Originally Posted by interventor1212:
At least, it doesn't call for suspension of the Constitution, as did Governor Perdue. Nor, did the arrest of Jose Pedilla come under the Patriot Act, as Extra claimed.
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Extra’s post:
“In those famous words: "YOU LIE" I never mentioned Padilla in reference to the patriot act. I pointed out that the government had already used unlimited detention under Bush. As you pointed out, Bush claimed this privilege as Commander in chief. When the Patriot Act was written,, ( As influenced by the Bush admin), this provision was written in.
I was dead on, you are completely wrong. The patriot act allows for the incarceration of american civilians without access to the courts. it's not even an argument. All you are is smoke and mirrors and misdirection.”
My rejoinder:
In the famous word –NO! No lies written! True, you did not mention Pedilla. However, as he was one of the few Americans detained and the only one detained after passage of the Patriot Act. The other being John Lindh (Taliban Johnny) who was arrested on the battlefield in Afghanistan, tried and sentenced after a plea bargain. Lindh’s case happened before the patriot Act even passed.
As I showed in a previous post, a superior court upheld the Pedilla case and didn’t even mention the Patriot Act in their decision – but rather powers emanating from the Constitution for the President as CiC.
Please cite this infamous provision within the Patriot Act, as I could not find. I even cited the act and gave the link to it. And, under the superior court decision considering Pedilla, the court agreed the Great Writ (Writ of Habeas Corpus) was followed.
Extra, I knew you were knee deep in conspiracy theory. But, not you appear to be up to your eyeballs, even denying the evidence shown and copies of the Patriot Act, itself.
That said, its nice to see that you weren’t the one arrested for attempting to attack the Pentagon and Capitol with RC planes. Good luck with that at the Pentagon, even with a 5-pound plastic charge diving in at 100 MPH. Between blast resistant windows and program called MERLIN, or its successor, the plane will either dive into the ground, or make a nasty mess on the wall.
Extra, want to bet some doofus in Congress will try to limit RC planes in the future? Prepare for licenses and limit on the size of the craft. Despite your protestations, I truly am concerned about a large unwieldy government running rough shod over citizens and their rights.