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There are so many things about believers that puzzle me and there is no way to ever get answers. One thing I wonder is why christians cling so to the idea of an afterlife. Why do they think one should even exist? If your god/gods are so loving and wonderful, shouldn't following them here, now, in this life be enough? Christians say they're happy and loved etc because of "knowing god", but all they strive for is some reward after they die. Is it a fear of death that makes them dream of an afterlife? Why would christians fear the idea of just dying and it all being over?
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
There are so many things about believers that puzzle me and there is no way to ever get answers. One thing I wonder is why christians cling so to the idea of an afterlife. Why do they think one should even exist? If your god/gods are so loving and wonderful, shouldn't following them here, now, in this life be enough? Christians say they're happy and loved etc because of "knowing god", but all they strive for is some reward after they die. Is it a fear of death that makes them dream of an afterlife? Why would christians fear the idea of just dying and it all being over?


Why would you care what a Christian might or might not want?
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Originally posted by BFred07:
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
There are so many things about believers that puzzle me and there is no way to ever get answers. One thing I wonder is why christians cling so to the idea of an afterlife. Why do they think one should even exist? If your god/gods are so loving and wonderful, shouldn't following them here, now, in this life be enough? Christians say they're happy and loved etc because of "knowing god", but all they strive for is some reward after they die. Is it a fear of death that makes them dream of an afterlife? Why would christians fear the idea of just dying and it all being over?


Why would you care what a Christian might or might not want?
Because I'm a human and I have thoughts and ideas about things just like others. Why do you care what non-believers think? I wonder about a lot of things in this life and one of them is what makes christians tick.
I look forward to spending time with God in person. I trust him completely because he did more for me in a moment than any human has done for me in a lifetime, as well as taking care of the consequence of my sins.

I look forward to understanding things that I currently do not understand and seeing the millions upon millions of things I've never seen. That should take...oh I don't know, an eternity? Smiler

I have no doubt that God exists and that eternity with him exists because God has proven his existence in my life countless times. I enjoy (that word isn't strong enough, but...) my relationship with him now and would not trade it for anything or anybody.

Everyone fears how they will die, the process of physical death, but I have no reason to fear eternity. I welcome it.

I don't know about rewards. I'm rewarded now, every time I share a wow moment with God, every time I am renewed through prayer, every time he comforts me, every time I discover something new & exciting, etc. I can't imagine anything more rewarding than my eyes seeing and audibly hearing God and Jesus. Whatever else he decides to reward me will pale in comparison to that.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:

Christians say they're happy and loved etc because of "knowing god", but all they strive for is some reward after they die.


Just from the above quote in itself it would seem you already think that you know what makes Christian's "tick". Whether or not Christians want an afterlife is irrelevent because whether or not we want it, there is one. We have two choices for an afterlife and that is either to dwell in the presence of God or to be expelled from his presence. Now given those two choices I would say the wiser of the two would be to spend it with God. Since I do get to spend my eternity with God then yea I want it (just not yetSmiler but if I had to spend eternity without God then I would just assume it all be over.
I'm not sure 'want' is the correct term.
If I can live beyond this existence with a free mind, no pain, no wants, only traveling a road of knowledge, then yes I would like that.

I don't plan my days around my death, nor do I consciously think of the 'afterlife' on a regular basis.

I do not fear dying, but I would like to delay it as long as possible as I am not finished with this life yet. Smiler
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Originally posted by _Joy_:
I look forward to spending time with God in person. I trust him completely because he did more for me in a moment than any human has done for me in a lifetime, as well as taking care of the consequence of my sins.

I look forward to understanding things that I currently do not understand and seeing the millions upon millions of things I've never seen. That should take...oh I don't know, an eternity? Smiler

I have no doubt that God exists and that eternity with him exists because God has proven his existence in my life countless times. I enjoy (that word isn't strong enough, but...) my relationship with him now and would not trade it for anything or anybody.

Everyone fears how they will die, the process of physical death, but I have no reason to fear eternity. I welcome it.

I don't know about rewards. I'm rewarded now, every time I share a wow moment with God, every time I am renewed through prayer, every time he comforts me, every time I discover something new & exciting, etc. I can't imagine anything more rewarding than my eyes seeing and audibly hearing God and Jesus. Whatever else he decides to reward me will pale in comparison to that.

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And joy, That's all we need to know for now. A quick look into Heaven from
the book - Saved by the Light - by Dannion Brinkley. Made me think of,
That is so like God, It's going to be unbelievable.


Kvn.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
There are so many things about believers that puzzle me and there is no way to ever get answers. One thing I wonder is why christians cling so to the idea of an afterlife. Why do they think one should even exist? If your god/gods are so loving and wonderful, shouldn't following them here, now, in this life be enough? Christians say they're happy and loved etc because of "knowing god", but all they strive for is some reward after they die. Is it a fear of death that makes them dream of an afterlife? Why would christians fear the idea of just dying and it all being over?


i can't speak for anyone else, all i cna offer is one reason that i liek the idea of an eternal afterlife:

i've been married for 15 years, and i'm more desperatly in love with my wife today than i was 15 years ago.
even if i were to live another 200 years, that's not enough time to spend being in love with my wife.

so, one reason i liek the idea of an 'after' is simply to have more time to love her.
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i can't speak for anyone else, all i cna offer is one reason that i liek the idea of an eternal afterlife:

i've been married for 15 years, and i'm more desperatly in love with my wife today than i was 15 years ago.
even if i were to live another 200 years, that's not enough time to spend being in love with my wife.

so, one reason i liek the idea of an 'after' is simply to have more time to love her.

What if she wasn't with you?
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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i can't speak for anyone else, all i cna offer is one reason that i liek the idea of an eternal afterlife:

i've been married for 15 years, and i'm more desperatly in love with my wife today than i was 15 years ago.
even if i were to live another 200 years, that's not enough time to spend being in love with my wife.

so, one reason i liek the idea of an 'after' is simply to have more time to love her.

What if she wasn't with you?

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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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i can't speak for anyone else, all i cna offer is one reason that i liek the idea of an eternal afterlife:

i've been married for 15 years, and i'm more desperatly in love with my wife today than i was 15 years ago.
even if i were to live another 200 years, that's not enough time to spend being in love with my wife.

so, one reason i liek the idea of an 'after' is simply to have more time to love her.

What if she wasn't with you?


I don't know if Thenagel and/or his wife are Christian or not and am not trying to judge that at all but the whole thing about a believer being married to a non believer is addressed in the Bible so if they let Thenagel in his wife will be there too.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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i can't speak for anyone else, all i cna offer is one reason that i liek the idea of an eternal afterlife:

i've been married for 15 years, and i'm more desperatly in love with my wife today than i was 15 years ago.
even if i were to live another 200 years, that's not enough time to spend being in love with my wife.

so, one reason i liek the idea of an 'after' is simply to have more time to love her.

What if she wasn't with you?


then i have no interest in going.
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Originally posted by BFred07:
the whole thing about a believer being married to a non believer is addressed in the Bible so if they let Thenagel in his wife will be there too.


Do I understand this correctly?
Are you saying if a believer is married to a non believer, & the believer goes to Heaven, then his wife/her husband will be there too?
If so, I would like to know where this is in the Bible.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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then i have no interest in going.

Do you believe in ghosts?


'believe' is a little strong.
i accept the possibility that there is something that exists on a metaphysical level that we don't understand and are only partially able to percieve at times.

mebbe ghosts.. mebbe not. i dunno. i do know i've seen things i cannot explain.
i don't understand it, so i don't try to define and label it. it might be ghosts. it might have been my imagination. it might have been an odd shadow in an odd place at an odd time.

i dunno if i believe in ghosts or not. i don't DISbelieve... but refusing to deny their existance is far from confirming absoloute belief...
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by BFred07:
the whole thing about a believer being married to a non believer is addressed in the Bible so if they let Thenagel in his wife will be there too.


Do I understand this correctly?
Are you saying if a believer is married to a non believer, & the believer goes to Heaven, then his wife/her husband will be there too?
If so, I would like to know where this is in the Bible.


My apologies Semi, I should have included that. In particular I am referring to 1st Corinthians Chapter 7 1-16 but there are some other places that touch on the subject too.
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Originally posted by Jennifer:
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'believe' is a little strong.
i accept the possibility that there is something that exists on a metaphysical level that we don't understand and are only partially able to percieve at times.

I didn't ask to trick or trap you. I was wondering if christians believe in ghosts.


i didn't think it was a trick question, it just wasn't a simple answer Smiler
i thought you deserved the most accurate answer i could give.. without writeing an essay on the issue, that was it.
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
Do I understand this correctly?
Are you saying if a believer is married to a non believer, & the believer goes to Heaven, then his wife/her husband will be there too?
If so, I would like to know where this is in the Bible.


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Originally posted by BFred07:
My apologies Semi, I should have included that. In particular I am referring to 1st Corinthians Chapter 7 1-16 but there are some other places that touch on the subject too.


I respectfully disagree. I think this is talking about the sanctity of marriage.

“And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.
For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband.”

This scripture doesn’t seem to suggest that the unbeliever spouse will go to Heaven just because the believer does.

“How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?”

I don't think anyone can get another person a free pass to Heaven. I think each of us is responsible for our salvation.

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