to Best Buy or other similar store and get treated like crap from college kids. At least from a college kid you expect them to be an ass...
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
I've a cousin that has been in retail for over 30 years with an impeccable work record.
She's been at WM (Florence) for the last 15* years and was making top money (considering it was WM)....until today. The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker* and was going to pay for it on her break. Next thing she knew she was being called into the office and accused of stealing then suspended four days without pay and escorted out of the store.
Today she had to go in and talk to internal affairs. She pointed out that what she did was a common practice and no different than when people eat a candy bar while shopping then have the wrapper scanned so it can be paid for. Some even do it with things like popcorn chicken.
Internal affairs claimed people that do that are shoplifters and are always caught and charged. HA.
So today she was offcially charged with shoplifting, fired and escorted from the store, again. And her excellent work record is no longer excellent.
She's 49, never married, no kids, extremely intelligent and she has a wonderful phone voice. She's worked the WM phone-line for the past two years. Also, everyone that knows her knows she's a good person.
I told her i would spread the word about what happened and figured this would be a good place to do it.
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* please see corrections on page 2.


I am so sorry for the comment I made on the 1st page, It was before I had all the facts and thank you for correcting them. Walmart was WRONG in her termination.
if it was laying there in plain sight and she had not left the store with it, How could it be thief? If they call that thief and the merchandise DID NOT leave the store who is to say they could not do that to me or any of the other customer with our buggy's full. I am outraged at this. Let me know if their is anything I can do. sign a partition or boycott whatever just let me know.THIS WAS WRONG AND WALMART NEEDS TO KNOW THIS.

I have shopped at walmart since they have opened I have 2 aunts and a cousin that works there.I agree at whoever said that it has went down since Sam Walton died they are so right. I bet that poor man is turning over in his grave at how his company is being run.

In my opinion I would get a lawyer and see if something can not be done just to let them know this will not happen to anyone else.

Again I apologize for my comment earlier.
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Originally posted by GinaLuvsTim07:
My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse.


Perhaps that not illegal but that sure is quirky. If there isn't a law against that, there probably should be. Your granny might want to check on that. Why in the world would she do that?

In any case, WM employees are not retail customers. They fall under a different sent of rules while working their shift.

In Alabama, you can and will be fired for anything any time and you don't have a legal leg to stand on.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by GinaLuvsTim07:
My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse.


Perhaps that not illegal but that sure is quirky. If there isn't a law against that, there probably should be. Your granny might want to check on that. Why in the world would she do that?

In any case, WM employees are not retail customers. They fall under a different sent of rules while working their shift.

In Alabama, you can and will be fired for anything any time and you don't have a legal leg to stand on.



Alabama law is a joke when it comes to protecting the employer over the employee. That is why buttholes can make whatever pompous rules over their employees that they want and if they get out of line or question they can be fired for any nit picky thing. I don't like Walmart and do not shop there. I stopped buying groceries there over two years ago and haven't been back. May you and your business profit as much as your employees benefit from working for you.(This being from your aforementioned rules.)What business do you own so I can go ahead and add it the boycott list?!?! Wink
GoFish I will admit my grandmother is quirky but she isnot a thief. She has done that all my life at every store we have gone to. Some stores know her and her anctics but others see her emptying her handbag and say nothing. An off duty policeman told me one time that if she didnot take it out of the store that there wasnot a crime. Quirky or not I love her.
GTO I am sure your grandmother is honest, but this is still not a good practice if she is at the senior moment age. Last week I thought I had 4 limes in the bag provided for fruit I only saw 3 as did the checker. AS I turned to put my basket back and leave the store the 4th lime rolled from under the baby seat which I use as a shelf. I said oh, there is the other lime and overpaid for it so I did not have to stand in line again. Things do happen and everyone may not know her or be nice. I most definitely could have been challenged...though completely innocent.
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Originally posted by DixieChik:
GoFish -- you seem to value your customers more than your employees in your comments -- you may be doing yourself a disservice by treating your employees with such cynicism and negativity,


Oh, I don't. I don't need to. My employees know that I would give them the shirt off my back. I was only explaining what kinds of policies I WOULD have IF my employees were responsible for stealing 10% of my salary.

If my employees steal from my company, they steal from me personally. I take that quite seriously.

But they don't so I don't. Wink
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Originally posted by GTO4ever:
Quirky or not I love her.


No doubt there. To me, though, this handbag thing is akin to walking under a ladder. Not a big deal but you don't wanna tempt fate any more than possible.

If I saw her doing that, I'd darn sure narc on her. I'm surprised she hasn't been politely asked to stop that.

Oh well.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker


Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired.

It sounds like your friend is trying to make up an excuse for her actions to avoid embarrassment over getting caught stealing. If she had full intentions of paying for it, she should have picked up the ribbon as she was leaving the store and paid for it like everyone else. Simple as that.


Boy! That's really telling them! First of all, little fish, you obviously do not know the person who this rant is about. I have known her for 40 years. She's one of the best people I have ever met and you should be ashamed of yourself. People like you should work for WM security since you are such a great judge of character! Actually, people like you, who judge others whom they don't even know should go back to your mommy's basement and stay there until you can behave.
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Originally posted by gr8songwriter:
GoFish,
I've read several of your entries and you appear to be nothing more than a trouble making, un-educated, low life idiot. You sound like Wal-Mart management material to me. And I hope and pray that you get falsely accused of stealing, too.
Get a life, you moron.


gr8songwriter: I'm sorry but I agree with GoFish. Also I know for a fact that Wal-mart cannot get you for stealing UNTIL you have left the store, as in OUTSIDE, before they can get you for shoplifting. You can call any store in the Shoals area or the police & they will tell you the same thing. Why do you tell him to "Get a Life" & call names? Is he, I or anyone else here not entitled to our opinion just as you are?? Some of the people here, including you, are so quick to call us names if we stop outside "the zone" & dis-agree. There is more to this story than is being told. Are you going to call me names too?
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Originally posted by smurph:
i got to add a comment about Walmart here. i stopped shopping there a good while ago. One week i had bought black pepper,a reasonably cheap item among many others. When i got home I went over my purchase slip,charged twice for the pepper. Okay an easy enough mistake. Two weeks later I am back shpping again, lo and behold when i get home there is another low cost item charged for twice. I called the manager,they were polite and asked for me to return with my sales slip. Like i am going to drive all the way back to Walmart for $0.99! This all got me to thinking,what a profit if they double charge a low cost item ,oh lets say every third customer,,,,what monies would be had for the Walmart empire. And i am not saying its the cashiers either,it could very well be programed into their computer check out systems.
So no more shopping at Walmart for me,,at all!!


The same thing has happened to me before. I always keep my receipt with me so that when I go back I can call it to their attention. They've always been very nice about it and gave my money back. It can happen anywhere, not just Wal-mart.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
according to the guidelines they used to fire her anyone in the store in possession of an item they have not yet paid for can be charged with stealing.



So now we understand that there is a official guideline that stipulates that one should not conceal or otherwise "possess" an item unless they are headed for the cashier to pay for it.

Sounds reasonable to me.

If I were to own a retail store (and I kinda do) where employees are the main source of corruption and theft, I'd have some pretty stiff rules, too.

My employee handbook would look something like this:

Employees should shop at the store during their off-duty hours. I don't gave a dang if you need to 50 cent ribbon, you can pick it up after your shift. If it was the last ribbon, well, that ribbon is for my regular customers, not my employees. If it's still there after your shift, you are welcome to it. I'll even give you a discount.

You employees are my number one source of theft. Please do yourself a favor and don't even dare risk the appearance of even thinking about stealing something. This explicitly means don't stash something under your desk or anywhere else. After your shift, you may shop until you drop and pay for the item like everyone else.

If you violate and of these VERY REASONABLE rules, your butt will go work for Target.

Thank you,
The Management
I would like nothing more than to dog-cuss you right now and it is taking all of my restraint not to do so. Instead, I have some friendly advice for you...You really need to get on your knees and ask the Good Lord to forgive you because you, you poor, sad, little man, will sit before the One who truly knows your heart and you will be judged for what is (rather , is NOT) in your heart. And you parents should be ashamed of themselves for not teaching you respect, morality, ethics, and just plain old common sense. Or maybe you were just a rebellious little punk who didn't care about your parents enough to listen to them. I am a Christian, but people like you make it hard to hold my tongue. Maybe your mommy didn't nurse you as a baby. Maybe your daddy was too busy to play catch with you and you're simply lashing out at strangers to get back at them. Whatever the reason, you need to get a life, a heart, and some common decency. You want to know the saddest part?? You're too deeply ignorant, morally defective, and completely pathetic to even realize how ignorant, defective, and pathetic you are!
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
Here's a story for you:
Years ago I worked the State of Alabama. A supervisor had a Canon 35mm camera to disappear out of her office one day. Earlier that week, the same supervisor had played a practical joke on a fellow supervisor (hid the t-tops to her new car). The afternoon the camera went missing, I was working late. Before I left, I went to the bathroom. After washing my hands, I noticed my shoe was untied, so I propper my foot on the edge of the metal wastebasket to tie it (I was a little overweight and it was difficult for me to bend all the way over to tie my shoes... had to sit down or find something to prop my foot on) Anyway, the can turned over and when I went to sit it back up, it seemed a bit heavy. I pulled the plastic bag away from the can and found the camera between the bag and the can. I took the camera out and was headed back to the office (with my office keys in my hand)to call the supervisor and let her know I had found her camera. I was walking AWAY from the exits and back toward the offices. I was stopped by a security guard that had been hiding in a closet area outside the bathroom. It seems the camera had been found earlier, but left there by security in hopes whoever did it would come back for it. I was arrested, charged with 2nd degree theft of property and almost spent the night in jail (I was bailed out by a relative). As I was being driven off in the back of the police car, I noticed the co-worker who had the t-tops hidden earlier, was still there. The charges were reduced to a misdemeanor, but still.... the fact that I was arrested while walking AWAY FROM THE EXIT seemed to have no bearing on the situation. So, it seems you can be arrested and accused for stealing even if you are not headed toward and exit. A few years after all this transpired, I discovered through a former co-worker that the acutal culprit was the "t-topper" and she had planned on going back after the camera and put it back in the office, but when she saw the security guard with me, she got scared.

No one can tell me that crap like what happened to the former Wal-Mart employee doesn't go on every day. I think they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her so they could hire someone in at less money. I just hope she hires a lawyer and they can get hold of the security tapes showing the ribbon laying out in the open. She cold have been dishonest and claimed a customer laid it there, but she didn't. I wonder how Wal-Mart would like for this story to get to the newspaper?
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Thank you,
I would like nothing more than to dog-cuss you right now and it is taking all of my restraint not to do so. You really need to get on your knees and ask the Good Lord to forgive you. and just plain old common sense. I am a Christian,Maybe your mommy didn't nurse you as a baby. Maybe your daddy was too busy to play catch with you. You're too deeply ignorant, morally defective, and completely pathetic to even realize how ignorant, defective, and pathetic you are![/QUOTE]

musician2226: AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN????? All because he gave his opinion? And his opinion wasn't yours?????
You should be ashamed of yourself! God save me from so called Christians like you!!!!!! How so very, very sad.
Next time any of you shop at Wal-Mart, be careful... don't let the kids have anything to eat or drink until AFTER you leave the store. You may be accused of stealing a cup of popcorn chicken. I wish I had a penny for every time I saw a parent/grandparent/babysitter give a kid a donut, candy bar, or soda while they were still in the store, then present the empty wrapper/cup for payment. How does the cashier know there was only one donut eaten? Or just one soda drank(could have been 2 or 3 and the empties are hidden on the back of a shelf somewhere in the garden center). Wal-Mart had best put signs up to discourage this or they will wind up needing a lot more security guards to escort people from the store......
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Originally posted by zukerfuss:
I think they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her so they could hire someone in at less money.


Maybe they were looking for a reason to get rid of her because this has happened before. I'm not saying that's the case, only that it's possible.
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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Originally posted by zukerfuss:
Next time any of you shop at Wal-Mart, be careful... don't let the kids have anything to eat or drink until AFTER you leave the store. You may be accused of stealing a cup of popcorn chicken. I wish I had a penny for every time I saw a parent/grandparent/babysitter give a kid a donut, candy bar, or soda while they were still in the store, then present the empty wrapper/cup for payment. How does the cashier know there was only one donut eaten? Or just one soda drank(could have been 2 or 3 and the empties are hidden on the back of a shelf somewhere in the garden center). Wal-Mart had best put signs up to discourage this or they will wind up needing a lot more security guards to escort people from the store......


I've always gotten something at the deli for my grandkids to nibble on and to pay for on my way out. If a Manager walks by, I will explain what I did, and he has no problem with it.
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Taciturn, I take back anything unkind I have ever said to you or even thought about you. You, I think, are my kind of gal/guy?


No problem, Vick. We are adults & may not always agree, right? And that should be ok.
Oh, BTW, I'm a gal!! A real Southern belle!! lol
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
"Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired."

Incorrect.

Copied and pasted directly from GoFish's original post...
Well, Taciturn... let's see: The ribbon was laying out in plain sight of everyone and she intended to pay for it when she left later... you give your grandkids things to nibble on while in the store and tell a manager you intend to pay for it when you leave...see a parallel here? How does the manager know you even pay for it? The same way they should have known she was going to pay for the ribbon... it's called TRUST....

As for the comment one person made that it may have happended before... if it's happened before, why haven't they called her on it before?

I say they should prohibit employees from putting anything from off the floor in their lockers and put up signs telling shoppers they cannot open ANY type of package (be it popcorn chicken/sodas, or CD/DVDs) without paying for it first. That would keep all this from happening again.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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Also I know for a fact that Wal-mart cannot get you for stealing UNTIL you have left the store, as in OUTSIDE, before they can get you for shoplifting.


Then please call the store manager and remind him of that, he seems to have forgotten it.


I did, and I asked if that was the store's policy and he agreed that it is indeed Wal-mart's policy, AND the law that a shop lifter HAS to be outside the store. Law Enforcement also verified this.

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