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Originally posted by vick13:
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I was made fun of at a young age because of my appearance (extremely crooked teeth and no money or insurance to cover dental treatment) and I have had comments made about my weight as an adult (yep, overweight due to diabetes)


You are not overweight because you are diabetic. You are diabetic because you are overweight. Get some good diabetic education and actually READ THE INFORMATION. Get a job with dental insurance and take care of the teeth one thing at a time if you have to. You can do all of the above pretty much free. UAB dental school does the orthodontics for free(basedon income). Medicaid covers diabetic information and counseling for free, also the medication.

You can make healthy choices for diets as easily and as cheaply as you can suck down sugary drinks and fat food.

You can't just sit on the sofa and feel sorry for yourself because you are fat and diabetic. It costs nothing to walk along a side walk or get off the sofa.

You can change if you have gumption enough to get up, do research, go to the health department if you have to. But sitting there feeling put upon by my comments is just another example of feeling "discriminated against" is just going to kill you early with no toes, feet, legs and heart problems. Diabetes is not killing you. You're noncompliance is killing you.


Ditto, Vick!!
To Dixie Rose: I agree with you that many of the folks working at Walmart are helping support their families on the salary that they earn. I do not work there but I think it could be an interesting place to work if you like people.I shop there and I have shopped at Walmart every since they opened the stores.
The thing that puzzles me is many people demean Walmart , the employees and the customers. Why if they think it is so terrible do they continue to go into the store and spend their money?My advice for those who insist on complaining about it, go some place else and shop because if the truth was known , Walmart probably would rather have the room you take up than have your business.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Except I'm prettier on here than I really am.

Are you sure about that? This is strictly your opinion of yourself, to other people you might look like your are "inbred" Also to others you might appear to be over weight, I don't care how much or how little you weigh. Another thing you might want to think about is your statement in an earlier post , do you not realize that there are a lot of people here in North Alabama who live below the poverty level and they depend upon that check they get on the 3rd of each month for all their monthly income. Some of those folks only come out to shop on the 3rd of the month and when that money is gone they are broke.People who are not as fortunate as you are to have a good paying job have to make a lot of sacrifices. I know that being clean is a matter of choice but many of those people can not afford the latest fashion or trendy new hairstyles. You need to step back and think about this. Unless you are absolutely loaded with money, you could be in the same place one day. What happens if you lose your job and can no longer afford you nice home and pretty car? What if you hit such a bad streak of luck that you are forced to live in public housing and turn to goverment assistance? I bet you would feel a lot different. Do you not ever stop and think that those people you find so offensive might wish they could do better? Those folks may not have a great big paycheck or fine clothes or cars and fancy houses, but they are still human beings. they have feelings and your nor I know what is in their heart and that is where the good is found.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
LOL, Porkskins and Grapico's??? What the heck is a Grapico anyway??? Big Grin


Kindred_Spirit: You've never had a Grapico??
oh, honey, meet me at Wal-mart & I'll buy you one, lol



Time, which one?? I will be there!!! LOL. I get off work anywhere between 1:30 and 2:30 depending on what time I GET there, lol. Thanks for the offer, but it really does sound yucky, although I DO like grape kool-aid!!! Big Grin
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Thank you OrginalBama and allysmom. I enjoy being on here with the both of you as well. You too jimbo, I can't help but to be myself also.
Anyone who wants to be a jerk just because they are under cover of a keyboard.......... is just that, but I will refrain from calling names.
You should consider the fact that someday it may be discovered just who you are? Then it may be wise to have the ass to back your words.



Spoken like the classy dude you are!!! Very true words and VERY WISE!!! Smiler
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re you sure about that? This is strictly your opinion of yourself, to other people you might look like your are "inbred" Also to others you might appear to be over weight, I don't care how much or how little you weigh. Another thing you might want to think about is your statement in an earlier post , do you not realize that there are a lot of people here in North Alabama who live below the poverty level and they depend upon that check they get on the 3rd of each month for all their monthly income. Some of those folks only come out to shop on the 3rd of the month and when that money is gone they are broke.People who are not as fortunate as you are to have a good paying job have to make a lot of sacrifices. I know that being clean is a matter of choice but many of those people can not afford the latest fashion or trendy new hairstyles. You need to step back and think about this. Unless you are absolutely loaded with money, you could be in the same place one day. What happens if you lose your job and can no longer afford you nice home and pretty car? What if you hit such a bad streak of luck that you are forced to live in public housing and turn to goverment assistance? I bet you would feel a lot different. Do you not ever stop and think that those people you find so offensive might wish they could do better? Those folks may not have a great big paycheck or fine clothes or cars and fancy houses, but they are still human beings. they have feelings and your nor I know what is in their heart and that is where the good is found.


Sorry if I hit a nerve there, Tubby. By all means, suck up the Grapico, pork skins, and whatever. Just please, try to wipe the boogers of your kids noses.
There are clothes at Walmart that come in big sizes and have sleeves. Wear them if your ass is the size of a Mack Truck. Wear them if your armpit hair is below your elbow.

There's food in Walmart that is healthy. Feed it to your kids instead of porkskins out of a bag. Walmart has fruit of all kinds, including dried fruit they can chomp out of the bag. And Guess What???? Walmart has milk,too. Junk food costs more even at Walmart than bottles water, juice boxes and milk.

Didn't say a thing about hairstyles or the kinds of houses they live in. What I DID say is spending money on empty nutritionally negative junk food is wrong. More so if your funds are limited. And Walmart has tissue to wipe those green slimey noses. Which the kids probably wouldn't have if their parents had gumption enough to feed them correctly and help their immune systems.

So, tell your cousins there are places and people they can call for free to help them learn nutrition and sanitary measures.
At the hospital i see a lot of overweight nurses, but everytime i see a fat person in a store i don't automatically assume they're a nurse.
Saying someone is diabetic because they're overweight is wrong. An intelligent RN should know weight gain is a side effect of insulin therapy.
And there are many, many overweight people that are not diabetic...just as there are slim people who are. I have a cousin that died last year due to diabetic complications and she never weighed over 100 pounds in her life. Another cousin is overweight with no problems.
Halle Berry is diabetic. John Goodman isn't.
And the dental thing....growing up around here there were no dental clinic services as you mentioned having there. And, as an adult, if you're lucky enough to have a good dental plan associated with your job? That's great, but a person doesn't up and change jobs based on that. And many dental plans don't cover cosmetic procedures, which is what fixing crooked teeth is considered.

Now, just what does and "in bred" child look like? Brown eyes? Blue? Dark hair?
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Don't forget the direct relation that good physical hygine has with intelligence. It has been proven that kids who does not practice good hygine are having to get over sickness instead of getting educated, which puts them farther back into poverty.


You're right about that. Use to be that poor hygiene could be associated with something like no indoor plumbing or indoor bathroom, but now there is now excuse for it. And children can't learn from parents that don't practice it.
Good nutrition and hygiene contributes to good strong teeth. I'm not worried about crooked teeth. Just little yellow and green teeth from people not teaching their kids to brush. And from letting them go to bed with sugary drinks in their bottles. And no, fat doesn't necessary make you diabetic. It does make you have coronary artery disease, heart problems, and a host of other health related problems. Which, since we're always on a rant about people who use "our" tax dollars for health care, if they don't have jobs with benefits comes directly out of our pockets.

My main point is this: If you have cash or a ebt card and you are in Walmart (or anywhere else), you have a choice on what to buy. Potato chips, soft drinks, and junk food is not the thing to put in your cart. And I don't care who you are or how much money you do or don't have, you can buy clothes that fit. You can go to the thrift store and get a tee shirt that covers your fat hairy stomach, or your enormous thighs for less than $2.00. You don't have to buy a wife beater at walmart for $5.00 or a pair of shorts ten sizes too small.

Inbred looking kids tend to look like their mother/aunts and their brother/fathers. Although they may look that way because they are pallid, with rotten teeth and thin hair because they've been fed food with zero nutrition since birth.
And, another thing, this is America. These are no the dreaded "illegal aliens" who don't speak English. I promise you these people have at least one TV in their house. At some point in time they've been able to stop and watch a show on healthy habits before they flip to American Idol. And, if they get through the sixth grade, there are health related classes in school.
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And no, fat doesn't necessary make you diabetic. It does make you have coronary artery disease, heart problems, and a host of other health related problems


It can contribute to, but it does not MAKE you have.
Studies show that on the average overweight people are healthier than thin people. Example being people that brag they can eat anything and not gain weight...so that's what they do. They eat anything and wind up with severe health problems because of their eating habits.

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Which, since we're always on a rant about people who use "our" tax dollars for health care, if they don't have jobs with benefits comes directly out of our pockets


I have never joined in that rant.
You, as a nurse and home health care/hospice worker, do you work with handicapped and elderly? Do you begrudge them the care you're paid to give because they may be on (tax dollar) medicaid or medicare?
And news flash... EVERYONE pays taxes in some form. Clothing, groceries, gas....the dreaded yearly car tag.
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Inbred looking kids tend to look like their mother/aunts and their brother/fathers


That remark is an insult to everyone that bears a resemblance to any of their family members.
Also to their parents and to their own children

...has anyone ever commented on you resembling your parents or an aunt or uncle? If so maybe you should practice saying "uncle daddy" and "aunt mommy."
do any of your children look like you or your husband? Can you say "Ge-net-ics" ?
I get what vick is saying. My brother was told by his doc that he was pre-diabetic(type 2). His youngest son, who is a junior in high school is headed that way. My brother has since lost a tremendous amount of weight by changing his eating habits. My nephew however eats junk and remains overweight, and that's because he has a full arsenal of junk at his beck and call because they buy it for him. Most claim buying junk food is more convenient, but how hard is it to eat an apple or peel and orange as opposed to opening a bag of cheetos.

Type 1 diabetes is different, however:
"Type 2 diabetes used to occur mainly in adults who were overweight and ages 40 and older. Now, as more children and adolescents in the United States become overweight and inactive, type 2 diabetes is occurring more often in young people." from here: http://ndep.nih.gov/diabetes/youth/youth_FS.htm
I wanna comment on the crooked teeth thing. I have a decent job, making fairly good money wiht dental insurance. I was reading the book that came with the insurance package and found out a little bit of information that surprised me. This particular insurance does not pay for braces for anyone over 18... if you are over 18 and need braces it is considered cosmetic. I checked with a few other people I know who have different insurance and found theirs to be the same. However, if I were to need braces, I would not be able to afford them because while I do make decent pay, I don't make enough to cover the cost of braces but make too much to get any type of financial help or onto any dental program. And, yes, my teeth are slightly yellowed, but my dentist told me this could be genetic, as a lot of dental problems are. Unfortunately, whitening treatments offered by dental practices are also considered cosmetic and the things you can buy in a drugstore, etc., rarely ever work like they say they do.
I know Gemini-Blue from working with her and before working with her she and I were acquaintances through others. She is'nt as overweight as one would think from reading her post or talking to her. She was diagnosed in her mid-20's, was diet controlled for 6 years (lost 86-lbs over that time), then had to go on insulin when she got pregnant (4 shots a day). The only symptom of diabetes she had was developing a headache the same time every day (about 2 hours after lunch). She was working for a very prominent physician who performed testing on her and found out she had diabetes. She had several miscarriages before she got pregnant this last time. During this last pregnancy she kept her blood sugar under perfect control, then at 6 months the baby decided to make it's appearance. She weighed 2-lbs at birth and today, 12 years later, is a normal 12 year old both height and weight-wise and has tested at the near-genius level on IQ tests. No long-lasting side effects from being a preemie or anything.

Gemini gained quite a bit of weight while pregnant, but the doctors all said it was because of the insulin and it's a good thing she was heavier because the baby was actually considered to be "big" for a 25-week baby (I can't imagine a 2-lb baby being considered "big"). Gemini knows the weight wasn't put on overnight and it's not going to come off overnight.She'll lose a few pounds and gain a few back, but for the most part she has lost more than she has gained back. She is being very sensible with her diet and weight loss. Vick13 should become a little more compassionate and know all her facts before making such judgements about others. Gemini has never said anything bad about or against anyone in her life (and believe me, she has had opportunity to really let loose on some people over the internet and in person), but she considers herself above "petty" things. Her opinion is that there is only person she has to answer to and He is not judgemental about things like that at all.

A lot of people could take lessons from her when it comes to being fair and loving towards everyone. She got a little upset when she found out I was going to do this post and told me not to let what others say about her get to me.
I've had my say, and, like Gemini, I'm gonna back off and let everything else slide off my back.
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Originally posted by T S C:
Must be something going on with the moon or the tides or the mojo in the universe. The forums are usually pretty funny and good natured.

Ya'll better watch out... you'll end up in CyberPrison! It is very lonely in there, and the food sucked!




LOL, I totally AGREE with you on that CyberPrison!!! You got FOOD???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL....

I am REFORMED now though, Cool
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by T S C:
Must be something going on with the moon or the tides or the mojo in the universe. The forums are usually pretty funny and good natured.

Ya'll better watch out... you'll end up in CyberPrison! It is very lonely in there, and the food sucked!




LOL, I totally AGREE with you on that CyberPrison!!! You got FOOD???? ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL....

I am REFORMED now though, Cool


Wait a minute... you didn't get food? I wonder, was that food they gave me punishment for being extra bad???
Is that what it is? Well, the heat seems to have affected one person in particular.
I really don't think I would want myself, or any loved ones, cared for by someone that clearly looks down their nose at others because of their looks and financial situation.
Professionally speaking, the majority of people like that are very insecure about their own looks and intelligence so they feel the need to attack others. If they can drag someone else to their level with insults and by making fun of them then they themselves don't feel so inferior.
However, since I don't know this person, saying she falls into that category would be me passing judgement and in my profession that is a big no-no.
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Originally posted by T S C:
In case the newbies on here didn't notice, let me tell you where you can find sympathy. It is in the dictionary right between $h|t and syphilis.


Aaaaaaaaaaah! HAAaaaaaaaaaa! I just died! Haaar!

I'm sure that's old as heck but . . . HAaaaaaaaaa!

Hah!


My old boss used to say that a lot. Another of his favorites was "Well, you know what the most commonly heard 4 letter word is in a whorrehouse is, don't you? NEXT!!!"

He was a real laugh riot.
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I get what vick is saying. My brother was told by his doc that he was pre-diabetic(type 2). His youngest son, who is a junior in high school is headed that way. My brother has since lost a tremendous amount of weight by changing his eating habits. My nephew however eats junk and remains overweight, and that's because he has a full arsenal of junk at his beck and call because they buy it for him. Most claim buying junk food is more convenient, but how hard is it to eat an apple or peel and orange as opposed to opening a bag of cheetos.


AT last somebody who gets what I'm saying. Thank you.
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Originally posted by vick13:
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Calling someone Tubby and making fun of others for the way they look is something a child would do. And it isn't very christian. Judge not.



And thank You, cb, for not judging me. That's nice to read.


Sweetie, you seem to have missed the point of what I was saying. Of course I am not going to judge you, but you, also, should not have judged others, which you have clearly done in several of your posts.
Now, was it really necessary to call someone "Tubby?"
And were the remarks and assumptions about the life style of Gemini and others necessary?
My dear, a true hearted, professionally trained health care provider does not behave in such a manner. The education of a health care provider covers areas such as proper demeanor even if their upbringing is lacking in such.
Being a reputable health care professional means being one 24-7, does it not?
And the name is Cee, not cb.
Sorry, cee. I had my answer thing up on top and couldn't see the whole name, oops. I don't know if anybody is tubby or not, I don't know you guys. And I don't know a blooming thing about Gemini in particular's life style. As a nurse, I tend to be a bit more critical of ones lifestyle because I see how hard it is to fix something once it's gone so far. It is much easier to stop it before it starts. Especially with children.

Honestly, I have a dear friend that has four children. She, her husband, and all four of the kids are obese. She's wonderful and I love her, but I have gone shopping with her, to Walmart, actually. She's always worried about her weight, her boys' weight, her husband needing knee replacements at 40 yr old, and her daughter not being able to get a date for the prom cause somebody made fun of her size. They're great kids. But...as we're walking through the store she's got TWO buggies full of chips, sodas, cookies, hot dogs, spaghetti-o's and nothing that resembles food. And that is just for the weekend. The two adults have a multitude of illnesses. The eight year old boy wears a 38 inch waist blue jean. And, yes, she is a nurse.

A lot of us, as nurses, get so frustrated at seeing these people we've tried all day to feed correctly, medicate, get physical therapy to teach them exercises, and a dietitian to help them eat right have family members coming in with buckets of fried chicken and Big Mac's.

I had one patient who was so large it took four nurses to get him off the bed onto a bedside commode. His brother and sister came in with a grocery sack of candy. Really. So, yes, we get frustrated.

I'm not, and was not, talking about people who are trying. I know how hard it is to not eat food that just sounds so good. But you have to make an effort, if not for your health, then for your children.

(I like a bowl of Chubby Hubby as much as anybody!)
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I don't know you guys. And I don't know a blooming thing about Gemini in particular's life style



Then making assumptions about her, and her lifestyle, was not exactly behavior becoming to one that knows better, right?
And the mention of your friend and her family. Would you be insulted if someone called her, or her children, "Tubby" or perhaps even "in-bred" looking?
I believe Puckerupfrog made some excellent points in that area. I was impressed by her insights and the way in which she expressed herself. I detect some good psychologically based training there.
And sweetie, I detect a kind heart in you or else you would not have become a nurse, right?
Please, let it shine.
PUF knows me well enough to not be that bent out of shape.

I never read anything at all about Gemini. I didn't read a post by her at all. I had just gotten back from Walmart and was commenting on the Walmart people I'd just seen. My comments had nothing at all to do with anybody on here. All of a sudden everybody just jumped me. I'm still reeling from people just turning on me like rabid creatures.

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