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Yes, I know there are good cops out there. There are several good people on these boards who were cops. However, there are also quite a few cops like the one in this video. When dealing with the police, you never know if you are dealing with a good one or a very bad one.

If you are ever dealing with cops, speak as little as possible. If you're handcuffed, don't say a word until your lawyer is present. Don't resist or combat in any way. That still doesn't guarantee something like this won't happen.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/601108802/643010

This video is disturbing. When you're watching it, notice that it has been tampered with. Also keep in mind that the cop was just fired, not charged.

When I saw this, I felt I had to share it. This is why you should never, ever trust a cop.
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There is no doubt that the woman should have been arrested, but where were the female cops that women are allowed to be turned over to?

This is VERY disturbing, and it is equally disturbing that he only lost his job. Any man out there who beats a woman (or even a man) to that degree would be serving time.

This is atrocious.
The problem with this whole thing is that this guy will probably be hired by some small town police force. Reference and employment checks are spotty in some areas. When you recruit police officers from the human race, you occasionally get a few rotten ones. We were always pretty good at getting rid of the really bad ones (from the large department I worked at) but every once in a while you'd hear of one of our rejects showing up someplace else.

But NashBama's advice is good: if you're arrested, keep your mouth shut until you get a lawyer and don't do anything that seems remotely like resisting. If I get stopped here in LA, I turn on the interior lights, hold my license in one hand, and raise both hands so they can be clearly seen. Often times, the police officers will recognize what you're doing and be polite in return.

Or you can take Dennis Miller's approach.
Not only that I find this disturbing. , I think somebody had too much time on their hands and made some or all this up. How come the camera did NOT show him beating her just like other cameras have that we see on TV ?

Secondly , I think this would have been on the news like they have all the other people being beaten or harassed by the cops.

Third I've never heard of that website and not all websites are that honest.
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How come the camera did NOT show him beating her just like other cameras have that we see on TV ?

Secondly , I think this would have been on the news like they have all the other people being beaten or harassed by the cops.

Third I've never heard of that website and not all websites are that honest.


The beating was not on camera because the tape was tampered with. It's pretty obvious to tell the cop turned the camera off. The fact that he turned it off proves that he is planning on beating her, not an accidental fall as claimed by the police.

This has been on local Shreveport news, but for whatever reason it did not make national. It should.

http://www.ktbs.com/news/Latest-developments-in-case-in...police-custody-8912/

I found that link from a news photographer's forum. If you think people are raked over the coals for posting unreliable sources here, you should try it with those guys. I haven't heard of it before either, but the story and video are definitely authentic.

Notice that the Shreveport Police Union is defending the cop. Also notice that the cop's supervising officer was suspended for not reporting the incident. Sounds like he was trying to help cover it up to me.

The police in Shreveport are doing their best to cover their own butts and protect their own. If you think it doesn't happen in every city, you're mistaken.

Like Zip said, this cop is now looking for work and Louisiana isn't that far from Alabama. He could wind up anywhere.

So be careful when you're dealing with the police, you never know what kind of criminal is wearing that badge.
This doesn't surprise me in the least.
Most likely, the actual beating was edited out.
And I do not think that this was a set up video.
You couldn't photo shop those bruises & contusions.

Whether or not she deserved to be arrested, is unknown, and it is only dumb to make an assumption just by watching her actions on this tape.
She could have been acting out & resisting because she had indeed been arrested under false pretenses.

I just hope this lady has a good attorney.
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
TAC Who could come in a Jail to help but other cops ? And they sure aint helping ,they turn the blind eye .


You know as well as I do, what this looks like!
I can't help but laugh at all the ohh's & ahh's posted here about this video.
We tried to talk about a real life incident such as this, that hits home with us both, and we get turned into a couple of class act rednecks who are anything but right!
I can't wait to see what all the do-gooders have to say about this!!!

Oh & btw...
If the cop is now looking for employment, Alabama is indeed very close, and I hear they have a job opening in Franklin County.
He would fit right in!!!!!
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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
TAC Who could come in a Jail to help but other cops ? And they sure aint helping ,they turn the blind eye .


You know as well as I do, what this looks like!
I can't help but laugh at all the ohh's & ahh's posted here about this video.
We tried to talk about a real life incident such as this, that hits home with us both, and we get turned into a couple of class act rednecks who are anything but right!
I can't wait to see what all the do-gooders have to say about this!!!

Oh & btw...
If the cop is now looking for employment, Alabama is indeed very close, and I hear they have a job opening in Franklin County.
He would fit right in!!!!!


True Flo so true.
And the camera in question just happen to run out of tape on the way to jail ? lmao .
We was even told he deserved what he got because he went to jail . Didnt matter what the circumstance was . Wink
God willing though , Justice will be served someday .
I do know for a fact that "some cops" turn off the camera when doing things like this. I am not stating which dept did it or how I know this for fact but I did see it happen. The guy was on meth, running from the cops and they finally got him afte he wrecked his car. The officer turned the camera off, gave him a bloody nose and then turned it back on.
While I agree that there are bad cops out there, a majority are good cops. The cop in the video should have been charged with Assault & hopefully he will be after the case goes to a Grand Jury. But all you cop bashers out there need to remember who it is that you call upon when you are in a car accident or your child, mother, or sister has been raped or molested. You also need to think about what it must be like to go to to work everyday wondering if today will be the day that some a**h**e is going to shoot you just because you pulled them over for speeding or because you try to break up a fight between a husband & wife. Yeah, remember not to trust that cop when he risks his life to protect yours for less money than most of you cop bashers probably make.
mnepit-jr, if you watch any of the true cop stories you would know that once they hit the blue light for a stop, they can't tamper with the tape, they can't turn it off. Most of the recorders are in a LOCKED box in the trunk.

Looks like the cop in this video didn't actually stop it, just put it on pause because it showed the same image for a few seconds.

SNadvocate, I agree with everything you said!!! I have a lot of friends who are in Law Enforcement, and they are all quite well aware of the fact that when they go on shift, it may be their last one. But their dedication and love for their job makes them keep on going.

My hat is off to the GOOD cops of this Nation, and Thank God, they SOOOOOOO outnumber the bad ones.

Video's of this nature is a GOOD thing, I think most of my friends who are cops WANT cops like that FIRED, and never return because it is cops like in the video who gives the stereo-type of the ''bad'' cop. The vast majority don't deserve to be lumped together with this scum in the video.
Like I said, there are plenty of good cops out there who work hard to keep us safe. It's a noble profession and I admire those who can do it well.

On the other hand, keep in mind that this cop and many like him are out there as well. With all of those assault incidents on him, who is he protecting? Is he the first to abuse his power and hurt someone?

How do you know if you have a good cop or bad cop? You don't, that's why it's better to be safe than sorry and never trust any of them.

Be on guard with everything you say and do anytime cops are near. Without handcuffs, be polite, brief, and argue the situation in court, not with the cop no matter what. With handcuffs, don't argue, don't resist, don't speak without a lawyer.
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Looks like the cop in this video didn't actually stop it, just put it on pause because it showed the same image for a few seconds.


The camera is not locked or protected. It's out in the open with no automated system. The cop is free to start and stop the camera.

Pausing the tape does not mean it will record the same image for a few seconds. Pausing a tape does exactly the same thing as stopping it, it ceases recording all together. The still image looks to be his shirt, he may have been trying to record over something.

The representative from the police union said that it is common practice to stop the video once the person refuses the test. Think about it, a male cop with a female intoxicated prisoner alone in a room with the door closed. Why would he stop the tape? The tape is his best protection against any false accusations. It can also prove if he did something wrong, which is why I think he stopped the tape.
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Originally posted by Kindred:
mnepit-jr, if you watch any of the true cop stories you would know that once they hit the blue light for a stop, they can't tamper with the tape, they can't turn it off. Most of the recorders are in a LOCKED box in the trunk.

Looks like the cop in this video didn't actually stop it, just put it on pause because it showed the same image for a few seconds.

SNadvocate, I agree with everything you said!!! I have a lot of friends who are in Law Enforcement, and they are all quite well aware of the fact that when they go on shift, it may be their last one. But their dedication and love for their job makes them keep on going.

My hat is off to the GOOD cops of this Nation, and Thank God, they SOOOOOOO outnumber the bad ones.

Video's of this nature is a GOOD thing, I think most of my friends who are cops WANT cops like that FIRED, and never return because it is cops like in the video who gives the stereo-type of the ''bad'' cop. The vast majority don't deserve to be lumped together with this scum in the video.



Kindred, you are right about this, they are locked in the trunk, but who do you think holds the key to these boxes?? Not the patrolman, but yes indeed, their good buddy, their colleague, their Supervisor.
And do not think for one minute, that they won't scratch one another's backs!
I know all of this to be as correct as rice is white!


My daddy was a cop for many years, and still has many friends that are still cops, and 99.999% of them are good, hardworking, honest men & women. I can't imagine where we would be without them. And you are also right about most of the good one's, want the bad one's, to be fired. But unfortunately, there is usually a few bad apples, in every precinct, and they don't get outted, until a situation such as this occurs, and then, sometimes, it is too late.
This officer in four years of service has already had two, now maybe three law suits against him, I think he has an ego problem and needs to never wear the badge again. I went to another site, and research some of his prior actions, and it didn't look good at all. I mean when you pull a gun on a 12 year old, that will remain in that child's mind for the rest of his life, there is something wrong with this officer. He is a dishonor to the many good officers that wears the badge.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by Kindred:
There is no doubt that the woman should have been arrested, but where were the female cops that women are allowed to be turned over to?


Not every department has female officers. Even today, most detention centers don't always have a female on duty.


If thats the case then they need to have someone higher up on the Ladder when the female is in custody, and not just a little cop with a big attitude.
Ya know, I'm sure glad fate didn't direct me to being a cop. I would beat the hell out of a lot of people. Including the cop in this video.

I do not envy a cops job. They are forced to deal with the worst behavior on the plant and somehow retain their sanity and remain within the law.

I simply do not have that ability to contain my rage against certain types of criminals.
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
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Originally posted by Kindred:
There is no doubt that the woman should have been arrested, but where were the female cops that women are allowed to be turned over to?


Not every department has female officers. Even today, most detention centers don't always have a female on duty.


If thats the case then they need to have someone higher up on the Ladder when the female is in custody, and not just a little cop with a big attitude.


Unfortunately, all the psychological tests, background checks and probationary periods in the world cannot predict all the problems you run into with employees, cops or otherwise.

If you can invent a system that will accurately predict which employee is going to break stupid and commit an act like this one, you'll be richer that Bill Gates.

And why would you only want the "someone higher up the ladder" for females? Are you suggesting they be treated better than male prisoners?
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Originally posted by tnt5862:
Thats not what I meant at all Sassy. I meant maybe if someone higher up was involved that maybe nobody would get beat up ,As the higher up will not want to lose his job or be in the public eye for such bull crap .


But, when it comes right down to it, you can't watch every employee every minute of the day. Nobody can, and the public would not stand for the cost of doing so.

You do everything you can to foresee this type of situation. You check backgrounds and run psych tests, run probationary periods and have FTO's, but occasionally one slips through the cracks. It's deplorable, but as long as you're employing humans, it's going to happen occasionally.

BTW, and FWIW, I would have arrested the guy in the video for assault. And raised a stink if "the powers that be" had tried to sweep it under the rug.
I have seen several high profile ministers at National broadcast level and local fall to human traits...
I have seen teachers,doctors,lawyers,judges, politicians fail to maintain the level of professionalism set..

Does that mean we should not trust anyone in those professions?
I believe we all know that answer?
That is why the title of this post appears to have not been well thought out...and was probably written from an emotional stand point after observing the officer doing what he did..
That is understandable...This is a good example of how officers cannot allow their emotions to become involved in the mix during extreme altercations...They do not have that luxury...when a officer loses his temper..it is highly likely the next thing he is going to lose is his job...
But then again the majority of the Law Enforcement Communities react correctly when an officer tarnishes the badge...unlike a lot of other professions...the others just turn their heads....and say...Its not my job to turn them in...thus the behavior continues...
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Then maybe NB you should put your broad brush away. Some folks, cops among them, aren't to be trusted especially when they betray the public trust.

Otherwise, you place SK, me, and others within the same parameters.


Again, as I said in the very first sentence of my original post. I know there are good cops out there. There are also cops like the one in this video.

If you pulled me over, would you walk cautiously to my car with your hand on your gun? Of course you would. Why? Because you have no idea who I am, I may have a gun, I may take off, or I may do what I'm supposed to. In other words, you are protecting yourself by not trusting me.

I'm doing the same thing. If I get pulled over, I have no idea if the cop is a good guy just doing his job or a cop like the one in the video. How do I know he's not going to snap for no reason and beat my ass? I don't, so to protect myself I keep my hands visible at all times and speak as little as possible.

That's what I mean by never trusting cops. The public should be just as cautious around cops as cops are around the public. You know just as well as I do that cops do bad things too.

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