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BEWARE - the Middle Class White Person .. the new terrorist or so to hear the Democrat run Homeland Security department.   I'm just glad they didn't do something like stereotype some poor undeserving group like Radical Muslims.  All this stereotyping and offending people of importance has to stop.  At least looks like they have their game plan on stopping it.  Identify the real hazards to America. 

 

No wonder the TSA is searching elderly in diapers and 4 year old kids.  I'm glad that the terrorist didn't win.  If they had our poor standard American lives would have been effected. 

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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MAN, you Alex Jones conspiracy folks are HARD CORE!

 

Did you even WATCH the video you are using as "evidence" that the homeland security program "see something, say something" is targeting "middle class white people"?

Is the evidence of this "targeting" you speak of in this smear post the FACT that examples of terrorist used in the video, AMONGST OTHERS, include Ted Kaczynski the Unibomber, OR Timothy McVeigh the Oklahoma City bomber?

YES, they were BOTH "middle class white people" and they were BOTH terrorist.

See something, Say something!

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
Whoever posted this crap surely doesn't think that anyone is going to read it.

Nah I don't expect anyone would read it or  post a response,. 


As for those who aren't reading it, the point is not so much that one person in a group may lose his mind and go off on  some anti-government rampage.  The point is that given the abundant evidence and examples of terrorism in the world and who has been behind it as well as not to mention a pronounced jihad from the same group of people yet we are spending our resources and avoid targeting this group of people as well as realizing who the airports are targeting it is crazy.  The video itself makes the remark not to targ-///////et a group because of their religion but it is this specific religion that targeted our country and still does.

 

It would be like, in 1942  spending most of our funds on security targeting Canada rather than Japan or Germany.   This nation has been attacked is that a religious movement and to turn a blind eye away from a group that has sought and desired a nuclear device to use while they concentrate on a political foe such as members of the Tea Party is craziness and putting our Country at risk.  

 

Regarding the two individuals you mentioned while Tim McVey may have been considered middle class white American they are two vastly isolated cases where each had specific targets for specific reasons or at least what they considered reasons in their warped minds.  A more accurate target would have been the many militias but then again these aren't the targets of this government. The biggest threat to this Government seems to be people that would make up the "Tea Party" and that is just plain lunacy.   

 

I dare say there is much more of a threat from Mexican drug lords and their bunch than any of the white American groups that are being targeted but do we seem concerned about them or our border to the South?. 

 

Again it is not as much that any group of people could potentially be an internal threat but the issue is that our Government seems to want to appear so politically correct that they are going out of their way no exclude mentioning or targeting some individuals from which the very bulk of the terrorist have actually come from. 

The news report that I read said the following:


A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism.

I can't imagine.  I kept expecting to hear names like Baker, Smith, Thompson and the like from the Middle Class Angry White Men faction of Americans for Freedom.  Maybe the initial reports are just wrong and from a Right Wing Biased media, a fringe of FOX News no doubt.


Jimi has stated in other forums and topics that he doesn't bother to read post he just replies to them which shows how judgmental  and shallow Jimi really is yet he expects to be taken seriously by others. 


Jimi has perfected replying on the forum without reading just as he perfected, long ago, talking without thinking.  The only question remaining about Jimi is whether he has reached his teens yet or is still 12.  Only an immature child could post what he does.  Some think he's several bricks shy of a load and others just call him a troll.  I once thought maybe this is a impaired individual who doesn't know better or can't help himself but most likely it's some child let loose on the computer by parents who would rather turn him over to the computer than teach him manners.


So the only thing you can do when it comes to Jimi is consider the source.

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

The militias are surveilled by the FBI and law enforcement, in general.  However, they are not a major threat.

 

I suspect the bombers in Oslo will have names that include Abdullah, Mohammed, Omar, etc.  

Mr interventor:

 

You are wrong on this one. 

I know you keep up on current events so I am not providing "provenance" (reminds me of the good old days)

Terrorism is serious and it really is time for the radical right to quit using it as political spin.

And this tread is nothing but an example of the ignorance of Alex Jones and his followers.

Originally Posted by JimiHendrix:
I don't reply to forum topics that I haven't read. I reply to the idiots who write them.

Actually you make judgments about people you don't even know and comments about most things you don't understand.  Some call it a being a troll others just write it off to you not reaching puberty yet.

I never try and conceal when I'm wrong and in this case I was at least about the case of terror in Norway. .  Looks like now the mass killing that was done in Europe was committed by one of Adolph's fans a white, blue eyed blond new ****.  or according to the news I read the report on. 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ent-areas-Utoya.html

 

 

I guess it goes to show that no one can be passive and escape terror in the world today.  What seemed crazy to me was the guy hated Muslims but attacked a bunch of Kids not a bunch of Muslims. Even then the guys hatred toward Muslims was misplaced for only a small sect of radicalized Muslims are the problem facing most of the Western world.

 

Either way politics makes strange allies for in some areas of the world depending on the times you are talking about the same people are the ones we are supporting.  Like in Libya some of the freedom fighters there  are the same radical Muslims that we are fighting elsewhere. 

Originally Posted by interventor1212:

While, both were white, neither McVeigh, nor kaczynski wee middle class.  Living in shack, espousing a luddite philosophy, and eschewing bathing do not represent middle class values, or life style. More, the old left wing weatherman beliefs i remember, without fondness.

 

  

 

 

Ted Kaczinsky was an anarchist whose philosophy consisted primarily of anarcho-primitivism and neo-Luddism, both hostile to Leftism and Socialism. 

 

“Some Primitivists have been even more hostile towards modern Leftism, with Ted Kaczynski's Industrial Society and Its Future dedicating whole sections to the problems with modern Leftism.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4964.../Anarcho-primitivism


"Whether the arguments come from the right or the left may not affect the general conclusions reached by those who are likely to be labelled as neo-Luddites....In their view, the unhindered growth of technology in liberal societies tends to increase governmental and corporate control over individual lives, and lead to increased inequality."

http://greenpolitics.wikia.com...ites.22_and_politics


I disagree.  I do not believe Bohner wants a Government shut down.  Bohner want's spending cuts without any tax increases.  Bohner's political philosophy is that tax reductions create an economy that thrives and fosters growth.  Democrats believe that by taxing different people that the government can increase the money to put against the debt and cost.  Spending has to be addressed but I don't believe no reasonable politician desires a Government shutdown.  By being speaker of the House and the House controlling spending then he has leverage against the President.  It was evident that the people didn't trust the Dems to be in total control anymore.  Saying that Bohner want's to hurt the country is a misrepresentation based upon political leanings.  Also it's no longer Bush's fault for there has been exponential new spending since Bush was in office.  As is there is no way even new taxes could offset the wild unlimited spending that has been done.

Tax cuts, if that's all they did would do the same as spending ... increase the nation's debt.  Tax cuts alone take money away from the Government and puts that money into people's pockets.  Reagan knew that but what what he also knew that either you don't know or understand or fail to mention is that most often the more money you allow to be pocketed by individuals the more INCENTIVE they have to make more money.  How do they make more money?  JOBS .. Increase their business and income by greater sales, production etc.  If business knows what percentage is going to be in their pocket they can allot more to growing their business.  Then more business means more profits and more profits means an increase to the treasury from the increased taxes they pay. 


See if you can understand it this way.  Two scenarios:

1) tax rate at 15% (lower) incentives to grow business hire employees and increase the economy meaning 15% of MORE MONEY means MORE TAX money to the Government. The more individuals will pay into taxes because there are more working to pay more into the system.  Lower taxes have always proven to stimulate the economy because when people can put more into their pockets they usually invest more and take more chances and grow their business which stimulates the economy as a whole.


2) Higher taxes 25% (higher) business keeps less of what money they do make, hold on to their money for investment and no new jobs are formed meaning more tax money to the government of what's there but less incentive to grow business and less incentive to make money and investments because the reward just goes to the Government and not in your pocket.


There are plenty of other combinations but that is why Bohner says no tax increases and lower spending.  It worked under Reagan and worked under Clinton and the Republican congress then which Clinton agreed to allow to do what they wanted which was cut spending and lower the tax rates.  The rates were lowered for all economic classes and yes the rich got more benefits because they were taxed much greater than anyone else.  They also are the ones with the money to make for and create more jobs.  Not too many poor people create jobs.  People who take risk and start businesses make jobs and unless the environment is friendly and taxes low not too many people venture into business hence our stale economy.

Rocky,

 

I must take a mea culpa on my statement about the shooter.  Obviously, no muslim, he seems to be a cross between a Norwegian nativist and a Unibomber.  Apparently, he lifted parts of the unibombers manifesto almost word for wordl  OTH, he's not another Quisling, as he associated the NSDAP with Communists. Considered them all part of the same bunch.

 

 

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