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The one sure thing to come out of this is that your daughter will be sorry later on. I know that is small comfort.

However, perhaps it can make your relationship with your wife's family closer. There's always a silver lining--sorry to sound so prosaic, but it's true.

Still, just why is you daughter letting her mother control her so? Isn't there some way she can stand up for herself. She should at least elope...
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Originally posted by SaltyDog:
DS, I'll bet she'll (your ex) find a way to make a scene or cause trouble about something anyway.


I've already heard from my ex-BIL that my EX was overheard saying '...her daddy didn't even come to his own daughter's wedding...'.

I was in a 'lose/lose' situation from the 'get go'.

As for the 'control' issue...look up 'PAS'(Parental Alienation Syndrome).
Well, DS, as presumed, your ex-wife is a controlling, deceitful, self-serving hag. God is NOT going to bless that. I'm serious. What goes around comes around. She will get what she's asking for and will get no sympathy from us because she worked so hard to get it. I also think that as your daughter matures and pulls away from the situation, she will see her mother for what she is. I know waiting stinks but it'll all come out in the wash. Wink
What a gorgeous smile!


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I've already heard from my ex-BIL that my EX was overheard saying '...her daddy didn't even come to his own daughter's wedding...'.


and what a b!tch....how long were you married to that? was she always that way?

meanwhile, we wait for the law of three to kick in...and to kick her in the a ss.
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Originally posted by (aka)PuckerupFrog:
What a gorgeous smile!


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I've already heard from my ex-BIL that my EX was overheard saying '...her daddy didn't even come to his own daughter's wedding...'.


and what a b!tch....how long were you married to that? was she always that way?

meanwhile, we wait for the law of three to kick in...and to kick her in the a ss.



We were married for almost 22 years. We dated for almost 3 years prior to getting married, though. No, she wasn't 'always like that'. The divorce of her dad and step-mom(ca. 1989), I think, was her 'breaking point'. Her dad was a BIG TIME East Tennessee CoC minister that had some BIG TIME 'skeletons' in his closet and was caught(literally) with his pants down.
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I think, was her 'breaking point'. Her dad was a BIG TIME East Tennessee CoC minister that had some BIG TIME 'skeletons' in his closet and was caught(literally) with his pants down.


wow, what a terrible thing to find out about your Dad...but still no excuse for the way she behaved in regards to your daughter's wedding, right?
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by monster:
we all need to meet down at old town that day and lift a glass. having been thru a similar situation, I hurt with you. thoughts and prayers...


I'll try and post some pics later. I'll take you up on the offer later this week. Wink
I work every night thru friday and will be out of town the weekend. so if the first of next week is good, we'll shoot for then.


Hey you two, can we all come????
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I've already heard from my ex-BIL that my EX was overheard saying '...her daddy didn't even come to his own daughter's wedding...'.

I was in a 'lose/lose' situation from the 'get go'.

As for the 'control' issue...look up 'PAS'(Parental Alienation Syndrome).
he knew the situation and didn't speak up? folks like that kill me. they both need to rot in the depths.
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Originally posted by monster:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I've already heard from my ex-BIL that my EX was overheard saying '...her daddy didn't even come to his own daughter's wedding...'.

I was in a 'lose/lose' situation from the 'get go'.

As for the 'control' issue...look up 'PAS'(Parental Alienation Syndrome).
he knew the situation and didn't speak up? folks like that kill me. they both need to rot in the depths.


Yes, he knew. And like myself, he didn't wish to 'cause a scene' at what was my daughter's 'special day'. An outburst of any sort would have simply given my EX what she desires: ATTENTION.
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Yes, he knew. And like myself, he didn't wish to 'cause a scene' at what was my daughter's 'special day'. An outburst of any sort would have simply given my EX what she desires: ATTENTION.



at some point maybe someone DOES need to cause a scene, and a big one....there are too many like your ex that get away with their sh!tty behavior because others don't want to cause a scene.... and they count on that so they can go on getting their own way.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
As I already stated, I was in a 'lose/lose' situation.


Dog,

Have you considered counseling?

You REALLY need to talk to someone besides us if you want to settle this silly situation once and for all.

Seriously, you need help.


Silly situation????

GoFish, you really need to just go the F*** away.........
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Originally posted by allysmom:
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
As I already stated, I was in a 'lose/lose' situation.


Dog,

Have you considered counseling?

You REALLY need to talk to someone besides us if you want to settle this silly situation once and for all.

Seriously, you need help.


Silly situation????

GoFish, you really need to just go the F*** away.........



I don't think they MAKE counseling that makes an absent parent not love their kid, and a custodial parent making their kid hate the other one like this.

Your answer was totally out of line, and I have to say that I ADMIRE DS so much for how he handled this situation.

He handled it like a true gentleman!!!!

What did HE do to make YOU turn on him so???
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Gofish, since you are only make believe and not real, I mean you admit you are not the way in person, as you are on here, how can you suggest someone needs help.
DS, don't listen to Gofish.


I bet he is the SAME in person as on here, unclegus. One can only keep up a facade' for so long, then it slips.

And DS, your daughter is gorgeous, and someday she WILL make it all up to you what you missed out on THIS ONE time!!!!
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I hope to God, you never experience the pain this dad has felt.


Who the hell are you to assume I haven't? And you think you got bad? At this very moment, I am assisting a woman who's young son was MURDERED recently. I have another client who's son will killed in a car accident two years ago and she is still a walking zombie.

Look, you've got some very deep, disturbing issues that you need help with. These good folks on this board are too nice to tell you that but it seems to be true. I'm not saying you are disturbed - I don't know you. I'm not saying the issues are your fault, your ex's, your daughter's or anyones else's. You have revealed a few person issues since I've been hanging around here and I think you are a walking time bomb.

When I stated "silly" earlier, it was just a figure of speech. I meant no offense, promise. But turning to us forum morons ("forons") for the serious help you need? Now THAT'S really silly.

So, you can keep whining about your personal issues or seek professional help. That is the best advice you will ever receive. PM me for a name and phone number of someone who really can help.

Or not. Smiler
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Originally posted by allysmom:
You take comfort in knowing that you do have friends here that care and share that pain with you..


"Friends"? So do y'all hang out? Buy him dinner? Has a single one of you offered to do something "real" for this person?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Where I come from, folks whose name you don't even know are not called "friends." A friend is someone who will tell you the truth. Even when it hurts.

Especially when it hurts.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I hope to God, you never experience the pain this dad has felt.


Who the hell are you to assume I haven't? And you think you got bad? At this very moment, I am assisting a woman who's young son was MURDERED recently. I have another client who's son will killed in a car accident two years ago and she is still a walking zombie.

Look, you've got some very deep, disturbing issues that you need help with. These good folks on this board are too nice to tell you that but it seems to be true. I'm not saying you are disturbed - I don't know you. I'm not saying the issues are your fault, your ex's, your daughter's or anyones else's. You have revealed a few person issues since I've been hanging around here and I think you are a walking time bomb.

When I stated "silly" earlier, it was just a figure of speech. I meant no offense, promise. But turning to us forum morons ("forons") for the serious help you need? Now THAT'S really silly.

So, you can keep whining about your personal issues or seek professional help. That is the best advice you will ever receive. PM me for a name and phone number of someone who really can help.

Or not. Smiler


GoFish, just because you have "assisted" a couple of people, who have heartaches, does not mean that you have any idea of what DS is experiencing. I cannot imagine how you could be any help to anyone. You seem to be cold, uncaring, indifferent, and cynical. I think you would probably be one of the last places I would turn for help, or advice. You also seem to be hateful and judgemental.

Why would you tell DS that he has some deep, disturbing issues that he needs help with? Sherlock, I don't mean to shoot you down here, but, I think he worked that out for himself. As far as him whinning about personal issues, I don't hear him whinning. He is discussing an issue that is near and dear to his heart. I don't think that he has any notion that we are going to solve this issue for him. I can tell you that he can be made to feel better about the situation, just by knowing that other people have been through similar situations, and/or they just simply care that he has to endure.

As far as professional help, that may be an option for DS. Then again, if he gets into a situation with a pro with your attitude and temperment, I don't really see where they would be of any help, regardless of whatever is hanging in a frame on their wall.

I for one, do not appreciate you calling me a forum moron. You know nothing of me. You go as far as to say he is a walking time bomb. That is amazing that you can know so much about DS, just from what you have read here.

This may seriously be a case of "...heal thy self". You maybe could really benefit from some professional counseling. I think you said you had a name and a number. I know that you didn't ask for help/advice, didn't cost you a dime. Who knows, you may thank me one day. Hey, if it doesn't help anything, but to make you a little sweeter, it will have been worth it.

Btw, you wouldn't, by any chance, have issues with your mother, would you? Wink

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