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Originally posted by beternU:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 46:1:
He attends the church that has THIS as part of their church doctrine.

Read down to #8 (3)


Can anyone tell me what they find offensive in that Black Value System? It is a set of guidelines like the PromiseKeepers or the Knights of Columbus or any other organization has in place. This set of guidelines simply addresses blacks. Bill Cosby has made similar statements and no one tried to crucify him for it. This church is simply urging it's membership to turn away from the negative stereotypes of the "black person" as being ignorant and poor. They are urging their members to make something of themselves, help our their neighbors, and stop the violence that has been prevalent in the black community for way too long. Tell me - what is wrong with that?
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Originally posted by T S C:
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Originally posted by beternU:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 46:1:
He attends the church that has THIS as part of their church doctrine.

Read down to #8 (3)


Can anyone tell me what they find offensive in that Black Value System? It is a set of guidelines like the PromiseKeepers or the Knights of Columbus or any other organization has in place. This set of guidelines simply addresses blacks. Bill Cosby has made similar statements and no one tried to crucify him for it. This church is simply urging it's membership to turn away from the negative stereotypes of the "black person" as being ignorant and poor. They are urging their members to make something of themselves, help our their neighbors, and stop the violence that has been prevalent in the black community for way too long. Tell me - what is wrong with that?


Nothing really. The church Obama attends is not violating any laws with its principles and standards. But just watch for someone to come out big time and try to make a case that his church is some kind of militant and dangerous group. The same kind of dingbats that continue to insist he is Muslim should find no reason not to distort his actual beliefs or vilify his church. Politics can be a NASTY business.
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Can anyone tell me what they find offensive in that Black Value System? It is a set of guidelines like the PromiseKeepers or the Knights of Columbus or any other organization has in place. This set of guidelines simply addresses blacks. Bill Cosby has made similar statements and no one tried to crucify him for it. This church is simply urging it's membership to turn away from the negative stereotypes of the "black person" as being ignorant and poor. They are urging their members to make something of themselves, help our their neighbors, and stop the violence that has been prevalent in the black community for way too long. Tell me - what is wrong with that?



I don't find it offensive, I find it alarming.

I posted to scroll down to #8 (3), you addressed #1 and #2...why did you leave out #3, the 'racist' part?

"Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of “we” and “they” instead of “us.”"

in other words, don't go out and be a successful 'American"...you MUST be a successful 'black' American.


Why must color/race have anything to do with it if it is not racist?

And no, Bill Cosby never said to differentiate between the races. Actually right the opposite.


TRhe Knights of Columbus and the Promise keepers are not seeking a position that would have control over all races while bound by church doctrine to favor ONE race over others.
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Nothing really. The church Obama attends is not violating any laws with its principles and standards. But just watch for someone to come out big time and try to make a case that his church is some kind of militant and dangerous group. The same kind of dingbats that continue to insist he is Muslim should find no reason not to distort his actual beliefs or vilify his church. Politics can be a NASTY business.



The KKK is not violating any laws either.

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