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I'm not an organ donor either and as far as I'm concerned if I ever have to make that choice for any of mine, neither are they.

Until I can pick who gets my guts, I'll keep them. I decided that when a neighbor I've known for 36 years and who was the biggest sot and wife abuser/w hore hopper on earth was told his liver was killing him. He went to big UAB, stayed sober for a year, and is now on the donor list. Uh-uh. If I can't give my liver to a loving father/mother/teenager who has been an asset to this world, forget it. And up till now I can't figure out how to rise up from the dead and point to the person/people I want my insides to go to. So no.
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I used to be an organ donor. After watching a full organ procurement i went the very next morning and had myself removed.

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I'm not an organ donor either and as far as I'm concerned if I ever have to make that choice for any of mine, neither are they.

Until I can pick who gets my guts, I'll keep them. I decided that when a neighbor I've known for 36 years and who was the biggest sot and wife abuser/w hore hopper on earth was told his liver was killing him. He went to big UAB, stayed sober for a year, and is now on the donor list. Uh-uh. If I can't give my liver to a loving father/mother/teenager who has been an asset to this world, forget it. And up till now I can't figure out how to rise up from the dead and point to the person/people I want my insides to go to. So no.


How would that reasoning strike you if you had a child or a spouse dying on a waiting list?
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How would that reasoning strike you if you had a child or a spouse dying on a waiting list?


I'd be thinking, hmmmm, maybe the organ donor people should make a point of screening their receivers better. Then maybe more people would be willing to sign up. Remember Mickey Mantle? Somebody wasted organs on that old drunk, that could've been used for a child or spouse. Twice.
Don't get huffy with me, worry about how to make sure the people who get the organs are somebody that will actually not kill the new one.
vick13, you are probably the most selfish person on here. im an organ donor, and you know why? mainly because i do have a chance to save a "good" persons life if i die..sure i take the chance of some alcoholic redneck taking my liver, so what, thats a chance im willing to take as long as it gives someone who actually deserves it a chance at a new life. and also, everyone makes mistakes in their life, thats why theres this little thing good people like to call "forgiveness". my dad used to be somewhat of a drinker, but not anymore, he is a good person now, so your saying that if by chance he needed a new liver you wouldnt give it to him even if you were dead and gone? you would rather have your organs rot underground instead of save a good mans life? thats just wrong if you ask me
I also got upset with the program when a woman in my cousin's hometown died, and they harvested her heart, lungs, kidneys, liver and eyes for transplant.

THEN they turned her over to the State for burial. The millions they made off her organs, the lives that were saved or altered and this poor woman got a paupers funeral.

Now THAT is a horrible glitch in the system, isn't it?
As am I and it makes me sad to see all these illogical excuses for not doing the right thing.

I trust that a good person will get my organs but frankly I'm dead anyway.

Your excuses sound like the guy who won't wear his seatbelt because he doesn't want to drown in the event his car runs into the lake. Whatever it takes to justify your cowardice and selfishness.
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How would that reasoning strike you if you had a child or a spouse dying on a waiting list?


I'd be thinking, hmmmm, maybe the organ donor people should make a point of screening their receivers better. Then maybe more people would be willing to sign up. Remember Mickey Mantle? Somebody wasted organs on that old drunk, that could've been used for a child or spouse. Twice.
Don't get huffy with me, worry about how to make sure the people who get the organs are somebody that will actually not kill the new one.


So since one percent of recipients shouldn't have received a organ everyone on the waiting list should die. Is that is honestly what you would be thinking if your child's was dying?
Chill, PR. Organ donation is a personal thing as it involves that person's organs, not your's. There are plenty of reasons to donate and there are plenty of reasons to not donate. There is no need to make excuses about a body you no longer need; so these are reasons, not excuses.

One I hear sometimes is the fear that if someone related to a medical professional needs one of my organs, will they let me die to get it? That's probably one too many Law & Order episodes talking, but there you go.

I looked on my driver's license and it doesn't say organ donor, but I thought that I had agreed to do that a long time ago.
I'm an organ donor. I figure that when I go, I'll be gone. If there is anything left of mine on this earth that anyone wants or needs, they are welcome to it.

That includes my eyes (I reckon you can have my contacts and glasses, too)...
my heart (it murmers and has a leak)...
my kidneys, liver, whatever else.

Yeah, there is a chance that my organs will go to a drunk or a wife beater. There is a chance that they'll go to a kid who just wants to go to prom, or a mom who just wants to see her baby go to prom one day. There is also a chance that Old Bubba the wife beater will get some extra time here on earth to find Jesus because someone donated the old sot a new liver. So, as long as they wait til I'm good and dead - and not a minute before!! - they can have my body. I'll be with Jesus, so I won't need it anymore.

And, if you are wondering, I plan on being cremated so my appearance in a casket is of no consequence. Just put whatever's left in the oven and then pop me in a nice vase on the mantle.
Amen to that TSC!

I agree with both sides of the story here. I was faced with this very decision just over 2 months ago. When my dad died we as a family were asked did we want his organs donated. Now in his case it was a very bad motorcycle accident and not many organs could be used but things like eyes and such could have been. My opinion was if there is somebody out therer that needs them then they can have them.

Now it is true that some wife beating murderer could be the reciepient but so could a small child who has never seen his new puppy! I tried to ask myself "What would daddy want?" Well daddy was a giver and would help anybody out in any way he could so I know he would have said "take them".

I don't see anyway that could be devised to screen organ reciepients based on their criminal history or status. That would be like saying, "Well Mr.?????, we can give you a heart transplant becasus you have a history or domestic violence and a DUI so we are sorry but your going to die in the next few days when your heart quits" I know that is a very harsh and extreme case but that would be the logic behind all decisions.

I say if I have something left that is still good and somebody else can use it then let them have it. If my organs end up in the body of a wife beater then when he meets his judgement it will be his to answer for.
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What are you concerned about you'll be dead. Lets hear some more irrational excuses. No wonder tens of thousands die waiting for organs.

well that decision is MY business now isn't it?

But dead is when ALL life has left the body.That is to include the heart stop beating.
So I guess you do not know as much about the subject of organ procurement as you are trying to present yourself as knowing.
Smurph no one said it wasn't your decision to make. You chose to share your decision and publicly explain your reasoning at which point your statements are up for criticism.

If you are concerned about "your business" perhaps you should keep it to yourself.

You are free to go into the ground with all organs intact and I'm free state my opinion that your decision is wasteful and socially irresponsible.
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Smurph no one said it wasn't your decision to make. You chose to share your decision and publicly explain your reasoning at which point your statements are up for criticism.

If you are concerned about "your business" perhaps you should keep it to yourself.

You are free to go into the ground with all organs intact and I'm free state my opinion that your decision is wasteful and socially irresponsible.


Phoneix Rising you are intentionally picking.WHich is my OPNION of your responses, to which I have the right to speak as well. I was not the only one that is NOT an organ donor,,yet mine was the response you CHOSE to pick apart. Your BS stopped cutting it with me along time ago on these forums .
Well, I'm in Huntsville. She lives in Meridianville. She's had her kidney for 3 years. She said she may need another one in a few years and asked if I knew anyone willing to donate. AWKWARD conversation over the microwave lunches!!! Smiler

Anyway, Smurph, I totally respect your decision not to donate your innards. Yes, they do 'harvest' organs from folks who are brain dead and therefore still alive by machines. It freaks my mama out, too. She is afraid if she is a donor than the docs may not do all they can to save her in order to take her parts. I smoked for 15+ years and drank like a fish when I was in college, I'm blind, and my ticker aint' that hot... so I'm not really worried about my stuff being in huge demand! Also, I guess I'm just not that attached to this world. I'm not suicidal or anything - but I am not too stressed out over going to meet my Maker. To each their own though. I understand both sides of this issue.
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Well, I'm in Huntsville. She lives in Meridianville. She's had her kidney for 3 years. She said she may need another one in a few years and asked if I knew anyone willing to donate. AWKWARD conversation over the microwave lunches!!! Smiler

Anyway, Smurph, I totally respect your decision not to donate your innards. Yes, they do 'harvest' organs from folks who are brain dead and therefore still alive by machines. It freaks my mama out, too. She is afraid if she is a donor than the docs may not do all they can to save her in order to take her parts. I smoked for 15+ years and drank like a fish when I was in college, I'm blind, and my ticker aint' that hot... so I'm not really worried about my stuff being in huge demand! Also, I guess I'm just not that attached to this world. I'm not suicidal or anything - but I am not too stressed out over going to meet my Maker. To each their own though. I understand both sides of this issue.


Come on now, TSC. You make it sound like you're falling apart. Can't be that bad. Ease up on yourself a little...lol. Wink
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I'm an organ donor [...]. I figure that if God wants someone to have a second chance at life, they must be worth it in some way or another.


Yep. I second your comments, I agree whole-heartedly, and that's why I checked the box on my DL and also included it in my Will.
All of my brother-in-law's usable organs were donated. They sent my sister letters each time they were used stating who got them. She kept the letters for the kids, but just couldn't keep reading them. She said people of all ages got them. He had beautiful blue eyes and I am so glad someone could use them. It's bitter sweet, but I know it would make him happy to know he contributed to the happiness of others.

MarianLibrarian, my family knows I want to donate my organs. So, I guess I'm good.
Well our son ,when we lost him that morning , I am sure we was in shock when the lady ask about both donor cards, without giveing much though, other than we knew how much our son loved life & he was very caring & luving young man, So yes we signed both, We find out two men my age at the time , one in Hershey Pa & one in Dayton Ohio can see today . I understand what they have to do, when one is a donor , but I try to never let that though over ride the good that comes from it. not judgeing ones who don't sign the donor cards as wrong or bad, but thankfull for ones who do . to be honest we both have not signed one, just another thing we keep putting off. a good Post is when people have to think ! from " Bama "
For those who wish to serve others, one can be a living donor of bone marrow. There are restrictions--I could not join the registry because I have mitral valve prolapse. Most individuals are no so restricted.

It's easy to be added to the list--all they initially need is a sm. sample of your blood in order to test for certain qualities to be matched. If you should be a match in these areas, you will be called back in for more sophisticated testing.

One word of warning: the removal of healthy marrow is painful, but not excruciatingly so. I would urge everyone on this forum to consider this.
joy, i was that way too. Then in 01 my husband was in a terrible accident @ work and we were told that he may need blood. My fear of needles went out the window & I immediately went to see if my blood would match, only to find out that my blood would not be immediately available. but I gave blood anyway knowing that someones spouse or possibly even kid could be saved with my blood.

They also have plasma donating at Huntsville Hospital, it takes a little longer but the way I understand it, the needle & everything is the same as giving blood. & some places like Huntsville Hospital give $20 gift cards to nice restaurants or to walmart & free pizza cards to everyone who gives.

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