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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.


And a very valid thought... no telling how many thousands of miles of tunneling are in Iraq... I hope there are none found, but fact is, there COULD be something somewhere.

But I think even Bush has given up on WMD... Did you see 60 Minutes Sunday night? VERY interesting.. maybe you could go to CBS, and they have a 60minutes section and you can see what Bush said for all this mess...

He still has ZERO credibility with me.
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Originally posted by interventor:
We have satellite images of a large convoy of russian made trucks leaving Iraq heading into Syria right before the fall. Second hand reports stated they were guarded by Russian spetnaz (special forces) troops. Could have been WMD, could have been missing billions from Saddam's accounts.


interventor... that is exactly what I heard, the convoy was FULL of money. Wonder who has it now?
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.



People just can't believe they were lied too. They were made fools of by this administration and the corporate media. Others just shrug it off with indifference.

Beside the fact that we were watching Iraqi's every move by satellites and such we had bought off a few ministers and generals inside Iraq. There were no WMD and Bush knew it.
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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.



People just can't believe they were lied too. They were made fools of by this administration and the corporate media. Others just shrug it off with indifference.

Beside the fact that we were watching Iraqi's every move by satellites and such we had bought off a few ministers and generals inside Iraq. There were no WMD and Bush knew it.


PBA, people have admitted it... Heck, if you read his interview with Relley on 60 Minures Sunday night, HE even admitted it.... Is he still staying the course? Of course he is, but he admitted he has been wrong on several things. On National TV, no less.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.



People just can't believe they were lied too. They were made fools of by this administration and the corporate media. Others just shrug it off with indifference.

Beside the fact that we were watching Iraqi's every move by satellites and such we had bought off a few ministers and generals inside Iraq. There were no WMD and Bush knew it.


PBA, people have admitted it... Heck, if you read his interview with Relley on 60 Minures Sunday night, HE even admitted it.... Is he still staying the course? Of course he is, but he admitted he has been wrong on several things. On National TV, no less.


Are you referring to Bill O'Reilly from fox?
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Originally posted by interventor:
We have satellite images of a large convoy of russian made trucks leaving Iraq heading into Syria right before the fall. Second hand reports stated they were guarded by Russian spetnaz (special forces) troops. Could have been WMD, could have been missing billions from Saddam's accounts.




Iraq and Syria had a long rivalry and were enemies, he did not ship any WMD to Assad. As far as I know this story only appears on the web and it's from a site that has all kinds of long distances arial pictures with circles and arrows around things we can't even figure out. Just like Powell's evidence at the UN.

I have heard this before and say if they really thought the shipments went to Syria they would have said so instead of declaring that they found none. Every right wingnut pundit would be screaming it daily.

This story is for the die hards who can't accept the fact that they were lied too and to be used in right wing conspiracy sites as more "secret evidence" for an attack on Syria.

Bush and Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, they don't even bring up WMD any more, now we are there to "promote democracy."

People can't even keep up with the latest spin.
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.

If I had been Hussain, and I had WMD, there would have been a HUGE number of dead Americans that first few days, and before they got a rope around mty neck.
HE DID NOT HAVE THEM. He Did not USE them is proof enough.
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Originally posted by interventor:
We have satellite images of a large convoy of russian made trucks leaving Iraq heading into Syria right before the fall. Second hand reports stated they were guarded by Russian spetnaz (special forces) troops. Could have been WMD, could have been missing billions from Saddam's accounts.

interventor,
an interrogation, I have a huge stockpile of horribly deadly weapons, A nation is threatening to invade my country. The fist thing I am going to do is DEPLOY that arsenal at potential invasion routes. THEN, WHEN THE ARMY OF INVASIION SHOW UP AT MY DOOR STEP, I AM GOING TO CLEAN SOME CLOCKS, STOP SOME TANKS, KILL SOME OF THE ENEMY, STEAL THEIR EQUIPMENT AND ARMS, AND FIGHT THE SECOND WAVE WITH THEIR OWN STUFF.
Hussain did NOT HAVE ANY WMD.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.

If I had been Hussain, and I had WMD, there would have been a HUGE number of dead Americans that first few days, and before they got a rope around mty neck.
HE DID NOT HAVE THEM. He Did not USE them is proof enough.


Good point! we could use your points in here more often! start checking the post more! thanks!
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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by PBA:
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Originally posted by themax:
You know, even if we have not found them, who really knows that they are buried in the thousand of mile of sand.
If I were Hussan I would surely hide them so deep they could never be found.
Just a thought- no facts involved.



People just can't believe they were lied too. They were made fools of by this administration and the corporate media. Others just shrug it off with indifference.

Beside the fact that we were watching Iraqi's every move by satellites and such we had bought off a few ministers and generals inside Iraq. There were no WMD and Bush knew it.


PBA, people have admitted it... Heck, if you read his interview with Relley on 60 Minures Sunday night, HE even admitted it.... Is he still staying the course? Of course he is, but he admitted he has been wrong on several things. On National TV, no less.


Are you referring to Bill O'Reilly from fox?



NO, I am referring to RELLEY, on 60 Minutes, JUST LIKE I SAID.

GO TO CBS, then 60 MINUTES, then you can read the interview with BUSH AND RELLEY!!!

I posted the link on another post.
I have not posted in a few days because I got angry and made an *** out of myself the other day. I allowed anger to cloud reason, and I will not let that happen again.
With that aside, I would like to ask one question concerning WMD's. You say (PBA and EdEKit) that if he had WMD's he would have used them on us right... Why didn't he use them the first time we fought him? I can tell you why. He KNEW we would kill him if he used WMD against us. By not using WMD's the first time, he got to stay in power for another 10 plus years. If he ever really thought we were actually going to kill him then he would have used the WMD's. He never had in his mind, even with this latest round that we would actually take HIM out.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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Originally posted by interventor:
We have satellite images of a large convoy of russian made trucks leaving Iraq heading into Syria right before the fall. Second hand reports stated they were guarded by Russian spetnaz (special forces) troops. Could have been WMD, could have been missing billions from Saddam's accounts.


interventor... that is exactly what I heard, the convoy was FULL of money. Wonder who has it now?
Interventor, could have been the SECRET papers and furniture from the Russian Embassy too.
Any country would take the furniture if they were evacuating before an invasion.
Saddam used WMD against Iranian forces and Kurds. That we know and is well documented. After Desert Storm, he gave the UN an inventory of WMD he still had.

He danced around the subject of destruction for years. He dismissed UN inspectors and then allowed them back in. After they came in he claimed the WMD inventory was destroyed while the inspectors were out of the country. But, documentation was lacking and definite proof never presented.
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
I have not posted in a few days because I got angry and made an *** out of myself the other day. I allowed anger to cloud reason, and I will not let that happen again.
With that aside, I would like to ask one question concerning WMD's. You say (PBA and EdEKit) that if he had WMD's he would have used them on us right... Why didn't he use them the first time we fought him? I can tell you why. He KNEW we would kill him if he used WMD against us. By not using WMD's the first time, he got to stay in power for another 10 plus years. If he ever really thought we were actually going to kill him then he would have used the WMD's. He never had in his mind, even with this latest round that we would actually take HIM out.


VERY true.... but WE didn't take him out, according to everything I have heard and read, the Iraqian Gov't did the deed. Right?
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
With all due respect K_S, that is splitting hairs. We captured him, turned him over to the Iraqi judiciary, and let them handle the rest. If it had not been for the US going in to begin with the mass murderer would still be in power. That was my point. He never thought we would ever follow through with actually removing him the way we did.


I know that, SP..... truly I do, but what I said above was paraphrasing what President Bush said Sunday night on 60-Minutes. He said that WE (USA) had nothing to do with Saddam's trial or execution. He never even said anything about it being us who removed him from power, but we all know it was us. Kind of mixed messages, I know, but if you go to CBS, then under 60-Minutes, you can see his interview with Relley... He really (amazingly enough) gave ALL the credit to Iraq for Saddam's fall and death.

I don't know why that is though, because surely he KNEW that most of us who watched that show REMEMBERED how Saddam was taken out of power.

I hope that was a little clearer than my last comment... ?

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