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I've a cousin that has been in retail for over 30 years with an impeccable work record.
She's been at WM (Florence) for the last 15* years and was making top money (considering it was WM)....until today. The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker* and was going to pay for it on her break. Next thing she knew she was being called into the office and accused of stealing then suspended four days without pay and escorted out of the store.
Today she had to go in and talk to internal affairs. She pointed out that what she did was a common practice and no different than when people eat a candy bar while shopping then have the wrapper scanned so it can be paid for. Some even do it with things like popcorn chicken.
Internal affairs claimed people that do that are shoplifters and are always caught and charged. HA.
So today she was offcially charged with shoplifting, fired and escorted from the store, again. And her excellent work record is no longer excellent.
She's 49, never married, no kids, extremely intelligent and she has a wonderful phone voice. She's worked the WM phone-line for the past two years. Also, everyone that knows her knows she's a good person.
I told her i would spread the word about what happened and figured this would be a good place to do it.
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* please see corrections on page 2.
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I've worked there for five years, but you aren't going to see me defending them. That place is about as horribly managed as a store can be. IMO, things were a lot better under our former store manager Tammy, who was promoted to a district position over a year ago. The only reason I'm still there is I see no reason to change jobs until I graduate, which will be this May.

I'll assist y'all in spreading the word around. I already do all of my shopping at Target or other places. The lousy 10% discount (which can't be used on food) isn't enough for them to get any of my money.
Here's another interesting scam WM pulls. At their Mexico stores...they don't pay their sackers, they have kids 14-16 working as sackers for nothing. It is traditional in Mexico that the kids to donate their time (according to an article I read) to companies but considering the economic situation in Mexico wouldn't it be good public relations to go ahead and pay kids for their work? It seems inhumane and petty to me.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker


Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired.

It sounds like your friend is trying to make up an excuse for her actions to avoid embarrassment over getting caught stealing. If she had full intentions of paying for it, she should have picked up the ribbon as she was leaving the store and paid for it like everyone else. Simple as that.
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Originally posted by Smoothcat:
I've worked there for five years, but you aren't going to see me defending them.


So, you ought to be able to tell us: Do you personally take stuff from the floor and palce it in your locker so you can pay for it when you leave?

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I already do all of my shopping at Target or other places. The lousy 10% discount (which can't be used on food) isn't enough for them to get any of my money.


I'm also curious why you still work at Wal-Mart if it is such a terrible place to work? Why aren't you working at Target?
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
I've a cousin that has been in retail for over 30 years with an impeccable work record.
She's been at WM (Florence) for the last 15 years and was making top money (considering it was WM)....until today. The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker and was going to pay for it on her break. Next thing she knew she was being called into the office and accused of stealing then suspended four days without pay and escorted out of the store.
Today she had to go in and talk to internal affairs. She pointed out that what she did was a common practice and no different than when people eat a candy bar while shopping then have the wrapper scanned so it can be paid for. Some even do it with things like popcorn chicken.
Internal affairs claimed people that do that are shoplifters and are always caught and charged. HA.
So today she was offcially charged with shoplifting, fired and escorted from the store, again. And her excellent work record is no longer excellent.
She's 49, never married, no kids, extremely intelligent and she has a wonderful phone voice. She's worked the WM phone-line for the past two years. Also, everyone that knows her knows she's a good person.
I told her i would spread the word about what happened and figured this would be a good place to do it.
:::end of rant:::


If you think it would do any good, PM me her name and I will call the store manager and voice my concern with the mistreatment of a long term valued employee. I for one am guilty of drinking a drink in the store while I shop. Plus I never see them doing anything about the people who eat grapes, etc that you have to pay for by the pound. There is no better way to let our concern over this be know that to contact the management and make our protest heard.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker


Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired.

It sounds like your friend is trying to make up an excuse for her actions to avoid embarrassment over getting caught stealing. If she had full intentions of paying for it, she should have picked up the ribbon as she was leaving the store and paid for it like everyone else. Simple as that.

I have to agree with GoFish on this one, I hate that she got fired.Even if it is a practice all walmart employee do, it was wrong and she was one that got caught. You are to only put your personal stuff in your locker not merchandise from within the store.(Common sense)

My daughter eats popcorn chicken every time we go to walmart and I pay when I checkout so does that make me or my daughter a thief. NO, I would not think it was THIEF until I leave the store. thats a question for LAWGRL shes a lawyer.

If she thinks she was in the right then she needs to contact a Lawyer and see if she has a case
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PuckerupFrog, I am sorry that your cousin finds herself in this situation. Unfortunately, it comes down to whether she violated a known store policy. If she did, regardless of how many others did the same thing, they were justified in their actions. And it PAINS me to say that because I am an absolute Wal-Mart hater. I have a suit pending against them now, in fact. But these issues come down to store policy and whether that policy was violated.

I hope she finds a better place to work than that place!
A 15 year employee with an impeccable work record? I'm sorry but I just can't believe this. Why were they watching her in the first place? I can't see anyone firing a 15 year employee over 50 cents if she had "an impeccable work record". I could see her being suspended for 4 days without pay but firing her? There's more going on here than she's telling you, or than you're telling us.
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Originally posted by JustMe:
If you think it would do any good, PM me her name and I will call the store manager and voice my concern with the mistreatment of a long term valued employee. I for one am guilty of drinking a drink in the store while I shop. Plus I never see them doing anything about the people who eat grapes, etc that you have to pay for by the pound. There is no better way to let our concern over this be know that to contact the management and make our protest heard.


I agree. I would love to asked mamgement about this too. I would like to hear their side of what happened. If she was going to pay for it on her break, was she not on break when she got the ribbon?
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Originally posted by SwindleMaster2007:
I personally know the woman who was let go and I know for a FACT she did NOTHING WRONG!


You mean other than trying to steal a 50 cent ribbon, right?

It doesn't take much of a rocket surgeon to know that regardless of what "others" do, you should not place something in a locker, coat pocket or other hidden place unless you want to get your butt fired.

I can't believe you folks would support this person.
BUT the fact remains BEFORE she had a opportunity to pay for the item they stopped her. The fact is this. Wal-Mart wants thier full-time people to quit. 1. So they will not have to pay benefits and 2. To hire cheaper people at a cheaper rate of pay. It does not take a rocket sceintist to figure that one. There are many on here who know the empolyee. She will continue to have my support and prayers. She will be working for a better place soon and very soon! TheSwindleMaster
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Originally posted by GoFish:
So, you ought to be able to tell us: Do you personally take stuff from the floor and palce it in your locker so you can pay for it when you leave?


I suppose I have a locker in the back, but I have never once used it, and couldn't tell you where it is. I don't take anything to work that I would need to use a locker for. Have I found something I wanted before, and put it at a register to buy when I finished my shift? Of course. Everybody in the store has done that before.

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I'm also curious why you still work at Wal-Mart if it is such a terrible place to work? Why aren't you working at Target?


I didn't really say it was a "terrible" place to work, just poorly managed. Why haven't I changed? I work part-time there (I have an internship as a second job), I probably make more money now than I could if I started somewhere else, and honestly, I'm just too lazy to make the change. If I had it to do over again I doubt I would ever go to work at Wal-Mart, but considering it's just paying a few bills for me until I finish college, I have better things to worry about.
SmoothCat my friend. Please tell my friends there to watch thier backs. You know the way they did me just tell em watch thier backs. The sweet wife is really having a tough time there but hanging in. She loves her everyday customers there BUT is really having a hard time. God Bless all of you. I know exactly what you are going through. Better days are coming when Jesus comes. TheSwindleMaster
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
Thank you for the good words, Swindlemaster.

WM will now turn around and hire someone to do her job at less than half of what she was earning. And she DID earn it. She has always been a hard worker.


Maybe she should appy for it.
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SmoothCat my friend. Please tell my friends there to watch thier backs. You know the way they did me just tell em watch thier backs.



You did get a raw deal.
No one there is safe. I've another cousin there that started working for WM when it was in the old location. She is one of the sweetest souls in the world. I was going to say i hope she watches her step, but with those folks if they want to get rid of you they'll do it "at will."
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:


You did get a raw deal.
No one there is safe. I've another cousin there that started working for WM when it was in the old location. She is one of the sweetest souls in the world. I was going to say i hope she watches her step, but with those folks if they want to get rid of you they'll do it "at will."


PuckerupFrog , you hit it right on the nail. Since they have moved it has not been the same.

One more important thing I'd like to add to your statement is , since Sam Walton died the whole company has gone to pots in my opinion.

Good ole Sam Walton took care of his employees as well as his customers.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
She didn't put the ribbon in her locker, it was at her work site and always in plain sight


I don't get it. What do you mean by "work site." Is her "work site" back int he warehouse? If so, what the heck was she thinking when she took merchandise back there? Why did she change her story from "locker" to "work site"?

I smell a rat.

The fact is this: WM has about 10% "shrinkage." The vast majority of this is from employee theft.
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This person is a thief...FIRE HER... I hate a thief...you know its always to easy to say I was going to pay for it...Thats a cop out



Florence Witch...Remember the "i was going to pay for it" line because according to the guidelines they used to fire her anyone in the store in possession of an item they have not yet paid for can be charged with stealing.
So when you're walking around inside the store with something you haven't paid for repeat to yourself "I am not a crook. I am not a crook."
And when they rightfully, by their rules, nab you before you have a chance to pay for it and escort you out of the store i'm sure saying "but i was going to pay for it" will clear things right up and they'll beg your forgiveness.....LOL.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
Thank you for the good words, Swindlemaster.

WM will now turn around and hire someone to do her job at less than half of what she was earning. And she DID earn it. She has always been a hard worker.


And she probably deserved better than WM a long time ago. While it seems awful now, sometimes the universe has to kick our butts to make us do what's best for us (I've been kicked more than once!)
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Originally posted by gr8songwriter:
GoFish,
I've read several of your entries and you appear to be nothing more than a trouble making, un-educated, low life idiot. You sound like Wal-Mart management material to me. And I hope and pray that you get falsely accused of stealing, too.
Get a life, you moron.


Before you two start a battle criticizing each other , just be disagreeable NOT critical.

Also read bluesman's post above.

You all have a good day. Big Grin
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Originally posted by Smoothcat:
Have I found something I wanted before, and put it at a register to buy when I finished my shift? Of course.


Of course. That is a little different form hiding something in a locker, in a "work area" outside the sale floor or otherwise CONCEALING the item/


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I'm also curious why you still work at Wal-Mart if it is such a terrible place to work? Why aren't you working at Target?


I didn't really say it was a "terrible" place to work, just poorly managed. Why haven't I changed? I work part-time there (I have an internship as a second job), I probably make more money now than I could if I started somewhere else, and honestly, I'm just too lazy to make the change. If I had it to do over again I doubt I would ever go to work at Wal-Mart, but considering it's just paying a few bills for me until I finish college, I have better things to worry about.[/QUOTE]

So the benefits of working FOR Wal-Mart seem to outweigh the benefits of leaving. Welcome to life. We all had to kiss a few toads before finding the prince (at least I did).

Thank for for supporting my belief that there is not a single soul that has ever been forced to work for Wal-Mart.
i got to add a comment about Walmart here. i stopped shopping there a good while ago. One week i had bought black pepper,a reasonably cheap item among many others. When i got home I went over my purchase slip,charged twice for the pepper. Okay an easy enough mistake. Two weeks later I am back shpping again, lo and behold when i get home there is another low cost item charged for twice. I called the manager,they were polite and asked for me to return with my sales slip. Like i am going to drive all the way back to Walmart for $0.99! This all got me to thinking,what a profit if they double charge a low cost item ,oh lets say every third customer,,,,what monies would be had for the Walmart empire. And i am not saying its the cashiers either,it could very well be programed into their computer check out systems.
So no more shopping at Walmart for me,,at all!!
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
according to the guidelines they used to fire her anyone in the store in possession of an item they have not yet paid for can be charged with stealing.



So now we understand that there is a official guideline that stipulates that one should not conceal or otherwise "possess" an item unless they are headed for the cashier to pay for it.

Sounds reasonable to me.

If I were to own a retail store (and I kinda do) where employees are the main source of corruption and theft, I'd have some pretty stiff rules, too.

My employee handbook would look something like this:

Employees should shop at the store during their off-duty hours. I don't gave a dang if you need to 50 cent ribbon, you can pick it up after your shift. If it was the last ribbon, well, that ribbon is for my regular customers, not my employees. If it's still there after your shift, you are welcome to it. I'll even give you a discount.

You employees are my number one source of theft. Please do yourself a favor and don't even dare risk the appearance of even thinking about stealing something. This explicitly means don't stash something under your desk or anywhere else. After your shift, you may shop until you drop and pay for the item like everyone else.

If you violate and of these VERY REASONABLE rules, your butt will go work for Target.

Thank you,
The Management
WalMart corporate policy re: 'shoplifters' is once CONVICTED, said individual is BANNED from ALL WalMarts for 1 YEAR. If found in ANY WalMart during that 1-year period, that individual is charged with trespassing.

WalMart has a 'history' of dismissing 'long term employees'.

Several years ago, a WalMart prosecuted a shopper for 'eating a single grape' while grocery shopping.

Also...WalMart policy regarding 'wrongly scanned items' is SUPPOSED to be this: 'If the item scanned displays an incorrect price (too high), $3 is to be deducted from the cost of the item. If said item is UNDER $3, then the item is FREE.'
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Originally posted by rosie for president:
GoFish - you are really such an elitist. I have seen your responses and you come off as someone that thinks they are above the rest of us. Until you walk in someone's shoes you should refrain from being so judgemental!


If by "elitist" you mean someone who has no sympathy for people who make their own bed and sleep in it, you got me pegged!

I HAVE walked in those shoes. Those shoes sucked so badly that I went to work elsewhere. Working at various elsewheres sucked so badly that I finally went in business for myself. Now I walk in my own shoes and it hardly sucks at all.
I didnot think a person could get in trouble while an item was still inside the store. My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse. She has been diong it for years and not one person has ever said anything to her. I figured because she always paid for everything she had at the cash register and didnot take it out of the store. To be guilty a person has to go out the door with something not just have it in thier possession in the store. Otherwise my grandmother would have been in jail many times over.
GoFish -- you seem to value your customers more than your employees in your comments -- you may be doing yourself a disservice by treating your employees with such cynicism and negativity, often they are your best advertisement for you company and bring in business to you. If you aren't willing to let them shop on their lunch break or put something to the side to purchase later -- if you are going to be a pain about the "perks" of working somewhere, then why would they shop with you or invite family and friends to shop with you when they can just go to Best Buy or other similar store and get treated like crap from college kids. At least from a college kid you expect them to be an ass...
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
I've a cousin that has been in retail for over 30 years with an impeccable work record.
She's been at WM (Florence) for the last 15* years and was making top money (considering it was WM)....until today. The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker* and was going to pay for it on her break. Next thing she knew she was being called into the office and accused of stealing then suspended four days without pay and escorted out of the store.
Today she had to go in and talk to internal affairs. She pointed out that what she did was a common practice and no different than when people eat a candy bar while shopping then have the wrapper scanned so it can be paid for. Some even do it with things like popcorn chicken.
Internal affairs claimed people that do that are shoplifters and are always caught and charged. HA.
So today she was offcially charged with shoplifting, fired and escorted from the store, again. And her excellent work record is no longer excellent.
She's 49, never married, no kids, extremely intelligent and she has a wonderful phone voice. She's worked the WM phone-line for the past two years. Also, everyone that knows her knows she's a good person.
I told her i would spread the word about what happened and figured this would be a good place to do it.
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* please see corrections on page 2.


I am so sorry for the comment I made on the 1st page, It was before I had all the facts and thank you for correcting them. Walmart was WRONG in her termination.
if it was laying there in plain sight and she had not left the store with it, How could it be thief? If they call that thief and the merchandise DID NOT leave the store who is to say they could not do that to me or any of the other customer with our buggy's full. I am outraged at this. Let me know if their is anything I can do. sign a partition or boycott whatever just let me know.THIS WAS WRONG AND WALMART NEEDS TO KNOW THIS.

I have shopped at walmart since they have opened I have 2 aunts and a cousin that works there.I agree at whoever said that it has went down since Sam Walton died they are so right. I bet that poor man is turning over in his grave at how his company is being run.

In my opinion I would get a lawyer and see if something can not be done just to let them know this will not happen to anyone else.

Again I apologize for my comment earlier.
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Originally posted by GinaLuvsTim07:
My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse.


Perhaps that not illegal but that sure is quirky. If there isn't a law against that, there probably should be. Your granny might want to check on that. Why in the world would she do that?

In any case, WM employees are not retail customers. They fall under a different sent of rules while working their shift.

In Alabama, you can and will be fired for anything any time and you don't have a legal leg to stand on.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by GinaLuvsTim07:
My grandmother always takes a large handbag to Wal-Mart with her that only contains her billfold and keys and tissue and she puts everything she is going to buy inside her purse.


Perhaps that not illegal but that sure is quirky. If there isn't a law against that, there probably should be. Your granny might want to check on that. Why in the world would she do that?

In any case, WM employees are not retail customers. They fall under a different sent of rules while working their shift.

In Alabama, you can and will be fired for anything any time and you don't have a legal leg to stand on.



Alabama law is a joke when it comes to protecting the employer over the employee. That is why buttholes can make whatever pompous rules over their employees that they want and if they get out of line or question they can be fired for any nit picky thing. I don't like Walmart and do not shop there. I stopped buying groceries there over two years ago and haven't been back. May you and your business profit as much as your employees benefit from working for you.(This being from your aforementioned rules.)What business do you own so I can go ahead and add it the boycott list?!?! Wink
GoFish I will admit my grandmother is quirky but she isnot a thief. She has done that all my life at every store we have gone to. Some stores know her and her anctics but others see her emptying her handbag and say nothing. An off duty policeman told me one time that if she didnot take it out of the store that there wasnot a crime. Quirky or not I love her.
GTO I am sure your grandmother is honest, but this is still not a good practice if she is at the senior moment age. Last week I thought I had 4 limes in the bag provided for fruit I only saw 3 as did the checker. AS I turned to put my basket back and leave the store the 4th lime rolled from under the baby seat which I use as a shelf. I said oh, there is the other lime and overpaid for it so I did not have to stand in line again. Things do happen and everyone may not know her or be nice. I most definitely could have been challenged...though completely innocent.
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Originally posted by DixieChik:
GoFish -- you seem to value your customers more than your employees in your comments -- you may be doing yourself a disservice by treating your employees with such cynicism and negativity,


Oh, I don't. I don't need to. My employees know that I would give them the shirt off my back. I was only explaining what kinds of policies I WOULD have IF my employees were responsible for stealing 10% of my salary.

If my employees steal from my company, they steal from me personally. I take that quite seriously.

But they don't so I don't. Wink
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Originally posted by GTO4ever:
Quirky or not I love her.


No doubt there. To me, though, this handbag thing is akin to walking under a ladder. Not a big deal but you don't wanna tempt fate any more than possible.

If I saw her doing that, I'd darn sure narc on her. I'm surprised she hasn't been politely asked to stop that.

Oh well.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
The other day she found a 50 cent piece of ribbon she liked in the crafts dept. and, as many other employees do with items, put it in her locker


Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired.

It sounds like your friend is trying to make up an excuse for her actions to avoid embarrassment over getting caught stealing. If she had full intentions of paying for it, she should have picked up the ribbon as she was leaving the store and paid for it like everyone else. Simple as that.


Boy! That's really telling them! First of all, little fish, you obviously do not know the person who this rant is about. I have known her for 40 years. She's one of the best people I have ever met and you should be ashamed of yourself. People like you should work for WM security since you are such a great judge of character! Actually, people like you, who judge others whom they don't even know should go back to your mommy's basement and stay there until you can behave.
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Originally posted by gr8songwriter:
GoFish,
I've read several of your entries and you appear to be nothing more than a trouble making, un-educated, low life idiot. You sound like Wal-Mart management material to me. And I hope and pray that you get falsely accused of stealing, too.
Get a life, you moron.


gr8songwriter: I'm sorry but I agree with GoFish. Also I know for a fact that Wal-mart cannot get you for stealing UNTIL you have left the store, as in OUTSIDE, before they can get you for shoplifting. You can call any store in the Shoals area or the police & they will tell you the same thing. Why do you tell him to "Get a Life" & call names? Is he, I or anyone else here not entitled to our opinion just as you are?? Some of the people here, including you, are so quick to call us names if we stop outside "the zone" & dis-agree. There is more to this story than is being told. Are you going to call me names too?
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Originally posted by smurph:
i got to add a comment about Walmart here. i stopped shopping there a good while ago. One week i had bought black pepper,a reasonably cheap item among many others. When i got home I went over my purchase slip,charged twice for the pepper. Okay an easy enough mistake. Two weeks later I am back shpping again, lo and behold when i get home there is another low cost item charged for twice. I called the manager,they were polite and asked for me to return with my sales slip. Like i am going to drive all the way back to Walmart for $0.99! This all got me to thinking,what a profit if they double charge a low cost item ,oh lets say every third customer,,,,what monies would be had for the Walmart empire. And i am not saying its the cashiers either,it could very well be programed into their computer check out systems.
So no more shopping at Walmart for me,,at all!!


The same thing has happened to me before. I always keep my receipt with me so that when I go back I can call it to their attention. They've always been very nice about it and gave my money back. It can happen anywhere, not just Wal-mart.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
according to the guidelines they used to fire her anyone in the store in possession of an item they have not yet paid for can be charged with stealing.



So now we understand that there is a official guideline that stipulates that one should not conceal or otherwise "possess" an item unless they are headed for the cashier to pay for it.

Sounds reasonable to me.

If I were to own a retail store (and I kinda do) where employees are the main source of corruption and theft, I'd have some pretty stiff rules, too.

My employee handbook would look something like this:

Employees should shop at the store during their off-duty hours. I don't gave a dang if you need to 50 cent ribbon, you can pick it up after your shift. If it was the last ribbon, well, that ribbon is for my regular customers, not my employees. If it's still there after your shift, you are welcome to it. I'll even give you a discount.

You employees are my number one source of theft. Please do yourself a favor and don't even dare risk the appearance of even thinking about stealing something. This explicitly means don't stash something under your desk or anywhere else. After your shift, you may shop until you drop and pay for the item like everyone else.

If you violate and of these VERY REASONABLE rules, your butt will go work for Target.

Thank you,
The Management
I would like nothing more than to dog-cuss you right now and it is taking all of my restraint not to do so. Instead, I have some friendly advice for you...You really need to get on your knees and ask the Good Lord to forgive you because you, you poor, sad, little man, will sit before the One who truly knows your heart and you will be judged for what is (rather , is NOT) in your heart. And you parents should be ashamed of themselves for not teaching you respect, morality, ethics, and just plain old common sense. Or maybe you were just a rebellious little punk who didn't care about your parents enough to listen to them. I am a Christian, but people like you make it hard to hold my tongue. Maybe your mommy didn't nurse you as a baby. Maybe your daddy was too busy to play catch with you and you're simply lashing out at strangers to get back at them. Whatever the reason, you need to get a life, a heart, and some common decency. You want to know the saddest part?? You're too deeply ignorant, morally defective, and completely pathetic to even realize how ignorant, defective, and pathetic you are!
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
Here's a story for you:
Years ago I worked the State of Alabama. A supervisor had a Canon 35mm camera to disappear out of her office one day. Earlier that week, the same supervisor had played a practical joke on a fellow supervisor (hid the t-tops to her new car). The afternoon the camera went missing, I was working late. Before I left, I went to the bathroom. After washing my hands, I noticed my shoe was untied, so I propper my foot on the edge of the metal wastebasket to tie it (I was a little overweight and it was difficult for me to bend all the way over to tie my shoes... had to sit down or find something to prop my foot on) Anyway, the can turned over and when I went to sit it back up, it seemed a bit heavy. I pulled the plastic bag away from the can and found the camera between the bag and the can. I took the camera out and was headed back to the office (with my office keys in my hand)to call the supervisor and let her know I had found her camera. I was walking AWAY from the exits and back toward the offices. I was stopped by a security guard that had been hiding in a closet area outside the bathroom. It seems the camera had been found earlier, but left there by security in hopes whoever did it would come back for it. I was arrested, charged with 2nd degree theft of property and almost spent the night in jail (I was bailed out by a relative). As I was being driven off in the back of the police car, I noticed the co-worker who had the t-tops hidden earlier, was still there. The charges were reduced to a misdemeanor, but still.... the fact that I was arrested while walking AWAY FROM THE EXIT seemed to have no bearing on the situation. So, it seems you can be arrested and accused for stealing even if you are not headed toward and exit. A few years after all this transpired, I discovered through a former co-worker that the acutal culprit was the "t-topper" and she had planned on going back after the camera and put it back in the office, but when she saw the security guard with me, she got scared.

No one can tell me that crap like what happened to the former Wal-Mart employee doesn't go on every day. I think they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her so they could hire someone in at less money. I just hope she hires a lawyer and they can get hold of the security tapes showing the ribbon laying out in the open. She cold have been dishonest and claimed a customer laid it there, but she didn't. I wonder how Wal-Mart would like for this story to get to the newspaper?
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Thank you,
I would like nothing more than to dog-cuss you right now and it is taking all of my restraint not to do so. You really need to get on your knees and ask the Good Lord to forgive you. and just plain old common sense. I am a Christian,Maybe your mommy didn't nurse you as a baby. Maybe your daddy was too busy to play catch with you. You're too deeply ignorant, morally defective, and completely pathetic to even realize how ignorant, defective, and pathetic you are![/QUOTE]

musician2226: AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN????? All because he gave his opinion? And his opinion wasn't yours?????
You should be ashamed of yourself! God save me from so called Christians like you!!!!!! How so very, very sad.
Next time any of you shop at Wal-Mart, be careful... don't let the kids have anything to eat or drink until AFTER you leave the store. You may be accused of stealing a cup of popcorn chicken. I wish I had a penny for every time I saw a parent/grandparent/babysitter give a kid a donut, candy bar, or soda while they were still in the store, then present the empty wrapper/cup for payment. How does the cashier know there was only one donut eaten? Or just one soda drank(could have been 2 or 3 and the empties are hidden on the back of a shelf somewhere in the garden center). Wal-Mart had best put signs up to discourage this or they will wind up needing a lot more security guards to escort people from the store......
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Originally posted by zukerfuss:
I think they were just looking for a reason to get rid of her so they could hire someone in at less money.


Maybe they were looking for a reason to get rid of her because this has happened before. I'm not saying that's the case, only that it's possible.
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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Originally posted by zukerfuss:
Next time any of you shop at Wal-Mart, be careful... don't let the kids have anything to eat or drink until AFTER you leave the store. You may be accused of stealing a cup of popcorn chicken. I wish I had a penny for every time I saw a parent/grandparent/babysitter give a kid a donut, candy bar, or soda while they were still in the store, then present the empty wrapper/cup for payment. How does the cashier know there was only one donut eaten? Or just one soda drank(could have been 2 or 3 and the empties are hidden on the back of a shelf somewhere in the garden center). Wal-Mart had best put signs up to discourage this or they will wind up needing a lot more security guards to escort people from the store......


I've always gotten something at the deli for my grandkids to nibble on and to pay for on my way out. If a Manager walks by, I will explain what I did, and he has no problem with it.
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Taciturn, I take back anything unkind I have ever said to you or even thought about you. You, I think, are my kind of gal/guy?


No problem, Vick. We are adults & may not always agree, right? And that should be ok.
Oh, BTW, I'm a gal!! A real Southern belle!! lol
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
"Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired."

Incorrect.

Copied and pasted directly from GoFish's original post...
Well, Taciturn... let's see: The ribbon was laying out in plain sight of everyone and she intended to pay for it when she left later... you give your grandkids things to nibble on while in the store and tell a manager you intend to pay for it when you leave...see a parallel here? How does the manager know you even pay for it? The same way they should have known she was going to pay for the ribbon... it's called TRUST....

As for the comment one person made that it may have happended before... if it's happened before, why haven't they called her on it before?

I say they should prohibit employees from putting anything from off the floor in their lockers and put up signs telling shoppers they cannot open ANY type of package (be it popcorn chicken/sodas, or CD/DVDs) without paying for it first. That would keep all this from happening again.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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Also I know for a fact that Wal-mart cannot get you for stealing UNTIL you have left the store, as in OUTSIDE, before they can get you for shoplifting.


Then please call the store manager and remind him of that, he seems to have forgotten it.


I did, and I asked if that was the store's policy and he agreed that it is indeed Wal-mart's policy, AND the law that a shop lifter HAS to be outside the store. Law Enforcement also verified this.
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
"Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired."

Incorrect.

Copied and pasted directly from GoFish's original post...


You're right & I was wrong about his post. He should not have called her stupid. Name calling is so silly & childish. Just because he did wrong doesn't mean that you should do the same wrong by calling him names. We should be bigger than that.
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by musician2226:
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
I will probably get slammed by a couple of "strong willed, agree with me...or else" people here but I don't understand why as adults we cannot agree/dis-agree without being put down or called names? This is not Kindergarden & we are not fighting over toys or whatever. We should be able to agree to dis-agree.
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid), and criticize a person without knowing them. It's not right or fair to victims of crap like this. And believe me, some people actually innocent. Businesses routinely make a habit of firing people to satisfy their hidden agenda. You seem like a peace-maker and I applaud you for that, but due process is gone in this country and GoFish needs to step back and and ask himself, "Why did I call this person stupid? Do I know them? I have the right to have an opinion, but what good will come of me calling a stranger stupid?" When dozens upon dozens of people come to support a friend or relative who was wronged, There is always one or two people who want their 15 minutes of fame so they go against the grain. GoFish, I apologize for judging you. Your turn...Apologize for judging a stranger. Do the right thing. Take responsibility for your words and make it right with the person whom you have offended for absolutely no reason whatsoever.


I understand what you are saying but if I remember the post did GoFish not not say WHAT she did was stupid? Not that SHE was stupid.
"Sorry, but your friend was stupid and deserved to be fired."

Incorrect.

Copied and pasted directly from GoFish's original post...


You're right & I was wrong about his post. He should not have called her stupid. Name calling is so silly & childish. Just because he did wrong doesn't mean that you should do the same wrong by calling him names. We should be bigger than that.
If you will notice, I apologized. My friend deserves at least the same from GoFish...Right?
Know what? I actually saw this big old woman and two other people, I am assuming they were family members based solely on their physiques, waddle out of a Walmart down here with a TV between her legs. Really. Right past the greeter, no bells going off, nothing. Just waddled out with a big old butt with square corners on it.

I nudged the checkout girl where I was standing and SHE called security. They caught her in the parking lot. Guess you can't waddle real fast with a Sony under your skirt.

But, my question is this, why didn't the people manning the cameras notice something odd when this woman pulled up her dress and stuck the tv up there? And why was I the only one who noticed square corners on her big old butt?
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Originally posted by musician2226:
If you will notice, I apologized. My friend deserves at least the same from GoFish...Right?[/QUOTE]

Yes, I noticed & you did the right thing. I don't know GoFish, but I agree that he should apologize. But if he doesn't, what can you do? At least, you did the right thing. I may question this whole thing of the way it came down, but I wish your friend/cousin the best, whatever happens.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Know what? I actually saw this big old woman and two other people, I am assuming they were family members based solely on their physiques, waddle out of a Walmart down here with a TV between her legs. Really. Right past the greeter, no bells going off, nothing. Just waddled out with a big old butt with square corners on it.

I nudged the checkout girl where I was standing and SHE called security. They caught her in the parking lot. Guess you can't waddle real fast with a Sony under your skirt.

But, my question is this, why didn't the people manning the cameras notice something odd when this woman pulled up her dress and stuck the tv up there? And why was I the only one who noticed square corners on her big old butt?


Oh, My Gosh, that is too funny!!!! Thanks, Vick, I think we all needed a laugh. I have a picture in my mind of this big ole woman with her big ole "square" butt waddleing out of Wal-mart!!! lol
Ahem: Excuse me, but it was not a dress... it was a skirt and blouse... and it was NOT a Sony... it was Zenith.... and as for why the people manning the cameras didn't notice.... who do you think paid me to do it?

On a more serious note: I have been to Wal-Mart and the greeter would be deep in conversation with someone and people walk through the door and the alarm go off several times, but the greeter just keeps talking and never looks up. Then there's the time my husband tried to return a vaccuum cleaner. He couldn't remember if it was bought at WM or KM. He wheeled (upright vaccuum)it in, the little lady (about 80 years old) puts the sticker on it and he wheels it to customer service. They said it was probably bought at KM, so he wheels it back out. The alarm doesn't go off, but this little 80-year-old lady practically tackles him. I laughed so hard I cried.
The girl in question because it was called "intent" which means they could read her mind and "knew" she "intended" to steal, not that she actually did. And I want to warn all the ones who say they let their children nibble on popcorn chicken and such while they are shopping, do not tell the manager whay you are doing because you might be escorted out because you are "intending" to steal the childs snack, and not actually pay for it. One person mentioned that exact thing to the store manager and was told that those people are stopped and prosecuted, well she told him her child eats popcorn chicken from the deli every time they shop there which I might say will probably never happen again. I also know the person in question and the ribbon was always in plain sight and never in her locker. One employee there put on a belt cause her pants were too big and accidently wore it home, yes right out of the store and wasnt stopped. Now that was stealing, whether she brought it back or not. the person in question about the ribbon never left the store.
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Originally posted by GoFish:

So now we understand that there is a official guideline that stipulates that one should not conceal or otherwise "possess" an item unless they are headed for the cashier to pay for it.

Sounds reasonable to me.

If I were to own a retail store (and I kinda do) where employees are the main source of corruption and theft, I'd have some pretty stiff rules, too.

My employee handbook would look something like this:

Employees should shop at the store during their off-duty hours. I don't gave a dang if you need to 50 cent ribbon, you can pick it up after your shift. If it was the last ribbon, well, that ribbon is for my regular customers, not my employees. If it's still there after your shift, you are welcome to it. I'll even give you a discount.

You employees are my number one source of theft. Please do yourself a favor and don't even dare risk the appearance of even thinking about stealing something. This explicitly means don't stash something under your desk or anywhere else. After your shift, you may shop until you drop and pay for the item like everyone else.

If you violate and of these VERY REASONABLE rules, your butt will go work for Target.

Thank you,
The Management


Dear Management:

Just so you understand, the reason we, the employees are your number one source of theft is because no decent, honest, hardworking person is going to put up with your BS...Especially not for the lousy salary you pay.

Thank you,
The only employees you'll ever get
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Originally posted by GoFish:

So now we understand that there is a official guideline that stipulates that one should not conceal or otherwise "possess" an item unless they are headed for the cashier to pay for it.

Sounds reasonable to me.



Yes, now we understand. We'll be sure not to purchase more than one item as we would actually be in posession and not headed directly for the register if we are wandering around pushing a cart.
I think about 20 or 30 people should go to WM, cash in hand, go to the deli and get popcorn chicken. Then, before we go to the register to pay for our popcorn chicken, we shop for awhile. All that shopping might make us hungry, so we all (remember, 20-30 people) start snacking on our popcorn chicken. Popcorn chicken in one hand, cash to pay in the other (in plain sight). We, as a group, might get in a good mood and start singing. Maybe, just maybe, we could sing "America the Beautiful"...in harmony. Can you imagine 20 -30 hungry shoppers singing in harmony while snacking and shopping, shopping and snacking with our cash in plain sight? Can you imagine? I mean...People would call it "The Great Wal-Mart Popcorn Chicken Conspiracy". We'd all end up on the "Group W" bench. Arlo Guthrie would have a ball with this! This is how ridiculous WM is being over a freaking piece of ribbon! The craft department probably throws out more ribbon than this "crime" involves. Arrest the craft department!
Geez people..get a life. I worked at the Florence WM for nearly 7 years, while in college and high school. I never considered it a real job, but a means of paying tuition/getting educated, so I could get the hell out of Florence.

It's a crap place to work, unless you're a pimple faced high school kid.. and a crap place to shop, unless you like to hang with the bubbas and watch the kids in prom dresses and tuxes (never understood why people came there before/after prom).

If you want to support China and help wreck the economy, by all means shop there.. If you have a soul, shop elsewhere and support your local businesses.
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Originally posted by joeycuda:
Geez people..get a life. I worked at the Florence WM for nearly 7 years, while in college and high school. I never considered it a real job, but a means of paying tuition/getting educated, so I could get the hell out of Florence.

It's a crap place to work, unless you're a pimple faced high school kid.. and a crap place to shop, unless you like to hang with the bubbas and watch the kids in prom dresses and tuxes (never understood why people came there before/after prom).

If you want to support China and help wreck the economy, by all means shop there.. If you have a soul, shop elsewhere and support your local businesses.

Funny funny post...... some of us here were just talking about people getting dressed up to go to WM. Ive seen the kids in prom attire too. But on Friday and Saturdays nights........ its adults dressing up too lol...... just goes to show theres nothing to do here..... i think the MSC WM is worse as far as the dressing up to go to WM..... you know, see and be seen. One hell ofva thread puck. But your cousin still got wronged........ oh yeah,..... where is jimbo?
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Originally posted by joeycuda:
Geez people..get a life. I worked at the Florence WM for nearly 7 years, while in college and high school. I never considered it a real job, but a means of paying tuition/getting educated, so I could get the hell out of Florence.

It's a crap place to work, unless you're a pimple faced high school kid.. and a crap place to shop, unless you like to hang with the bubbas and watch the kids in prom dresses and tuxes (never understood why people came there before/after prom).

If you want to support China and help wreck the economy, by all means shop there.. If you have a soul, shop elsewhere and support your local businesses.


Did you work with people that did consider it a real job, that had children, that had bills to pay, that had a home to keep up? There are a lot of those type people who work at Wal-Mart so dont fool yourself.
I hate people don't think what they (or others) do is a "real" job.... I heard that about waitressing.... my Mother waitressed for 40 years and believe me.... waitressing is a "real" job..... especially back when I was little. Remember those waitresses who could carry plates stacked all the way up their arms? Don't see that now..... Mother would have plates stacked all the way up one arm, have someone put 2 or 3 on the other arm and the have someone put 3 or 4 glasses of water in each hand. Amazing to watch.....
Don't let joeycuda fool you, working at walmart is a real job, most there have been there for years and having that "real job" is what pays their bills, helps their kids go to school, and keeps a roof over their head. Its the college students there that are just there "biding time" until they graduate, that make it hard on the ones who have been there for years, the ones who work hard every day to keep a house over their head and food on their table. But Im not going to demean myself by calling anyone names but one shouldnt put down another's job just because they are only there biding time.
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Originally posted by musician2226:
I agree to dis-agree, but it burns me up to know someone as well as I know this person and have someone insult them (fishy called my friend stupid),


I'm an anonymous person who assumes that another anonymous person did something stupid. I have no idea if that anonymous person is actually stupid or not. If you wanna get you panties in a wad over that, that's your problem. Me? I'll remain with the grownups. Geez.

And for those who eat candy or drink a drink before you pay for it, that is also stupid. It is at LEAST very tacky and is PROBABLY quite illegal. It's not yours to eat, drink, stash in a locker or CONCEAL under a counter until you pay for it. This thread ought to convince all of you that WM is dead serious about stopping employee theft.

And to the so-called "Christian" person who can't hold his temper: Kiss it. Wink
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Originally posted by musician2226:
My friend deserves at least the same from GoFish...Right?


Nah, none of us know enough about the whole story to comment one way or another, actually. I just roll with what was originally said and watched the story change from that point on. Again, I smell a rat.

I do not know whether or not the person in question is actually stupid. I do believe she/he/it WAS stupid (which is exactly what I said) for concealing something under a counter with the (supposed) intent of purchasing later.

I have been stupid, you have been stupid, we have all been stupid at one time or another. The fired person definitely sounds like she was stupid enough to get fired. That does not mean I, you or all of you are terminally stupid.

But you might be. Wink

If the story is true as it is told, it sure sounds like the person has a lawsuit against WM. What do you want to be that we will never hear of any such suit?
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I do believe she/he/it WAS stupid (which is exactly what I said) for concealing something under a counter with the (supposed) intent of purchasing later.



It was NOT under the counter, it was on top of the desk in plain view.

And she has consulted a lawyer. He's interested in the case and she has her second appointment with him next week.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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I do believe she/he/it WAS stupid (which is exactly what I said) for concealing something under a counter with the (supposed) intent of purchasing later.



It was NOT under the counter, it was on top of the desk in plain view.

And she has consulted a lawyer. He's interested in the case and she has her second appointment with him next week.


Puckerupfrog, I completely sympathize with your cousin's situation, so please do take me wrong for what I am about to say. Since it appears that this may go into litigation, it might be better if you didn't give anymore specifics about it. I only say this because you never know who is reading this and I would hate for it to hurt her case. Again...I am in no way trying to be critical, just objective. Good luck to your cousin.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
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I never considered it a real job, but a means of paying tuition/getting educated, so I could get the hell out of Florence.


what IS your definition of a "real" job?


A real job is one that pays enough to support a family without relying on welfare. A real job is one that gives raises that keep up with the cost of living. A real job rewards employees for longevity and does not use tactics like the one you described when dealing with loyal long term employees. A real job would not fire someone over a 50 cent ribbon.

At my job, employees are treated with respect and are assumed to be adults. We're trusted to get our work done, regardless of when we come in, how long a lunch we take, or when we leave. We're trusted that we'll get our 40 hours in, yet do not have to clock in and out for every break.

I don't think that Wal Mart is a bad place to work, if you're getting a start in retail management, but the other positions are dead end jobs, in a sense. There's no possible way that a job (besides management) at Wal Mart would fund a comfortable lifestyle. It was fine when I was going to school, and living at home.

A non-management job at Wal Mart should be a stepping stone and not a destination. It should be a means of bettering ones' self, but there will always be some people that are satisfied with just getting by.

I work for a very successful and growing company in Huntsville that is willing to pay me what I'm worth, as far as experience and education. I could not be where I am without the education that I got at UNA, the internship, the job after that and the job after that. I did not 'know' anyone in the field, but was luckily chosen based on qualifications alone.

This may sound cold, but working at Wal Mart, while fun at times, actually encouraged me to finish school and better myself so I wouldn't end up stuck there.
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This may sound cold, but working at Wal Mart, while fun at times, actually encouraged me to finish school and better myself so I wouldn't end up stuck there


That isn't cold, it's great that you were inspired that way.

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... but there will always be some people that are satisfied with just getting by.


Did you ever stop to think that a lot of those people don't see it that way?
Those people are the backbone of our lifes and most take pride in what they do...and rightfully so.
Where would be be without the people that stock shelves, serve us our food when we go out, and do the numerous janitorial services in the stores and on the streets?
All those that are "satisfied just getting by" make my life a lot easier and i, for one, am very grateful to them.
Sure.. I really do appreciate the people that do the hard work. Now I'm not assuming this, but it was own experience and observation - I remember MANY people there that said they wanted out, wanted to find something better, weren't paid enough, or just weren't happy with the situation.

I also remember a few people in particular who had college degrees, but admitted that they just weren't looking very hard for a job or didn't feel like moving out of Florence.

I was there for nearly 7 years, so I had first hand experience of the trials, tribulations, and gripes of people working in every department, plus management.

Quite recently, I ran into a guy that I knew as a support manager there for years, but had left for greener pastures. Very nice guy and extremely pleasant towards the employees. He told me how he felt the company had fallen far in terms of treatment of employees, or "associates". Let's do the Wal Mart cheer!
First, I'm sorry about your cousin. I think it God's way of giving her a better job--she deserves one.

As for Wal-Mart, I go there since it is on my way to work and all there is in Russellville. At home I go to Target. I've had two really odd expereinces with Wal-Mart: One ten years ago when they restocked an item I had taken back as defective (I almost purchase it again), and again last year when they wouldn't refund my money on a defective (cheap) cell phone. The first incident was in Muscle Shoals, the second in Athens. Bottom line, everyone should rely less on the Behemoth of assembly line retail.
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He told me how he felt the company had fallen far in terms of treatment of employees, or "associates". Let's do the Wal Mart cheer!


They have fallen in every area. When they first opened and sold American made products shopping there was a patriotic thing to do.

I remember the ads they used to have with associates as models. I thought that was a good idea. And items for sale were listed by who made them and where, most all in the US. Guess now we can look forward to ads featuring Kim Yung Sho and shoes made in Tianjin.
I have been reading a lot of threads this morning to get more of a general idea who is who and and idea on what other people thinks and I have to say that if this gofish owns and operates a business as said in other threads then I want no part of it. Not one dime and not even one penny. Threads for public view can and will eventually hurt anyone who isnot nice to people and intentionally hurts others. As far as my ideas on other people here is just most are normal working people that try to be decent even when opposed. Wal-Mart was wrong according to the facts presented by this forum member but look for that to happen a lot in our entire nation. The people that were allowed profit sharing back in the 80's which included all employees are now getting toward retirement and firing them reduces what they normally would get if they retired normally. There is a lawyer onboard here that can probably verify this. I work for a local Attorney and we talked about this last night over dinner. He took the entire office and spouses out and this just happened to come into the conversation. The best way for this woman to handle her situation is to find at least 2 other people who have similar problems and were fired and try going toward class action. Believe me Wal-Mart is no stranger to class action suits they have had so many over the years. It sure gets my mind working that if they handle their employees and the public like they do then there is someting wrong in the first place. And in reading comments on just this thread my guess is that if gofish does have a business as claimed maybe he took training from Wal-Mart?
I've heard through the grapevine that Wal-Mart is all about customer service. They bend over backwards for their customers. Although, their main concern is to catch an employee doing something against store policy. Especially one with a top heavy salary that has been around a few years. i.e taking a 16 minute break instead of a 15 minute break.
(aka)PuckerupFrog I actually see no reason to not be nice to people on this forum because we donot know each other so being crass or crude is not a good way to go. When I discuss something I donot want to go for the jugular but I want to see an intelligent discussion and the reason I said what I did about gofish up there was because of the pure ugliness of his comments on not only this thread but others not to make an enemy but to maybe allow him to see how others see him and any good business owner doesnot want bad things to come up about them. But I also have to say that there are a lot of very nice and helpful people on here that I would love to know personally and not just in messseges and you are one of them PuckerupFrog
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Originally posted by jmbo35660:
I've heard through the grapevine that Wal-Mart is all about customer service. They bend over backwards for their customers. Although, their main concern is to catch an employee doing something against store policy. Especially one with a top heavy salary that has been around a few years. i.e taking a 16 minute break instead of a 15 minute break.


That all adds up to thier old profit sharing that old man Sams wife talked him into doing. In this day and time it is more profitable to get rid of the people than to keep them until thier retirement date. So they go in search and lay in wait.
Gofish is like your grump old uncle. He just adds a little spice in a bland soup sometimes. Imagine, if you will, a family reunion with a lot of nice people saying pleasant things. Then imagine the old grumpy uncle saying crotchety things. We just pat him on the head and say, "yeah, uncle Gofish, ok." Then we ignore him till he gets too grouchy again.
GTO4, I can agree with your above thoughts, this gofish states a lot of things that would only be accepted to be said around only a few trusted friends. He, and a few others are bad to talk bad to someone, not realizing he is offending many other people also. Believe me that he and others has stacked up quite a few enemies real quick, and more than once or twice. He claims to be a local businessman, believe me, I will never do business with anyone with an attitude like his.
As for myself, I am a known local business owner /operator also. I try to not type anything on here, I would not say to their face. The truth is, we are all different people with our own opinions and standards. I will never expect someone to live by my standard, and I don't appreciate being condemned for having different standards than his.
I am now prepared to see how he di-sects and condemns you and I over these posts.
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Gofish is like your grump old uncle. He just adds a little spice in a bland soup sometimes. Imagine, if you will, a family reunion with a lot of nice people saying pleasant things. Then imagine the old grumpy uncle saying crotchety things. We just pat him on the head and say, "yeah, uncle Gofish, ok." Then we ignore him till he gets too grouchy again.


Wink
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Originally posted by unclegus:
I will never do business with anyone with an attitude like his.


I wouldn't either. I AM a jerk on this forum. Fortunately, In real life I'm probably not quite as I appear and my business is thriving.

Really, folks, we are a bunch of anonymous people making anonymous comments on a forum where likely no on acts the same as they do in real life.

My primary reason for being here is for intellectual stimulation through heated debate. If you can't hold your own in a debate, you probably should be here.

In short, I would suggest that if you can't take the heat, get the heck out of the fire.

And I still maintain that the original subject of this thread is probably a thief. Wink
I come on here for information and conversation, and to have fellowship.
I am actually a whole lot MEANER in real life than I am on here.
Gofish, don't you ever perceive I want to have a heated debate with you because I post my opinion on here. We can agree to disagree, but when you resort to calling people stupid and other names, you have crossed a line with me.
I have a thriving business as well, with a lot of stress. I do not enter into the politics, I stay away from the highly debated topics, but I do have my own opinion and will post accordingly, and occasionally can give some worthy advise.
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I come on here for information and conversation, and to have fellowship.
I am actually a whole lot MEANER in real life than I am on here.
Gofish, don't you ever perceive I want to have a heated debate with you because I post my opinion on here. We can agree to disagree, but when you resort to calling people stupid and other names, you have crossed a line with me.
I have a thriving business as well, with a lot of stress. I do not enter into the politics, I stay away from the highly debated topics, but I do have my own opinion and will post accordingly, and occasionally can give some worthy advise.

You may be meaner away from the keyboard, but you always have good insight into the things you post here. Always enjoy reading your posts.
Thank you OrginalBama and allysmom. I enjoy being on here with the both of you as well. You too jimbo, I can't help but to be myself also.
Anyone who wants to be a jerk just because they are under cover of a keyboard.......... is just that, but I will refrain from calling names.
You should consider the fact that someday it may be discovered just who you are? Then it may be wise to have the ass to back your words.
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Originally posted by unclegus:
I will never do business with anyone with an attitude like his.


I wouldn't either. I AM a jerk on this forum. Fortunately, In real life I'm probably not quite as I appear and my business is thriving.

Really, folks, we are a bunch of anonymous people making anonymous comments on a forum where likely no on acts the same as they do in real life.

My primary reason for being here is for intellectual stimulation through heated debate. If you can't hold your own in a debate, you probably should be here.

In short, I would suggest that if you can't take the heat, get the heck out of the fire.

And I still maintain that the original subject of this thread is probably a thief. Wink


I didnot know that you made the rules here for how the people comment. Could you paste them in here so we donot go against them? On the serious side Iwant to say that I donot think it is up to you to be a jerk for anyones intellect. I also donot want you judging me for my honesty on the forum and I still hold thta when I find out where your buisness is I promise you will not get a dime from me. I can take any heat you want to throw but what I cannot understand is why you want to throw it and stir up problems. I think that those on here who know you better than I do also knows about business and can give me a hint as to where not to go. I think you are doing yourself more harm than good because a good business man promotes professionalism every where even on a anonymous forum.
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But I also have to say that there are a lot of very nice and helpful people on here that I would love to know personally and not just in messseges and you are one of them PuckerupFrog



Thank you.
And with me what you see is what you get, but i'm not seen very often. I blend into the background very easily.
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I think it's really cool that so many of us on here have crossed paths or know people in common in the real world.....Small World Syndrome.
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HEY!!! I'm just like me on here.


I should speak only for myself, I'm sure.

However, there was a research study conducted a couple of years ago that compared the perceived online persona of forum participants against their actual appearance and personality.

Participant's were asked to describe the people they were interacting with and rate certain personality traits such as education level, introvert/extrovert, bubbly, funny, ect.

I can't remember numbers but the jest of the study was that almost no one acted or looked anything like their "real" selves.

Whatever the case, I like your online persona, Vick. I almost hate it when I have to call you down for saying something silly. Wink

For those that can't take the heat, well, you know.
It's not just the employees or the imports that makes me not want to go to Walmart. I look at the customers and think it's like a casting call for "The Hills Have Eyes". WHERE do these people come from? You don't see them meandering all over the streets all the time. Do they just hide in the bushes and come out on the 3rd of every month to go to Walmart for their porkskins and Grapicos?
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It's not just the employees or the imports that makes me not want to go to Walmart. I look at the customers and think it's like a casting call for "The Hills Have Eyes". WHERE do these people come from? You don't see them meandering all over the streets all the time. Do they just hide in the bushes and come out on the 3rd of every month to go to Walmart for their porkskins and Grapicos?



LOL, Porkskins and Grapico's??? What the heck is a Grapico anyway??? Big Grin
Grapico is a VERY VERY sweet, grape flavored soft drink. I was in Walmart (reluctantly) last week, there was not one but TWO different sets of Neanderthal families with little inbred looking kids about a year to maybe 7 years old, all of them. The mamas were both about 100 pounds overweight wearing tank tops and knit pants that were riding up between their knees where their thighs rubbed: the daddies were maybe 110 pound soaking wet, also in tank tops; the older kids in one family were fighting over an opened bag of pork rinds and drinking Grapico with streaks of purple down the chin onto their necks; the younger kids in BOTH families had what looked to be Grapico in their bottles.

Saw an article that Britney Spears ex-husband's complaint in his custody fight is that she gives the children soft drinks in their bottles. I'll guarantee you it's Grapico.
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Grapico is a VERY VERY sweet, grape flavored soft drink. I was in Walmart (reluctantly) last week, there was not one but TWO different sets of Neanderthal families with little inbred looking kids about a year to maybe 7 years old, all of them. The mamas were both about 100 pounds overweight wearing tank tops and knit pants that were riding up between their knees where their thighs rubbed: the daddies were maybe 110 pound soaking wet, also in tank tops; the older kids in one family were fighting over an opened bag of pork rinds and drinking Grapico with streaks of purple down the chin onto their necks; the younger kids in BOTH families had what looked to be Grapico in their bottles.

Saw an article that Britney Spears ex-husband's complaint in his custody fight is that she gives the children soft drinks in their bottles. I'll guarantee you it's Grapico.



Sounds GROSS!!! But alas, it is people like that, along with their monthly supply of food stamps that keep Wal-Marts COO's to make 30 Million or more EACH per year.
Gee, Vick13, I thought nurses were supposed to be kind and compassionate....."inbred looking little children"? Guess your true colors are coming out.... hopefully you will never have any relatives of yours (esecially children) "look inbred".... as for the overweight mothers and their clothing... did you ever stop to think maybe the mothers have something medically wrong and their finances aren't as good as most?

I have never... and I mean NEVER... looked at people and had thoughts or made comments about them. I was raised in a home where I was taught not to make judgements about others, no matter what type of clothing they were wearing or how they appeared physically. I was made fun of at a young age because of my appearance (extremely crooked teeth and no money or insurance to cover dental treatment) and I have had comments made about my weight as an adult (yep, overweight due to diabetes), but luckily I am the type to overlook things like that.
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I was made fun of at a young age because of my appearance (extremely crooked teeth and no money or insurance to cover dental treatment) and I have had comments made about my weight as an adult (yep, overweight due to diabetes)


You are not overweight because you are diabetic. You are diabetic because you are overweight. Get some good diabetic education and actually READ THE INFORMATION. Get a job with dental insurance and take care of the teeth one thing at a time if you have to. You can do all of the above pretty much free. UAB dental school does the orthodontics for free(basedon income). Medicaid covers diabetic information and counseling for free, also the medication.

You can make healthy choices for diets as easily and as cheaply as you can suck down sugary drinks and fat food.

You can't just sit on the sofa and feel sorry for yourself because you are fat and diabetic. It costs nothing to walk along a side walk or get off the sofa.

You can change if you have gumption enough to get up, do research, go to the health department if you have to. But sitting there feeling put upon by my comments is just another example of feeling "discriminated against" is just going to kill you early with no toes, feet, legs and heart problems. Diabetes is not killing you. You're noncompliance is killing you.
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I was made fun of at a young age because of my appearance (extremely crooked teeth and no money or insurance to cover dental treatment) and I have had comments made about my weight as an adult (yep, overweight due to diabetes)


You are not overweight because you are diabetic. You are diabetic because you are overweight. Get some good diabetic education and actually READ THE INFORMATION. Get a job with dental insurance and take care of the teeth one thing at a time if you have to. You can do all of the above pretty much free. UAB dental school does the orthodontics for free(basedon income). Medicaid covers diabetic information and counseling for free, also the medication.

You can make healthy choices for diets as easily and as cheaply as you can suck down sugary drinks and fat food.

You can't just sit on the sofa and feel sorry for yourself because you are fat and diabetic. It costs nothing to walk along a side walk or get off the sofa.

You can change if you have gumption enough to get up, do research, go to the health department if you have to. But sitting there feeling put upon by my comments is just another example of feeling "discriminated against" is just going to kill you early with no toes, feet, legs and heart problems. Diabetes is not killing you. You're noncompliance is killing you.


Ditto, Vick!!
To Dixie Rose: I agree with you that many of the folks working at Walmart are helping support their families on the salary that they earn. I do not work there but I think it could be an interesting place to work if you like people.I shop there and I have shopped at Walmart every since they opened the stores.
The thing that puzzles me is many people demean Walmart , the employees and the customers. Why if they think it is so terrible do they continue to go into the store and spend their money?My advice for those who insist on complaining about it, go some place else and shop because if the truth was known , Walmart probably would rather have the room you take up than have your business.
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Except I'm prettier on here than I really am.

Are you sure about that? This is strictly your opinion of yourself, to other people you might look like your are "inbred" Also to others you might appear to be over weight, I don't care how much or how little you weigh. Another thing you might want to think about is your statement in an earlier post , do you not realize that there are a lot of people here in North Alabama who live below the poverty level and they depend upon that check they get on the 3rd of each month for all their monthly income. Some of those folks only come out to shop on the 3rd of the month and when that money is gone they are broke.People who are not as fortunate as you are to have a good paying job have to make a lot of sacrifices. I know that being clean is a matter of choice but many of those people can not afford the latest fashion or trendy new hairstyles. You need to step back and think about this. Unless you are absolutely loaded with money, you could be in the same place one day. What happens if you lose your job and can no longer afford you nice home and pretty car? What if you hit such a bad streak of luck that you are forced to live in public housing and turn to goverment assistance? I bet you would feel a lot different. Do you not ever stop and think that those people you find so offensive might wish they could do better? Those folks may not have a great big paycheck or fine clothes or cars and fancy houses, but they are still human beings. they have feelings and your nor I know what is in their heart and that is where the good is found.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
LOL, Porkskins and Grapico's??? What the heck is a Grapico anyway??? Big Grin


Kindred_Spirit: You've never had a Grapico??
oh, honey, meet me at Wal-mart & I'll buy you one, lol



Time, which one?? I will be there!!! LOL. I get off work anywhere between 1:30 and 2:30 depending on what time I GET there, lol. Thanks for the offer, but it really does sound yucky, although I DO like grape kool-aid!!! Big Grin
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Thank you OrginalBama and allysmom. I enjoy being on here with the both of you as well. You too jimbo, I can't help but to be myself also.
Anyone who wants to be a jerk just because they are under cover of a keyboard.......... is just that, but I will refrain from calling names.
You should consider the fact that someday it may be discovered just who you are? Then it may be wise to have the ass to back your words.



Spoken like the classy dude you are!!! Very true words and VERY WISE!!! Smiler
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re you sure about that? This is strictly your opinion of yourself, to other people you might look like your are "inbred" Also to others you might appear to be over weight, I don't care how much or how little you weigh. Another thing you might want to think about is your statement in an earlier post , do you not realize that there are a lot of people here in North Alabama who live below the poverty level and they depend upon that check they get on the 3rd of each month for all their monthly income. Some of those folks only come out to shop on the 3rd of the month and when that money is gone they are broke.People who are not as fortunate as you are to have a good paying job have to make a lot of sacrifices. I know that being clean is a matter of choice but many of those people can not afford the latest fashion or trendy new hairstyles. You need to step back and think about this. Unless you are absolutely loaded with money, you could be in the same place one day. What happens if you lose your job and can no longer afford you nice home and pretty car? What if you hit such a bad streak of luck that you are forced to live in public housing and turn to goverment assistance? I bet you would feel a lot different. Do you not ever stop and think that those people you find so offensive might wish they could do better? Those folks may not have a great big paycheck or fine clothes or cars and fancy houses, but they are still human beings. they have feelings and your nor I know what is in their heart and that is where the good is found.


Sorry if I hit a nerve there, Tubby. By all means, suck up the Grapico, pork skins, and whatever. Just please, try to wipe the boogers of your kids noses.
There are clothes at Walmart that come in big sizes and have sleeves. Wear them if your ass is the size of a Mack Truck. Wear them if your armpit hair is below your elbow.

There's food in Walmart that is healthy. Feed it to your kids instead of porkskins out of a bag. Walmart has fruit of all kinds, including dried fruit they can chomp out of the bag. And Guess What???? Walmart has milk,too. Junk food costs more even at Walmart than bottles water, juice boxes and milk.

Didn't say a thing about hairstyles or the kinds of houses they live in. What I DID say is spending money on empty nutritionally negative junk food is wrong. More so if your funds are limited. And Walmart has tissue to wipe those green slimey noses. Which the kids probably wouldn't have if their parents had gumption enough to feed them correctly and help their immune systems.

So, tell your cousins there are places and people they can call for free to help them learn nutrition and sanitary measures.
At the hospital i see a lot of overweight nurses, but everytime i see a fat person in a store i don't automatically assume they're a nurse.
Saying someone is diabetic because they're overweight is wrong. An intelligent RN should know weight gain is a side effect of insulin therapy.
And there are many, many overweight people that are not diabetic...just as there are slim people who are. I have a cousin that died last year due to diabetic complications and she never weighed over 100 pounds in her life. Another cousin is overweight with no problems.
Halle Berry is diabetic. John Goodman isn't.
And the dental thing....growing up around here there were no dental clinic services as you mentioned having there. And, as an adult, if you're lucky enough to have a good dental plan associated with your job? That's great, but a person doesn't up and change jobs based on that. And many dental plans don't cover cosmetic procedures, which is what fixing crooked teeth is considered.

Now, just what does and "in bred" child look like? Brown eyes? Blue? Dark hair?
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Don't forget the direct relation that good physical hygine has with intelligence. It has been proven that kids who does not practice good hygine are having to get over sickness instead of getting educated, which puts them farther back into poverty.


You're right about that. Use to be that poor hygiene could be associated with something like no indoor plumbing or indoor bathroom, but now there is now excuse for it. And children can't learn from parents that don't practice it.
Good nutrition and hygiene contributes to good strong teeth. I'm not worried about crooked teeth. Just little yellow and green teeth from people not teaching their kids to brush. And from letting them go to bed with sugary drinks in their bottles. And no, fat doesn't necessary make you diabetic. It does make you have coronary artery disease, heart problems, and a host of other health related problems. Which, since we're always on a rant about people who use "our" tax dollars for health care, if they don't have jobs with benefits comes directly out of our pockets.

My main point is this: If you have cash or a ebt card and you are in Walmart (or anywhere else), you have a choice on what to buy. Potato chips, soft drinks, and junk food is not the thing to put in your cart. And I don't care who you are or how much money you do or don't have, you can buy clothes that fit. You can go to the thrift store and get a tee shirt that covers your fat hairy stomach, or your enormous thighs for less than $2.00. You don't have to buy a wife beater at walmart for $5.00 or a pair of shorts ten sizes too small.

Inbred looking kids tend to look like their mother/aunts and their brother/fathers. Although they may look that way because they are pallid, with rotten teeth and thin hair because they've been fed food with zero nutrition since birth.
And, another thing, this is America. These are no the dreaded "illegal aliens" who don't speak English. I promise you these people have at least one TV in their house. At some point in time they've been able to stop and watch a show on healthy habits before they flip to American Idol. And, if they get through the sixth grade, there are health related classes in school.
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And no, fat doesn't necessary make you diabetic. It does make you have coronary artery disease, heart problems, and a host of other health related problems


It can contribute to, but it does not MAKE you have.
Studies show that on the average overweight people are healthier than thin people. Example being people that brag they can eat anything and not gain weight...so that's what they do. They eat anything and wind up with severe health problems because of their eating habits.

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Which, since we're always on a rant about people who use "our" tax dollars for health care, if they don't have jobs with benefits comes directly out of our pockets


I have never joined in that rant.
You, as a nurse and home health care/hospice worker, do you work with handicapped and elderly? Do you begrudge them the care you're paid to give because they may be on (tax dollar) medicaid or medicare?
And news flash... EVERYONE pays taxes in some form. Clothing, groceries, gas....the dreaded yearly car tag.
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Inbred looking kids tend to look like their mother/aunts and their brother/fathers


That remark is an insult to everyone that bears a resemblance to any of their family members.
Also to their parents and to their own children

...has anyone ever commented on you resembling your parents or an aunt or uncle? If so maybe you should practice saying "uncle daddy" and "aunt mommy."
do any of your children look like you or your husband? Can you say "Ge-net-ics" ?
I get what vick is saying. My brother was told by his doc that he was pre-diabetic(type 2). His youngest son, who is a junior in high school is headed that way. My brother has since lost a tremendous amount of weight by changing his eating habits. My nephew however eats junk and remains overweight, and that's because he has a full arsenal of junk at his beck and call because they buy it for him. Most claim buying junk food is more convenient, but how hard is it to eat an apple or peel and orange as opposed to opening a bag of cheetos.

Type 1 diabetes is different, however:
"Type 2 diabetes used to occur mainly in adults who were overweight and ages 40 and older. Now, as more children and adolescents in the United States become overweight and inactive, type 2 diabetes is occurring more often in young people." from here: http://ndep.nih.gov/diabetes/youth/youth_FS.htm
I wanna comment on the crooked teeth thing. I have a decent job, making fairly good money wiht dental insurance. I was reading the book that came with the insurance package and found out a little bit of information that surprised me. This particular insurance does not pay for braces for anyone over 18... if you are over 18 and need braces it is considered cosmetic. I checked with a few other people I know who have different insurance and found theirs to be the same. However, if I were to need braces, I would not be able to afford them because while I do make decent pay, I don't make enough to cover the cost of braces but make too much to get any type of financial help or onto any dental program. And, yes, my teeth are slightly yellowed, but my dentist told me this could be genetic, as a lot of dental problems are. Unfortunately, whitening treatments offered by dental practices are also considered cosmetic and the things you can buy in a drugstore, etc., rarely ever work like they say they do.
I know Gemini-Blue from working with her and before working with her she and I were acquaintances through others. She is'nt as overweight as one would think from reading her post or talking to her. She was diagnosed in her mid-20's, was diet controlled for 6 years (lost 86-lbs over that time), then had to go on insulin when she got pregnant (4 shots a day). The only symptom of diabetes she had was developing a headache the same time every day (about 2 hours after lunch). She was working for a very prominent physician who performed testing on her and found out she had diabetes. She had several miscarriages before she got pregnant this last time. During this last pregnancy she kept her blood sugar under perfect control, then at 6 months the baby decided to make it's appearance. She weighed 2-lbs at birth and today, 12 years later, is a normal 12 year old both height and weight-wise and has tested at the near-genius level on IQ tests. No long-lasting side effects from being a preemie or anything.

Gemini gained quite a bit of weight while pregnant, but the doctors all said it was because of the insulin and it's a good thing she was heavier because the baby was actually considered to be "big" for a 25-week baby (I can't imagine a 2-lb baby being considered "big"). Gemini knows the weight wasn't put on overnight and it's not going to come off overnight.She'll lose a few pounds and gain a few back, but for the most part she has lost more than she has gained back. She is being very sensible with her diet and weight loss. Vick13 should become a little more compassionate and know all her facts before making such judgements about others. Gemini has never said anything bad about or against anyone in her life (and believe me, she has had opportunity to really let loose on some people over the internet and in person), but she considers herself above "petty" things. Her opinion is that there is only person she has to answer to and He is not judgemental about things like that at all.

A lot of people could take lessons from her when it comes to being fair and loving towards everyone. She got a little upset when she found out I was going to do this post and told me not to let what others say about her get to me.
I've had my say, and, like Gemini, I'm gonna back off and let everything else slide off my back.
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Must be something going on with the moon or the tides or the mojo in the universe. The forums are usually pretty funny and good natured.

Ya'll better watch out... you'll end up in CyberPrison! It is very lonely in there, and the food sucked!




LOL, I totally AGREE with you on that CyberPrison!!! You got FOOD???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL....

I am REFORMED now though, Cool
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Originally posted by T S C:
Must be something going on with the moon or the tides or the mojo in the universe. The forums are usually pretty funny and good natured.

Ya'll better watch out... you'll end up in CyberPrison! It is very lonely in there, and the food sucked!




LOL, I totally AGREE with you on that CyberPrison!!! You got FOOD???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL....

I am REFORMED now though, Cool


Wait a minute... you didn't get food? I wonder, was that food they gave me punishment for being extra bad???
Is that what it is? Well, the heat seems to have affected one person in particular.
I really don't think I would want myself, or any loved ones, cared for by someone that clearly looks down their nose at others because of their looks and financial situation.
Professionally speaking, the majority of people like that are very insecure about their own looks and intelligence so they feel the need to attack others. If they can drag someone else to their level with insults and by making fun of them then they themselves don't feel so inferior.
However, since I don't know this person, saying she falls into that category would be me passing judgement and in my profession that is a big no-no.
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Originally posted by T S C:
In case the newbies on here didn't notice, let me tell you where you can find sympathy. It is in the dictionary right between $h|t and syphilis.


Aaaaaaaaaaah! HAAaaaaaaaaaa! I just died! Haaar!

I'm sure that's old as heck but . . . HAaaaaaaaaa!

Hah!


My old boss used to say that a lot. Another of his favorites was "Well, you know what the most commonly heard 4 letter word is in a whorrehouse is, don't you? NEXT!!!"

He was a real laugh riot.
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I get what vick is saying. My brother was told by his doc that he was pre-diabetic(type 2). His youngest son, who is a junior in high school is headed that way. My brother has since lost a tremendous amount of weight by changing his eating habits. My nephew however eats junk and remains overweight, and that's because he has a full arsenal of junk at his beck and call because they buy it for him. Most claim buying junk food is more convenient, but how hard is it to eat an apple or peel and orange as opposed to opening a bag of cheetos.


AT last somebody who gets what I'm saying. Thank you.
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Calling someone Tubby and making fun of others for the way they look is something a child would do. And it isn't very christian. Judge not.



And thank You, cb, for not judging me. That's nice to read.


Sweetie, you seem to have missed the point of what I was saying. Of course I am not going to judge you, but you, also, should not have judged others, which you have clearly done in several of your posts.
Now, was it really necessary to call someone "Tubby?"
And were the remarks and assumptions about the life style of Gemini and others necessary?
My dear, a true hearted, professionally trained health care provider does not behave in such a manner. The education of a health care provider covers areas such as proper demeanor even if their upbringing is lacking in such.
Being a reputable health care professional means being one 24-7, does it not?
And the name is Cee, not cb.
Sorry, cee. I had my answer thing up on top and couldn't see the whole name, oops. I don't know if anybody is tubby or not, I don't know you guys. And I don't know a blooming thing about Gemini in particular's life style. As a nurse, I tend to be a bit more critical of ones lifestyle because I see how hard it is to fix something once it's gone so far. It is much easier to stop it before it starts. Especially with children.

Honestly, I have a dear friend that has four children. She, her husband, and all four of the kids are obese. She's wonderful and I love her, but I have gone shopping with her, to Walmart, actually. She's always worried about her weight, her boys' weight, her husband needing knee replacements at 40 yr old, and her daughter not being able to get a date for the prom cause somebody made fun of her size. They're great kids. But...as we're walking through the store she's got TWO buggies full of chips, sodas, cookies, hot dogs, spaghetti-o's and nothing that resembles food. And that is just for the weekend. The two adults have a multitude of illnesses. The eight year old boy wears a 38 inch waist blue jean. And, yes, she is a nurse.

A lot of us, as nurses, get so frustrated at seeing these people we've tried all day to feed correctly, medicate, get physical therapy to teach them exercises, and a dietitian to help them eat right have family members coming in with buckets of fried chicken and Big Mac's.

I had one patient who was so large it took four nurses to get him off the bed onto a bedside commode. His brother and sister came in with a grocery sack of candy. Really. So, yes, we get frustrated.

I'm not, and was not, talking about people who are trying. I know how hard it is to not eat food that just sounds so good. But you have to make an effort, if not for your health, then for your children.

(I like a bowl of Chubby Hubby as much as anybody!)
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I don't know you guys. And I don't know a blooming thing about Gemini in particular's life style



Then making assumptions about her, and her lifestyle, was not exactly behavior becoming to one that knows better, right?
And the mention of your friend and her family. Would you be insulted if someone called her, or her children, "Tubby" or perhaps even "in-bred" looking?
I believe Puckerupfrog made some excellent points in that area. I was impressed by her insights and the way in which she expressed herself. I detect some good psychologically based training there.
And sweetie, I detect a kind heart in you or else you would not have become a nurse, right?
Please, let it shine.
PUF knows me well enough to not be that bent out of shape.

I never read anything at all about Gemini. I didn't read a post by her at all. I had just gotten back from Walmart and was commenting on the Walmart people I'd just seen. My comments had nothing at all to do with anybody on here. All of a sudden everybody just jumped me. I'm still reeling from people just turning on me like rabid creatures.

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