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Study recommends total ban on smoking for soldiers.

You've seen the iconic picture of a soldier with a cigarette dangling from his mouth, but that could soon be a thing of the past.

A new study commissioned by the Pentagon and the Department of Veterans Affairs recommends a complete ban on tobacco, which would end tobacco sales on military bases and prohibit smoking by anyone in uniform, not even combat troops in the thick of battle.

According to the study, tobacco use impairs military readiness in the short term. Over the long term, it can cause serious health problems, including lung cancer and cardiovascular disease. The study also says smokeless tobacco use can lead to oral and pancreatic cancer.

The Defense Department's top health officials are studying the report's suggestions and will make recommendations to the Pentagon's policy team and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

The study recommends phasing out tobacco products such as cigarettes and cigars over a five- to 10-year period.

However, the suggested ban does not sit well with many in uniform, including retired Gen. Russel Honore, best known for coordinating military relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina-affected areas with an ever-present stogie. He said soldiers at war need to puff.

"When you're tired and you've been going days on end with minimum sleep, and you are not getting the proper meals on time, that hit of tobacco can make a difference," said Honore, who was in charge of the Army's training programs before he retired.

Other soldiers questioned whether this was a good time to stamp out smoking, given the Army's concern with a high suicide rate.

"For some, unfortunately, they feel that smoking is their stress relief. Well if you take it away, what is the replacement?" said Sgt. 1st Class Gary Johnson.

The Pentagon supports the goal of a tobacco-free military, said spokeswoman Cynthia Smith.

"However, achieving that goal will depend on coincident reductions of tobacco use in the civilian population," she said.

Dr. Ken Kizer, the author of the study, found that civilians don't smoke as much as soldiers. One in three active duty soldiers smoke, he said, adding that among the general population, that number is less than one in five.

The Pentagon banned smoking in buildings on bases years ago. It has counselors on call to help service members quit. But while local governments have heavily taxed tobacco, the commissaries often sell it at deeply discounted prices.

"The military sends very mixed signals," Kizer said. "This is what's confusing to people."

The study found that profits from those tobacco sales -- $80 million to $90 million -- often pay for recreation and family programs on base.
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I totally disagree with this. First of all, let me start by saying I live on post. My husband is an active duty soldier. We are a non-smoking household. Don't smoke, never have, never will. I hate cigarette smoke with a passion. However, some of these soldiers need to puff. It is a tension relief for them. Imagine living in a war torn country for 15 months at a time dealing with all the daily stress that they deal with. Trying to stay alive! Trying to keep your family back home happy. I could start a list that could go on for hours. This is absolutely ridiculous!
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Originally posted by geddon97:
I would like to meet the person who is going to enforce that rule.


The Air Force, some years ago, put into place a policy that would disallow anyone who smoked from holding a command position, even an aircraft commander. The rule didn't really require a lot of enforcement. It would be easier than one would imagine.
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Originally posted by gracies old man:
As long as tobacco is legal and citizens have the right to use it, then soldiers who fight for our freedoms and rights should also be able to use it.


A common misperception. Soldiers do not have all the rights that other citizens have. The military can, and should, implement this ban.

Of course, I'm retired and the order won't affect my cigar enjoyment, but banning cigarettes is a good thing. Or, conversely, the military could make quitting cigarettes a very good idea even without a ban. Try running two miles in sixteen minutes if you're a heavy smoker.
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Originally posted by DixieChik:
If you are going to ban cigarettes -- you need to ban alcohol and hookers and anything else that a soldier may use to relieve the stress...sorry, I disagree. If they can fight for my freedom, they can smoke like a freight train...they've earned that privilege...
...............DITTO !!!!!!!!!
The DoD's already banned the, um, employment of hookers. They call it "trafficking in persons" but it's banned for military people worldwide. Just as an aside, General Order 1 prohibits sexual contact between soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan and, well, anyone else. I expect it wouldn't take me long to get to the point where I wanted to kill someone. As I recall, it didn't...
I just don't see how you can ban something that is legal to buy and sell...until they make nicotine an illegal drug - they can't exactly do that in my opinion. Yes, I know this is the army and they can do what they want...but just because you can do something doesn't mean you should...

Yes, they may have banned hookers but until all of the strip clubs and topless bars around the base are closed own -- they still have an outlet...that was what I was referring too...
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Originally posted by geddon97:
"prohibit smoking by anyone in uniform, not even combat troops in the thick of battle".



I would like to meet the person who is going to enforce that rule.



Ged, I SOOO agree with you there!!!

Any hot, dirty, thirsty and tired Soldier who sits down for a smoke with their M-16's (or whatever they carry), then someone would be a perfect "IDIOT" to mess with him!!!

Tobacco HELPS them relieve stress, so what is the problem???? If it takes a cigarette to comfort or calm down one our OWN, then so be it.

Our Servicemen put their lives on the line for all of us to have the "FREEDOM" to sit here and discuss this issue, and now they have to ut up with that???

Something is "INDEED" wrong with this picture!!!
Interventor -- that is very true, but they are wanting a "total ban" on smoking...both stateside and abroad if I'm understanding it correctly. That infringes on our soldiers freedoms in ways that will come back on the rest of us when the government cuts back on more of ours...I'm against the ban too...if they can die for me in battle -- they can smoke all they want...
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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
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Originally posted by interventor1:
Alcohol is illegal in Iraq and Afghanistan per General Order No. 1 for soldiers and civilian employees. That said, I'm against the tobacco ban.


True enough. Fortunately, it didn't apply to the Brits, who were very sharing people.


Or the Aussies either.
I am vehemently opposed to smoking. I'm allergic to it. My daughter has asthma and when a person smokes around her, it makes her sick. It should not be legal for anyone to smoke in public. Period.

A friend of mine works at Red Lobster in Nashville and he said RL has passed a policy that no one can smoke while on duty at work. Restaurant owners lose money on employees who smoke and I for one, hate the idea that my food is getting cold or my glass is empty because my server decided to take a smoke break.

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