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Originally posted by gypsyc:
GoFish, just because you have "assisted" a couple of people, who have heartaches, does not mean that you have any idea of what DS is experiencing. I cannot imagine how you could be any help to anyone. You seem to be cold, uncaring, indifferent, and cynical. I think you would probably be one of the last places I would turn for help, or advice. You also seem to be hateful and judgemental.


I'm the best man for you if you need my kind of services. But I'm obviously not a counselor. But I can easily spot a man who does need counseling. DS needs help. I can smell it a mile away. Those of you who deny that are not "friends." You are the type of people who would buy an alcoholic a beer.

You think I'm "cold hearted" because I feel strongly that DS should get some real help? Doesn't that sound kind of silly? I have personally witnessed the wonderful benefits that a good counselor can provide. I am now passionate about urging people to get help if they are hurting. DS is hurting. He has been hurting for a long time. If you people can't see that, I submit that you are even less sensitive than I.

Someone here needs to say what needs to be said. DS needs help. Professional help. Not a bunch of enablers.

I sill have a name and number for an incredible counselor who has been of tremendous help to me, my family and my friends. PM and you shall have it.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by gypsyc:
GoFish, just because you have "assisted" a couple of people, who have heartaches, does not mean that you have any idea of what DS is experiencing. I cannot imagine how you could be any help to anyone. You seem to be cold, uncaring, indifferent, and cynical. I think you would probably be one of the last places I would turn for help, or advice. You also seem to be hateful and judgemental.


I'm the best man for you if you need my kind of services. But I'm obviously not a counselor. But I can easily spot a man who does need counseling. DS needs help. I can smell it a mile away. Those of you who deny that are not "friends." You are the type of people who would buy an alcoholic a beer.

You think I'm "cold hearted" because I feel strongly that DS should get some real help? Doesn't that sound kind of silly? I have personally witnessed the wonderful benefits that a good counselor can provide. I am now passionate about urging people to get help if they are hurting. DS is hurting. He has been hurting for a long time. If you people can't see that, I submit that you are even less sensitive than I.

Someone here needs to say what needs to be said. DS needs help. Professional help. Not a bunch of enablers.

I sill have a name and number for an incredible counselor who has been of tremendous help to me, my family and my friends. PM and you shall have it.


I did not deny that professional help may be an option. Where do you get that 'we people' are the type that would buy an alcoholic a beer? These kind of blanket statements are so maddening to me.

How are we enablers? Another blanket statement. Enabling him to do what? Do you believe that because he is hurting and says so that this is something that needs to be stopped, as in drugs or alcohol?

DS simply voiced an issue that is near/dear to his heart. I don't think that he expects us to fix it. I am almost sure that he is not about to jump off a near bridge over this either. He may never solve this issue. Not all issues are solved. Often times, they are managed. I think that he realizes that this is a time managed issue as well.

What is wrong with our showing compassion here? No, we do not know his name. Would his situation change just because we did? Would we give different advice/support if we knew his name?

My point was/is, where you are passionate, you don't seem to be very compassionate.

I don't think that DS wants you to fix this. I think he wants you to listen. I think he wants to know that he is not in this boat alone.

I am glad that you, your family, and friends have been helped thru counseling. That was never and issue. My issue with you, your attitude and insensivtity...maybe more counseling...you still didn't apologize for calling 'strangers' "morons". Passion is one thing, rudeness is something entirely different.

You seem to be a somewhat intelligent person, who may have some interesting insight on several issues. But...the way you come across is offensive. This forum is a place where we discuss issues and exchange ideas, not insults.

I feel that you owe all of us an apology. You made a blanket statement, calling all of us forum morons. I know that you included yourself there, still...if that is your idea of who you are, well...you do know yourself better than anyone else. You do not know the rest of us. You do not need to resort to schoolyard name calling. We can discuss without that. We invite you to join us...just after you apologize.
I'm sorry about your problem DOG. I hope things work out for you.

I would like to make a statement and I don't want to offend anyone. You said you were a police officer. I have known several police officers over the years. Most of them have marriage problems. I have heard them blame it on the JOB. That could be true, but I think in most cases it is the the person and the job together.

Policeman seem to hang out in cafes and coffee shops where they meet waitresses, and other females. They also meet a lot of females during their everyday work routine. Some women are attracted to police officers. As man I know it can be hard to turn down a good looking woman's advances when she consistently hits on you.

If your married it can cause trouble. If your single and you fall pray to one of these women you can get caught in a trap. The little head thinks for the big head and all of a sudden your married to a bi-tch.

Could your situation be a result of your position as a LEO?
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
You take comfort in knowing that you do have friends here that care and share that pain with you..


"Friends"? So do y'all hang out? Buy him dinner? Has a single one of you offered to do something "real" for this person?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Where I come from, folks whose name you don't even know are not called "friends." A friend is someone who will tell you the truth. Even when it hurts.

Especially when it hurts.



I have friends on here, I know them OFF this site.
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Originally posted by gypsyc:
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by gypsyc:
GoFish, just because you have "assisted" a couple of people, who have heartaches, does not mean that you have any idea of what DS is experiencing. I cannot imagine how you could be any help to anyone. You seem to be cold, uncaring, indifferent, and cynical. I think you would probably be one of the last places I would turn for help, or advice. You also seem to be hateful and judgemental.


I'm the best man for you if you need my kind of services. But I'm obviously not a counselor. But I can easily spot a man who does need counseling. DS needs help. I can smell it a mile away. Those of you who deny that are not "friends." You are the type of people who would buy an alcoholic a beer.

You think I'm "cold hearted" because I feel strongly that DS should get some real help? Doesn't that sound kind of silly? I have personally witnessed the wonderful benefits that a good counselor can provide. I am now passionate about urging people to get help if they are hurting. DS is hurting. He has been hurting for a long time. If you people can't see that, I submit that you are even less sensitive than I.

Someone here needs to say what needs to be said. DS needs help. Professional help. Not a bunch of enablers.

I sill have a name and number for an incredible counselor who has been of tremendous help to me, my family and my friends. PM and you shall have it.


I did not deny that professional help may be an option. Where do you get that 'we people' are the type that would buy an alcoholic a beer? These kind of blanket statements are so maddening to me.

How are we enablers? Another blanket statement. Enabling him to do what? Do you believe that because he is hurting and says so that this is something that needs to be stopped, as in drugs or alcohol?

DS simply voiced an issue that is near/dear to his heart. I don't think that he expects us to fix it. I am almost sure that he is not about to jump off a near bridge over this either. He may never solve this issue. Not all issues are solved. Often times, they are managed. I think that he realizes that this is a time managed issue as well.

What is wrong with our showing compassion here? No, we do not know his name. Would his situation change just because we did? Would we give different advice/support if we knew his name?

My point was/is, where you are passionate, you don't seem to be very compassionate.

I don't think that DS wants you to fix this. I think he wants you to listen. I think he wants to know that he is not in this boat alone.

I am glad that you, your family, and friends have been helped thru counseling. That was never and issue. My issue with you, your attitude and insensivtity...maybe more counseling...you still didn't apologize for calling 'strangers' "morons". Passion is one thing, rudeness is something entirely different.

You seem to be a somewhat intelligent person, who may have some interesting insight on several issues. But...the way you come across is offensive. This forum is a place where we discuss issues and exchange ideas, not insults.

I feel that you owe all of us an apology. You made a blanket statement, calling all of us forum morons. I know that you included yourself there, still...if that is your idea of who you are, well...you do know yourself better than anyone else. You do not know the rest of us. You do not need to resort to schoolyard name calling. We can discuss without that. We invite you to join us...just after you apologize.



VERY well said, eloquently even Smiler
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
I hope to God, you never experience the pain this dad has felt.


Who the hell are you to assume I haven't? And you think you got bad? At this very moment, I am assisting a woman who's young son was MURDERED recently. I have another client who's son will killed in a car accident two years ago and she is still a walking zombie.

Look, you've got some very deep, disturbing issues that you need help with. These good folks on this board are too nice to tell you that but it seems to be true. I'm not saying you are disturbed - I don't know you. I'm not saying the issues are your fault, your ex's, your daughter's or anyones else's. You have revealed a few person issues since I've been hanging around here and I think you are a walking time bomb.

When I stated "silly" earlier, it was just a figure of speech. I meant no offense, promise. But turning to us forum morons ("forons") for the serious help you need? Now THAT'S really silly.

So, you can keep whining about your personal issues or seek professional help. That is the best advice you will ever receive. PM me for a name and phone number of someone who really can help.

Or not. Smiler



And you want a pat on the back for this,......WHY????????

You got PAID for it, didn't you??? Wink
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
You take comfort in knowing that you do have friends here that care and share that pain with you..


"Friends"? So do y'all hang out? Buy him dinner? Has a single one of you offered to do something "real" for this person?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Where I come from, folks whose name you don't even know are not called "friends." A friend is someone who will tell you the truth. Even when it hurts.

Especially when it hurts.


For your info, yes I do know dogsoldiers name and the names of many more on here. Met lots of them. Jealous?? and if I had never met him, there is nothing wrong with feeling the pain that him, or someone else is going through. So what if you have "assisted" someone that has been through something devastating in their lives, big difference in assisting someone and living through it yourself. I have not seen one ounce of anger from dogsoldier, only hurt, and he wanted to share that hurt with his "friends", and that is better than keeping it all bottled up inside him... you should know that..
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Originally posted by allysmom:
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by allysmom:
You take comfort in knowing that you do have friends here that care and share that pain with you..


"Friends"? So do y'all hang out? Buy him dinner? Has a single one of you offered to do something "real" for this person?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Where I come from, folks whose name you don't even know are not called "friends." A friend is someone who will tell you the truth. Even when it hurts.

Especially when it hurts.


For your info, yes I do know dogsoldiers name and the names of many more on here. Met lots of them. Jealous?? and if I had never met him, there is nothing wrong with feeling the pain that him, or someone else is going through. So what if you have "assisted" someone that has been through something devastating in their lives, big difference in assisting someone and living through it yourself. I have not seen one ounce of anger from dogsoldier, only hurt, and he wanted to share that hurt with his "friends", and that is better than keeping it all bottled up inside him... you should know that..



I love the way you said that!!!

I just get the 'feeling' that there are some people on this planet that REFUSES to be happy and accept people for who they are and what they say.
I know this has gotten way bigger than dogsoldier ever intended. He only stated his frustration about a life issue concerning something very dear to him. He never, not once asked for advise. He only chose to share this info with us because he knew we would share the pain with him.
Most of the times the best therapy, is to just be heard. Sometimes you can feel all alone with your pain, it does a person a lot of help just to know that you are not the only person to have experienced what you go through in life. If dogsoldier thinks he needs professional help, that is his business, and not for any of us to decide. I would hate to think of what this world would be like if we all had to go to a shrink to deal all our troubles.
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong. I suggest you try to see things through others eyes for once, and realize it is not all about yourself. There are many different lifestyles and opinions, and it takes them all to make the cog complete. I do see some of your opinions worthy, but you cross the line to many times by being judgmental on others and when you start calling names, you certainly do not win any points. Lighten up and try to understand others thoughts before you make judgment.
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Originally posted by unclegus:
I know this has gotten way bigger than dogsoldier ever intended. He only stated his frustration about a life issue concerning something very dear to him. He never, not once asked for advise. He only chose to share this info with us because he knew we would share the pain with him.
Most of the times the best therapy, is to just be heard. Sometimes you can feel all alone with your pain, it does a person a lot of help just to know that you are not the only person to have experienced what you go through in life. If dogsoldier thinks he needs professional help, that is his business, and not for any of us to decide. I would hate to think of what this world would be like if we all had to go to a shrink to deal all our troubles.
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong. I suggest you try to see things through others eyes for once, and realize it is not all about yourself. There are many different lifestyles and opinions, and it takes them all to make the cog complete. I do see some of your opinions worthy, but you cross the line to many times by being judgmental on others and when you start calling names, you certainly do not win any points. Lighten up and try to understand others thoughts before you make judgment.



unclegus, you are my HERO of the day!!!!
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong.


I'm "wrong" to suggest that someone in pain get some help? How the hell is that even slightly out of line, much less "utterly" out of line? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

I will readily apologize if I have truly said someone truly offensive but telling DS that he needs professional help is about as offensive as suggesting you take an aspirin!

Ever since I joined up here, DS has reveled quite a bit about himself. None of that is happy. He can't find a job. He's lonely. Has an abusive ex. Has a daughter with no balls. He has some serious issues folks. Much more than the average person has to deal with.

AND YOU PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED THAT I SUGGEST HE GET SOME HELP?

I just don't see what in the world y'all are getting so freaking upset about. This is just crazy.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong.


I'm "wrong" to suggest that someone in pain get some help? How the hell is that even slightly out of line, much less "utterly" out of line? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

I will readily apologize if I have truly said someone truly offensive but telling DS that he needs professional help is about as offensive as suggesting you take an aspirin!

Ever since I joined up here, DS has reveled quite a bit about himself. None of that is happy. He can't find a job. He's lonely. Has an abusive ex. Has a daughter with no balls. He has some serious issues folks. Much more than the average person has to deal with.

AND YOU PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED THAT I SUGGEST HE GET SOME HELP?

I just don't see what in the world y'all are getting so freaking upset about. This is just crazy.


What is crazy, is the fact that you cannot be reasoned with. You have been told numerous times, by any number of people, that your communication skills are lacking. You just don't seem to get it.

Nor do you get it that you shoud apologize for calling an entire mass of people morons.

Do you know the definition of crazy? It is continuing to do the same thing/things and expecting different results.

You continue to be rude and offensive and expect respect and understanding. Not going to happen.

DS did not say that he was lonely. He is not the only one that I know of that is not really impressed by the behavior of his ex...could be why she is his ex. You have absolutely no right saying rude things about his daughter. Again, you do not know her. He understands, where you do not, that his daughter was put in a bad situation. Her mother was making demands and very well could have ruined her wedding, had her father shown up. What would you have told her do? I can only imagine.

As for him not being able to get a job...my understanding is that he has not been able to find a job in his line of work...that he wants. He is evidentally overqualified for what is available, from what I understand.

Again, I don't think he enlisted you to solve any of his problems. He simply voiced his frustrations as to what was happening with his daughter and her wedding. He did no more, and no less than the rest of us do at any given time. We are here, on a discussion forum, to discuss.

I don't think that there is a person on here who is without faults or problems. Some of us have more than others. You seem to have a lot of problems. Maybe you could start listening to advice, maybe more counseling, maybe meditation...whatever will help. I want you to know that we are all in support of you getting some kind of help for your anger issues, the attitude, etc. We are a caring bunch, and we will be right in your corner, if you learn to play nice. Until then, you still owe us an apology. We are not morons.
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Originally posted by gypsyc:
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong.


I'm "wrong" to suggest that someone in pain get some help? How the hell is that even slightly out of line, much less "utterly" out of line? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

I will readily apologize if I have truly said someone truly offensive but telling DS that he needs professional help is about as offensive as suggesting you take an aspirin!

Ever since I joined up here, DS has reveled quite a bit about himself. None of that is happy. He can't find a job. He's lonely. Has an abusive ex. Has a daughter with no balls. He has some serious issues folks. Much more than the average person has to deal with.

AND YOU PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED THAT I SUGGEST HE GET SOME HELP?

I just don't see what in the world y'all are getting so freaking upset about. This is just crazy.


What is crazy, is the fact that you cannot be reasoned with. You have been told numerous times, by any number of people, that your communication skills are lacking. You just don't seem to get it.

Nor do you get it that you shoud apologize for calling an entire mass of people morons.

Do you know the definition of crazy? It is continuing to do the same thing/things and expecting different results.

You continue to be rude and offensive and expect respect and understanding. Not going to happen.

DS did not say that he was lonely. He is not the only one that I know of that is not really impressed by the behavior of his ex...could be why she is his ex. You have absolutely no right saying rude things about his daughter. Again, you do not know her. He understands, where you do not, that his daughter was put in a bad situation. Her mother was making demands and very well could have ruined her wedding, had her father shown up. What would you have told her do? I can only imagine.

As for him not being able to get a job...my understanding is that he has not been able to find a job in his line of work...that he wants. He is evidentally overqualified for what is available, from what I understand.

Again, I don't think he enlisted you to solve any of his problems. He simply voiced his frustrations as to what was happening with his daughter and her wedding. He did no more, and no less than the rest of us do at any given time. We are here, on a discussion forum, to discuss.

I don't think that there is a person on here who is without faults or problems. Some of us have more than others. You seem to have a lot of problems. Maybe you could start listening to advice, maybe more counseling, maybe meditation...whatever will help. I want you to know that we are all in support of you getting some kind of help for your anger issues, the attitude, etc. We are a caring bunch, and we will be right in your corner, if you learn to play nice. Until then, you still owe us an apology. We are not morons.



Nothing more can be added, you said it all.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
Gofish, you are entirely out of line to make such a suggestion, but it is clear you are not normal. You have proven that many times over on this board. You really need to wake up and realize where you are wrong.


I'm "wrong" to suggest that someone in pain get some help? How the hell is that even slightly out of line, much less "utterly" out of line? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone!

I will readily apologize if I have truly said someone truly offensive but telling DS that he needs professional help is about as offensive as suggesting you take an aspirin!

Ever since I joined up here, DS has reveled quite a bit about himself. None of that is happy. He can't find a job. He's lonely. Has an abusive ex. Has a daughter with no balls. He has some serious issues folks. Much more than the average person has to deal with.

AND YOU PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED THAT I SUGGEST HE GET SOME HELP?

I just don't see what in the world y'all are getting so freaking upset about. This is just crazy.
First of all, if ya from the south, its "ya'll" not "y'all".... y'all is you all,.... we dont say that here. Second, you are an arrogant jerk. Some thought it, i said it. Third, IMHO, you arent qualified to tell DS he needs help...... he only posted this problem because he needed to talk,.... that doesnt mean he is mental,..... just means he is human. Forth i am not offended...... i knew you were a jerk before this thread. Fifth,..... im not gonna say it...... i'll get banned.
First, DS, your daughter is beautiful. I'm so very sorry that things didn't work out so that you did get to attend the wedding.

As for counseling, any of us could benefit from counseling; however, in this case, I think you may just need some time to recover from this emotional slap in the face.

I hope you don't mind if I ask one personal question, since you brought the subject up. You say your wife, if I understand correctly, was a good and faithful companion to you for 25 years before she changed. I may have inferred too much here--let me know if I did. If she only became vitriolic due to an emotional upset about her father (and this seems like a whopper of an upset), did you try to stick by her at first and see that she get some counseling? Could your daughter blame you for not doing this?
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Originally posted by OriginalBama:
First of all, if ya from the south, its "ya'll" not "y'all".... y'all is you all,....


Umm, no, y'all is spelled y'all. In English, you place the apostrophe where a word or words are missing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y'all

I guess that does kind of illustrate a point though: Y'ALL are uneducated. Y'ALL still live in a time where the suggestion of getting professional help carries a stigma.

In these modern times, there is no such stigma.

At least a couple of people have PM'd me to let me know that I'm right on about DS needing some help. Thank you to those folks for restoring my faith that at least some of Y'ALL aren't completely losing it.

I was evidently not aware that "getting "professional help" still carries a stigma for some folks. That is truly sad.
Gofish, quit it. Nobody is worried about counseling being a stigma. They're just telling you that on this particular thread the guy just wanted to vent about the ex. If all of us had to be counseled every time an ex pisses us off, we'd be lined up like women at public bathrooms. And they aren't uneducated, doofus.

I personally think everybody could benefit from counseling. Thing is, pretty much every counselor I've known has gotten into that business because of their own "issues".

Your being so negative and grumpy all the time makes it hard to put faith in a positive referral from you, buddy.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Gofish, quit it. Nobody is worried about counseling being a stigma. They're just telling you that on this particular thread the guy just wanted to vent about the ex. If all of us had to be counseled every time an ex pisses us off, we'd be lined up like women at public bathrooms. And they aren't uneducated, doofus.

I personally think everybody could benefit from counseling. Thing is, pretty much every counselor I've known has gotten into that business because of their own "issues".

Your being so negative and grumpy all the time makes it hard to put faith in a positive referral from you, buddy.


Thank you, yet another voice of reason.
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Originally posted by vick13:
Gofish, quit it. Nobody is worried about counseling being a stigma. They're just telling you that on this particular thread the guy just wanted to vent about the ex. If all of us had to be counseled every time an ex pisses us off, we'd be lined up like women at public bathrooms. And they aren't uneducated, doofus.

I personally think everybody could benefit from counseling. Thing is, pretty much every counselor I've known has gotten into that business because of their own "issues".

Your being so negative and grumpy all the time makes it hard to put faith in a positive referral from you, buddy.



AMEN Vick, and very well said!!!
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Originally posted by Confederate Pride:
I'm sorry about your problem DOG. I hope things work out for you.

I would like to make a statement and I don't want to offend anyone. You said you were a police officer. I have known several police officers over the years. Most of them have marriage problems. I have heard them blame it on the JOB. That could be true, but I think in most cases it is the the person and the job together.

Policeman seem to hang out in cafes and coffee shops where they meet waitresses, and other females. They also meet a lot of females during their everyday work routine. Some women are attracted to police officers. As man I know it can be hard to turn down a good looking woman's advances when she consistently hits on you.

If your married it can cause trouble. If your single and you fall pray to one of these women you can get caught in a trap. The little head thinks for the big head and all of a sudden your married to a bi-tch.

Could your situation be a result of your position as a LEO?
CP, your 'reposting' your last comment implies that YOU think I was, in some way, 'ducking' it. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I was at work.

I am WELL AWARE of the trials and temptations LEOs face in their line of work. The temptation to 'abuse the position' is always there. The same can be said for doctors, or anyone else in a high stress job.

However, what you implied 'might' have happened, didn't. BUT...was my job as an LEO 'at fault' in some way? Perhaps. I enjoyed it. There is no denying it. And as such, I worked every hour I could. As a part-time LEO, I often averaged 100 hours/month. This was IN ADDITON TO being a full-time teacher.

There is NOTHING like 'running code' to a call and not knowing what you're going to find. There is NOTHING as satisfying as placing cuffs on a spousal abuser. There is NOTHING like having little kids run TOWARDS you, when you pull into their housing project...instead of AWAY from you.

Since I was patrolling the town in which my students lived, I had a VESTED INTEREST in what went on in OUR town. Most of those spectators killed and injured in the Cars for Kids tragedy last Father's Day weekend were MY former students. You have no ida what I felt upon hearing what happened. As fate would have it, my wife and I arrived at the event immediately following the accident, totally unaware of what had just transpired. That is the only time I have thanked God that I wasn't still working as an officer in that town.

Yes, there was an 'incident' involving my EX...an 'accusation', actually...and I stood by her 100%. However, in looking back, in light of events over the past 3+ years, I now have my doubts.

BTW...as some of my 'friends' on here are aware, I have found employment in my chosen profession. Thanks for all the well-wishes and prayers.
[Quote]GoFish: At this very moment, I am assisting a woman who's young son was MURDERED recently. I have another client who's son will killed in a car accident two years ago and she is still a walking zombie.[Quote]

YOU are assisting people that are grieving???? With your attitude about life & people in general, I feel sorry for these people that you are assisting! Someone needs to step in, get your butt out of the way and find them some compassionate help.

DG has more compassion & love in his little finger than you do in your entire body!
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
DG has more compassion & love in his little finger than you do in your entire body!


With respect, you "know" me about as well as I "know" you. Please people, we are anonymous avatars conversing with other anonymous avatars. No one "knows" anyone here (except for those who personally know each other). As far as we know, DS (or you or me) could be a wife beater or a saint.

Before I let this one go, can someone tell me: Exactly what did I say that was so offensive in my first post? Was it the "us morons" quote or . . . What? I really do not understand.
Gofish, I don't doubt you have good intentions. You should really work on your presentations. Instead of calling people names and telling them they need to do something, try for one time making a suggestion instead of putting them below you. Try looking others in the eye instead of being so athoritive.
For instance: If you had asked DS, have you considered talking to a professional? instead of you need to seek professional help. It would make a big difference. Try to think about the way others are going to react before you make your statement. It just might get you a long way as far as showing concern about others.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
can someone tell me: Exactly what did I say that was so offensive in my first post? I really do not understand.


Why don't you go back to the beginning of this discussion? Read what DS had to say, then read your comments. If you concentrate real hard, you just may get it! Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by unclegus:
try for one time making a suggestion instead of putting them below you. Try looking others in the eye instead of being so athoritive.


Probably good advice, Unk. Thanks. I did mean it as a suggestion but, given my reputation of occasionally stirring the post, I do understand how it could have come off differently. I'll try to work harder on conveying my true emotions. Here is my entire original post. I presume most of you read it imagining me with an angry grimace on my face:

"Have you considered counseling? You REALLY need to talk to someone besides us if you want to settle this silly situation once and for all. Seriously, you need help."

Now read it again but imagine me typing it looking like Jesus painted on velvet. THAT'S how it was intended and I stand by my assertion. If his various writings here are any indication, DS needs counseling more than any person I actually DO know.

If Y'ALL still find that offensive, well "kiss it" is about the nicest thing I can say. Smiler
I am happy we are able to work this out. I have to put some thought on what I put on here. Sometimes I read what I type before I post it, and think, that is to offensive. Sometimes I can re-word it, most of the times I just have to refrain from posting my thoughts. If someone steps over the line, I wind up letting it all out.
One very important thing to keep in mind is, always be prepared to back up and appoligise if someone calls you on your words. It is a whole lot easier to move along, then to have a whole group of people opposite of you because of a wrong wording.
I am not perfect, and as I have said before, you could write a whole big book on what I don't know, but I am willing to learn. Something else I learned from Dog the bounty hunter is, anytime you bring someone down, it is real important to bring them back up before you depart, this is something you may not get a second chance to do. I prefer to have friends than enemies.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
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Originally posted by unclegus:
try for one time making a suggestion instead of putting them below you. Try looking others in the eye instead of being so athoritive.


Probably good advice, Unk. Thanks. I did mean it as a suggestion but, given my reputation of occasionally stirring the post, I do understand how it could have come off differently. I'll try to work harder on conveying my true emotions. Here is my entire original post. I presume most of you read it imagining me with an angry grimace on my face:

"Have you considered counseling? You REALLY need to talk to someone besides us if you want to settle this silly situation once and for all. Seriously, you need help."

Now read it again but imagine me typing it looking like Jesus painted on velvet. THAT'S how it was intended and I stand by my assertion. If his various writings here are any indication, DS needs counseling more than any person I actually DO know.

If Y'ALL still find that offensive, well "kiss it" is about the nicest thing I can say. Smiler



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There are some very smart people here on this forum, I mean VERY smart.

But I do NOT think that any of them can tell by one's typing if they need professional help or not. Oh it can be said in anger or frustration.

But no one knows for sure, and to SAY it, and then stand behind it after so many told you they didn't think so, is just plain insulting to anyone on this site with half a brain.
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Originally posted by GoFish:
Probably good advice, Unk.

VERY good advice he gave you. Now if you could just take it & apply it to yourself!

[Quote]I did mean it as a suggestion but, reputation of occasionally stirring the post, I do understand how it could have come off differently.[Quote]

You do indeed have a way of stirring the pot! If someone says yes, you are definitely going to say no.

[Quote]I'll try to work harder on conveying my true emotions.[Quote]

That would be nice, but I don't think you have a compassionate nature.

[Quote]Now read it again but imagine me typing it looking like Jesus painted on velvet.[Quote]

IMPOSSIBLE! Since you are a self proclaimed atheist, why would you even make a statement like that? (Don't answer that question) Big Grin

[Quote]THAT'S how it was intended and I stand by my assertion. If his various writings here are any indication, DS needs counseling more than any person I actually DO know.
If Y'ALL still find that offensive, well "kiss it" is about the nicest thing I can say. Smiler

You just can't find it in yourself to apologize to DS, and leave it at that, can you?
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Originally posted by Taciturn:
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Originally posted by GoFish:
Probably good advice, Unk.

VERY good advice he gave you. Now if you could just take it & apply it to yourself!

[Quote]I did mean it as a suggestion but, reputation of occasionally stirring the post, I do understand how it could have come off differently.[Quote]

You do indeed have a way of stirring the pot! If someone says yes, you are definitely going to say no.

[Quote]I'll try to work harder on conveying my true emotions.[Quote]

That would be nice, but I don't think you have a compassionate nature.

[Quote]Now read it again but imagine me typing it looking like Jesus painted on velvet.[Quote]

IMPOSSIBLE! Since you are a self proclaimed atheist, why would you even make a statement like that? (Don't answer that question) Big Grin

[Quote]THAT'S how it was intended and I stand by my assertion. If his various writings here are any indication, DS needs counseling more than any person I actually DO know.
If Y'ALL still find that offensive, well "kiss it" is about the nicest thing I can say. Smiler

You just can't find it in yourself to apologize to DS, and leave it at that, can you?



I do not know of ANYONE who likes THAT much ego, do you??? Roll Eyes

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