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Hi Vic,

Actually, this forum is much more a Religion Forum than I would like to see.  When the TD began this forum, I suggested it be named the "Faith & Family Forum" -- to distinguish it from a "religion" forum.

There are many world religions, including Roman Catholicism.  And, religions have one thing in common -- they all are man-created and base their worship on traditions, rituals, and such. 

Whereas, Christianity is a relationship, not a religion in its purest form.  We do not have traditions and rituals which define our relationship with God -- we have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, which defines our position with God.

So, when it comes to religions -- I tend to walk a wide berth around them.   It is much more comforting to have a relationship with Jesus Christ and follow His teachings -- than to worship a papal office and follow that church's teachings. No church or church sacrament can save a person.  Only Jesus Christ can save us.

So, I have to disagree with you.  The problem, and most disagreements we have here on the forum -- is due to religions.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bill, the only people who agree with you are the nut jobs. You are NOT here to spread the "word" to anyone. You're here to try and agitate and pick at people that don't believe in your god, or believe differently than you. If you were sincere, you'd go somewhere, rent an empty building and have your own little church like the 1000s of other wannabe preachers. That way, anyone interested in your rubbish could come and listen to you. You post about the thousands of people "reading" but not posting. That's ridiculous and you know it.

There are not thousands of people reading these forums daily. Semi is absolutely right, anyone questioning their faith or wanting to know more would never ever be influenced to become a "believer" by you, and all you do for atheists is confirm that we're right about the fanatical group of so called christians that you belong to. Going back through the archives, anyone can read from almost day one how you antagonized people. You tell the same sad stories over and over, and any "throwing stones" at you comes AFTER YOU have insulted others beliefs, non-beliefs, or the way they live, even though you have no idea how they live.

All those posts, all those different people, saying the same things to you after you've belittled and insulted them, that people still say five years later. Something is not right with you. You're dealing with adults, with human beings, not some form of subhuman that you think you are so superior to and think you have the right to say whatever you want to say to them. I think you only get away with it in your "real" life because you have made sure to only surround yourself with people that you can treat that way, and for all your big talk, I don't think you actually approach people and say the things you claim you say to them. If you did, someone would have knocked you out by now.

This forum isn't your forum, we aren't those mealy mouthed people you deal with in your real world, so don't whine and cry and act so persecuted when you get your mess handed back to you. You don't know squat about me but that doesn't stop you from raring back and blowing your hot air all over the forum telling me how I need to give up "worldly things", and every day YOUR own wife goes to work, at an age when she should be retired, to chase that almighty dollar. If that's not your definition of "following the world or seeking worldly goods" I don't know what is.

Dang, Best. LOL.

Ya want some chrome polish for those huge, round huevos?

Couldna said it better myself.   (Actually I've been saying it all along-YOU just said it AGAIN. *Thank You*)

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Just wait, he'll say I attacked him or his family. How many times has this forum been going just fine, people getting along, for the most part, LOL, and in he comes to see if he can mess it up by making a thread about the very thing we're discussing so he can run down the christian that is getting along with the atheists, or discussing something with them without either side attacking, by saying that person is not a "real" christian or they wouldn't be agreeing with or getting along with an atheist? "Oh of course you agree with the atheists because you're a "mormon, catholic, feel good christian or vanilla flavored whatever", and not a REAL christian."

Yeah, that was very good, dead on.

for Best!

DF

Originally Posted by: Bill Gray

Hi Vic, 

Actually, this forum is much more a Religion Forum than I would like to see.  When the TD began this forum, I suggested it be named the "Faith & Family Forum" -- to distinguish it from a "religion" forum. 

There are many world religions, including Roman Catholicism.  And, religions have one thing in common -- they all are man-created and base their worship on traditions, rituals, and such.  

Whereas, Christianity is a relationship, not a religion in its purest form.  We do not have traditions and rituals which define our relationship with God.

So, when it comes to religions -- I tend to walk a wide berth around them.   It is much more comforting to have a relationship with Jesus Christ and follow His teachings -- than to worship a papal office and follow that church's teachings. No church or church sacrament can save a person.  Only Jesus Christ can save us.

So, I have to disagree with you.  The problem, and most disagreements we have here on the forum -- is due to religion.

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If it’s much more a Religion Forum than you would like to see, don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.

Yes, we know all about your “it’s my religion forum cause I told the TD to give me one”. We’ve heard it thousands of times.

Churches practice religion, every church has it’s traditions/rituals & none of them are alike. Why will you only attend a Filipino church? Is it their traditions/rituals you like or the domination men have over female's?

It's good that you walk a wide berth around religion, considering who your Master is. Same old, same old…trying to convince people here that you’re saved.

You're almost really good at trying to convince people that you have a relationship with Jesus & His teachings, but you still don't actually have the convincing part down yet.

The people here are much smarter than you are & see beneath the mask you wear.

Just exactly who was it on this forum that has ever said a church or church sacrament can save a person? Didn't you just make that up?

No, Bill! The problem, & disagreements we have here on this forum -- is due to you. 

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You'll probably get one of his really cute cartoons, or possibly a Duh!

Jen, what you said is good, but I am SURE that isn't REALLY what's going on with Bill. At least not THIS part: "You're here to try and agitate and pick at people that don't believe in your god, or believe differently than you." Bill does not care one whit what others believe. He is just using religion as an easy way to get attention. He's no different from the husksters who see an easy mark in the faithful, and so lie to the faithful in order to get money out of them.

The only difference is, with Bill, it is attention he is seeking. Bill needs constant attention and he has decided that the easiest way to get it is by trying to "scam" the faithful. If he REALLY cared about people's souls, he wouldn't keep insulting and chasing people away. There are several real Christians on this board he has attacked over and over again. It isn't because he truly cares about them or their beliefs. It is because he knows he can stir people up with those insults, and with all of his lies, and with all of those stories he gets from the wackos like Barton. That gets him ATTENTION.

He could just as easily picked a different group, but like the other husksters, he knows that Christians tend to be trusting of other Christians. At least at first. But he forgot that Christians are also smart enough to see through him pretty quickly.

I don't know what his personal life is like, but I think it's a good possibility that Jen has hit the nail on the head with that one. He MAY be a hero to "some", but he knows it usually doesn't last for more than a few sentences with most people.

But negative attention is better to him than no attention at all. And by responding to our negative attention, he can unleash all of his NON-Christian feelings. He is insecure about himself, and the chance to bash others gives him a sense of power. He thinks he can be as hateful as he wants to be if he tells people he is doing it in God's name.

It really ticks me off that he or anyone else should take my Lord's name in vain the way he does. It ticks me off that he is making other, TRUE Christians look bad. And it ticks me off to no end that he is possibly chasing people AWAY from God.

But I take solace in the fact that most people are easily able to see through him, so there probably isn't much harm done.

Except to himself.