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Originally posted by mislidja:
I posted about the school lockdown then deleted it after seeing this thread. Last year after a local shooting there was a lockdown also.


Thank you for paying attention to the threads and not letting it get overrun with 5 threads on the same topic.

This is a terrible situation for the Greenhill community. I hope they find this guy and hold him accountable and find out why on earth he would go to this extreme -- there had to be another way to get a resolution than this -- my thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends...
My daughter texted me. Rogers was under lockdown a little over an hour ago. Police were at the school. These kids are not only hurting for the loss of their schoolmate, but also are scared. She said they have prayed for the family and their own safety. Heartbreaking when your children are scared and you can't be with them. Please pray for the family of these victims and the children of Rogers that they may find some way to cope with this tragedy.
This took place on County Rd 73, if you are familiar with the churches in the area, it is on 73 between CR 47 (Lone Cedar Church of Christ) and CR 34 (Stutts Rd Church of Christ). It is also not far from the Lauderdale County Children's Home. What a horrible, horrible tragedy. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
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Originally posted by kkelley:
Freedom of the press - a necessity; however, what is your opinion on all the recently televised and newspaper stories on similar deeds? Do you think so much recent press contributes to actions of those who are angry or unstable over their own private situation over which they feel they have no control?
Just throwing this out. I don't see how it could not be inflamatory to a person who cannot handle his anger/emotions. JMHO. What's yours?
I think they should allocate a comparable amount of time to showing these people being fried in the electric chair for their crimes. Or if they get life without parole, show what really goes on in the showers in AL State Prisons.
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Originally posted by feedingthegooddog:
theres a special place in hell for all these men killing their families and children.


And for the women who drown their kids while their husbands are at work, and so forth. To act like men are the only ones who do these things would be irrational. Not sure if you meant it that way, just want us to remember that this can happen to and by anyone, regardless of sex or social status.

This is truly sad. My family's prayers are going up for all affected by this today. It happened about 2 miles from my house, but I don't think I know the people personally.

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I just heard that one of the victims worked at Belk's and that the store is also on lockdown. This has not been confirmed.

I wish the police would tell us where they think this crazy psycho is right now. They can track the three vehicles that he's driven, but can't tell us what area he was last seen near?
I agree TSC I have things to do but don't want to get out and run into a standoff or chase because if this guy my nerves are bad enough already. it is only about 2 miles from me as well and my 1st cousin whose dad (my uncle) is employed by the sherriffs office can't tell either one of us anything when we called to find out if what we heard was true he couldn't even talk so they must be running like crazy. I hope they find him soon. This is just to close to home for me and I'm hoping that when the kids get home from school that they don't know these children that well because that would break my heart even more than it is breaking for this family already.
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Originally posted by kkelley:
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Originally posted by Gr8toBme:
They said on WAAY that the person of interests home has been set on fire... they have a crew on the way

If so, the person responsible could have set it to destroy any evidence of premeditated action.


Yea, I don't think he's going to be able to claim mentally unstable -- this is obviously premeditated and well-thought out...
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Originally posted by kkelley:
previous post edited just for you Prowler.


I'm kind of suspicious that people who are mentally unstable (because of or during a tough life situation) enough to commit these crimes may see the exposure that some people get through the media and decide to emulate the behavior. Although I'll say that this one sounds like a crime of rage aimed at the people who the killer believes is responsible for hurting them and trying to "hurt them back", which is different from some others who commit campus killings or terrorist acts that blame society but kill people who are not responsible for the original hatred.

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Originally posted by DixieChik:
does anyone know the ages of the 2 kids that were shot? Hearing one of them might have been a softball player...don't want names ...


I hope this is not crossing the line to post, but I know that one of the kids (daughter) was a junior at Rogers and played for both the JV and Varsity softball teams. My apologies if this is revealing too much detail.

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Authorities are searching the home that was set fire in Somerville / Priceville. They think he may have torched the place and then killed himself. We can only hope.

Also, his parents are missing and authorities are trying to locate them as well. They were supposed to testify against him in court yesterday and did not show up.

My prayers go out to the Morgan family and the Garner family. This was such a horrific tragedy.
Other news agencies are saying that he set the house on fire and several of his cars. They are saying that he might be in the house. I would still keep looking because from what I understand one of the cars is still missing...

This is hard on them that go to school with her. I know that those I have talked to are in shock because of things that they are hearing. As you can imagine not a lot of learning going on today.
No, definitely not, but at least they are together and have teachers and counselors there to help them get through this together...

I wouldn't stop looking either -- if he premeditated this like it appears he did I'm sure he might still be alive...also, he seems to be a selfish man so I doubt killing himself would have been his 1st choice for hiself...he played God for the rest of his family but would he be able to kill himself...
No I haven't heard anything about the F150 except now he's in a different vehicle and I don't know where...this was reported on WAFF...he set fire to the first 2 but it didn't say he set fire to the truck...apparently he was still alive up til a bout 12 based on the vehicle stuff...which makes me believe he is not in the house that burned -- otherwise, they wouldn't have had those other fires in the meantime...maybe I have the time line wrong though which is very possible...I guess Im just hoping this man is alive and that he gets to answer for his crime without taking his own life...
this is really making my head hurt thinking about all of this being so closed to home. Greenhill has always been such a great place to live and after moving to petersville for a few years I came back to greenhill and don't ever want to leave again. My kids play ball at rogers (dixie youth) but the sports family well the Rogers School family in general is really close for the most part and when something like this happens it takes its toll on us all. Going to be really sad times on the hill. Please find this guy (alive) so he can suffer for what he has done.
The Athens Courier article stated that the victims included Tammy & Chelsie Garner, then said the other two were "Garner's sister and her 13-year old son". Other articles I've seen say that Garner's sister was going to testify against him at this divorce trial today. The phone at that house is in Tammy's name so obviously it is where she was living. I had been under the assumption that Tammy was with a relative of hers but apparently it was his relative. Interesting.

Makes me wonder this:

What is bad enough to make one's own sister testify against them at a divorce hearing?

Just what was going to come out at the divorce hearing today that he wanted to keep a secret SO BAD that he would rather be remembered as the worst kind of murderer?

Maybe some day this story will be known so the community can get a better grip on what has happened and move on to dealing with the grief without so many questions. I wouldn't be surprised if some things come out soon to make this kind of like the situation one year ago (the timing is spooky) that cost a Lexington student her life at the hands of her father.
This is so so so so sad. I was shocked when checking CNN this afternoon and saw Northwest Alabama in a story. I have family in Lexington, so I read it.

I'm very very confused about details of this case, but I realize they are still emerging.

Was the home that the wife and teenage daughter lived in burned?

Was the father's residence burned? Or were both homes burned?

Several of you have posted that a body was found burned inside a home, but I can't figure out WHICH home or who?

I'm really hoping that it ISN'T the deranged killer because I too would like to see him answer before a judge. It seems suicide would be a really painless death for this man. Truly cowardice.

I'm hoping there will be some sort of justice for the moms and kids. This isn't right at all.
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Originally posted by firemanemt:
Better yet FloTown why didn't the sorry SOB just shoot himself and leave the harmless chidren and women alive. Atleast we won't have to support him in prison or jail for 20 years or longer like we have so many on death row that should have been done away with years ago


My thoughts exactly....
well there are children involved and kids hear stuff at school then they come home and tell the parents there will be a million versions of this tragedy before it is all over. But I have always been told not to take every word that is said to heart but if you listen to all the stories you hear you can usually put most of the story together. And when you have something this tragic happen in a community like Greenhill where the ones that live there consider everyone there it hits the whole community hard and people will jump to conclusions because most are in shock. So give the people a little time to stress out and say what they want to say. And how many times have you ever known of the media reporting the whole truth. Thats just part of being able to talk!!!
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
This story has gotten way out of hand. There are so many different versions going around that the truth is only a small fraction of what's circulating. STOP the hear-say. Even the papers are screwing it up because everyone is trying to be the first to get the info out there. RETARDED!


Your name says it all - at least the last word of it - Jerk -
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
This story has gotten way out of hand. There are so many different versions going around that the truth is only a small fraction of what's circulating. STOP the hear-say. Even the papers are screwing it up because everyone is trying to be the first to get the info out there. RETARDED!


Why are you here??? Roll Eyes
To grow up, live, and work in this community almost all of my life I am deeply shocked. Raising my own children and looking at them today makes my heart break for what that family experienced. A brother, a uncle, a father, and a husband could never do those things. A real man would just do what he could to rectify the wrongs in his life and move on and would never hurt those he loves. I do also agree with an earlier post that their are crazy women out there as well.

In my daily life I see a lot of things that I do not want to but nothing has saddened me like this in a long time. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and I can only hope that time will heal some of the wounds. I am sure that it will not heal all of the wounds left by this tragedy. God bless this family!
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Originally posted by firemanemt:
Better yet FloTown why didn't the sorry SOB just shoot himself and leave the harmless chidren and women alive. Atleast we won't have to support him in prison or jail for 20 years or longer like we have so many on death row that should have been done away with years ago


You are totally right about that.
i'm glad the sob killed himself. he didn't deserve to live. i'm just glad he didn't take an officer of the law with him, too.

whatever your problems are, you don't go killing people over them. what did that 11 year old kid have to do with his problems? or any of those people, for that matter.

move on, don't murder people!
Roll Eyes.....can we please get back to what this thread was about a tragedy that my family and every other family in greenhill are going to have to deal with, especially the family of the ones who lossed their lives to this senseless act of violence. osj you must not have to drive by the school and see the ballfield everyday because it is going to break many hearts and hold many shedded tears for a long time to come. My 8 year old came home telling me how all the girls at the school were crying today and she was really upset to because the girls in her class all really looked up to the boyfriend and they know he is upset and hurting. And the whole school is grieving and the younger children as well as the older ones that were actually friends will be trying to make since of it all for a long time to come. Please continue to pray for the victims family, the students @ Rogers and the communities of Greenhill and Priceville.
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
Now, that I have addressed ignorance, I will now address idiocy. UNA and jjulie, where do you get off addressing me like that?! What about what I said makes me a jerk or doesn't warrant me being here. I have been around here longer that both of you jacknuts and I dare you to prove your points. Trust me, I CAN be a jerk if you want me to. What I said was true and did not deserve your stupid replies. The story HAD gotten out of hand. You know what? Screw you! I do not have to explain myself to you or anyone else. As far as I'm concerned you both can have a coke and a smile...


You come on here acting like this is your forum and that everyone else is "in your words -ignorant " and you dont think you will get called names ? Jacknuts ? Stupid ? Screw you ?
Wow , I see why everyone loves you on here , Roll Eyes

Julie must have hurt your littl feelings for you to come back so hard !!! Good job julie , you got him . lmao Big Grin
I think we are all a little emotional about this subject but I think we can all agree that this is a terrible tragedy and that we need to wrap our hearts around this family and this community and help to make this situation as bearable as possible without all the fighting and bickering.

What Outspokenjerk didn't understand was this thread and this forum was part of the eyes and ears yesterday with the information because the news media wasn't even on the ball about it. There were a few conversations that were proven incorrect (the aunt/nephew thought to be the mother in law/son) etc, but for the most part -- a lot of the conversation was right on target and I appreciate everyone that was involved because that helped to keep people away from the scene trying to get inforamtion etc...no one was ugly in their comments or disrespectful from what I recall -- unless it was after 2 when I left for a while...

I think our hearts were in the right place and that we wanted to know what happened and that we wanted to understand what happened...there are no words to describe this situation...

Julie -- outspoken has been here a while and he isn't always so sharp in his words and I don't think that his first post was intended to be ugly -- I think it was to just remind everyone how rumors can get distorted...at the same time OutspokenJerk -- I don't think that calling people names because they don't agree with your post is a little to far and that got ugly and I hate to see that...both of you have been assets to this forum...take a step back and breathe and let's get back on the same page of supporting this community and this family...
Dixie - I agree with you and want to support this community! I hate to be ugly on here to OSJ - or truthfully to anyone else.

I became offended by the posts they made and for some reason chose to end with the word "RETARTED"
- I do not like that word thrown around just because someone doesn't know what else to say or is trying to be cute.

But, this thread is not about me and what I am offended by, and it should not be.

I apologize very sincerly to you, Freebird, and anyone else I have offended.

My thoughts and prayers are with all touched by this horrible, sad, tragedy.

I deleted my prior posts because it was very tacky, classless, and should not have been made!
Thanks ya'll but having been here as long as I have -- I've seen most the oldies that post and I'm still learning the newbies, but I think we are all a great bunch of people and that we can come together for the better in these type situations...

I really just want the topic to stay focused on this family and this community and not on us on the forum...I could not imagine being a friend or family member in this...in one day, 2 parents lost both their children and both their grandchildren and another family lost a daughter, a sister, a niece and a granddaughter...that's a burden that is heavy to bear...I pray they find peace with each other and come together in this and don't find themselves at odds ...
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Originally posted by TPLAW2:
Edited: same name, different person.

I'm so sorry that this has happened again. I want these senseless killings to stop. I pray that this man is caught before he kills again. I want them to find him alive. Killing himself is a cop out. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel.

My heart goes out to this family.


That was probably the best thing, TP. This guy wasn't going to be taken alive. If an officer was forced to shoot him, the officer would have had to live with his actions, stand trial, then there would be a civil suit.....you know the drill. While taking his own life leaves no room for justice, at least it gives the family a sense of closure and no one else was put in danger.
You took the words right out of my mouth Onecrazymomma! My son plays football with her boyfriend. The whole school and comunity is in total shock! My son doesnt want to talk about any of this and is really worried about his friend. The whole football team is! How do you explain this to those younger kids at Rogers? Just a sad day in Greenhill!! Footballersmom27
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Originally posted by onecrazymomma:
Roll Eyes.....can we please get back to what this thread was about a tragedy that my family and every other family in greenhill are going to have to deal with, especially the family of the ones who lossed their lives to this senseless act of violence. osj you must not have to drive by the school and see the ballfield everyday because it is going to break many hearts and hold many shedded tears for a long time to come. My 8 year old came home telling me how all the girls at the school were crying today and she was really upset to because the girls in her class all really looked up to the boyfriend and they know he is upset and hurting. And the whole school is grieving and the younger children as well as the older ones that were actually friends will be trying to make since of it all for a long time to come. Please continue to pray for the victims family, the students @ Rogers and the communities of Greenhill and Priceville.
Ok OSJ your still not getting the point we are all trying to make. You come on here blasting and name calling to other members on the forum and telling them they were out of hand for trying to find out if the information they had heard was correct or not. You are absolutely right this is a forum. Which means not only for opinions but for questions to others to to get to the real answers. If you want to exacts don't read a forum watch a newscast. And most were own here to speak there mind on the actual topic of the tragedy not to blast others for asking questions!! I think that is what upset most of us because you were taking shots at the people on here who whether from the community or not that was truly concerned with what was going on. And the senceless murder of one child much less two by a parent no less had many of us truly upset and just getting it off our chest and you had to make it about how wrong people trying to find out information.

I am greatful to know that you do actually care and didn't mean for it to come off that way. All I'm saying is for those of us who had any contact with the victims the name calling just sounded a little disrespectful.

All I am asking is please don't throw insults at people who are grieving as is so many in this particular situation.

The kids at school are having a really hard time with all of this and is the rest of the families so please keep them in your prayers.
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Originally posted by Henhouse Prowler:
Outspokenjerk - Your feistyness is noted but your timing cold use some work. Folks here (including jjulie, see above) are trying to put the tiff to an end so we can get on with discussing and supporting each other through this. Now would be a good time to bury that hatchet.

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Just for the record I did apologize to "jjulie". Thanks.
I don't necessarily agree with the presentation of OSJ's first post, but the content was perfectly valid. If people want to show compassion and respect for the family members, friends, and community, then they should start by having the common sense and decency to not repeat everything that their friend's cousin's neighbor's ex-sister-in-law's aunt said as though it's fact. Having the restraint to not do that is called personal responsibility. It's one thing to report what's heard on scanner channels or from someone clearly on the scene and informed. It's another to report that "they are saying" another body was found in Lexington and one on Locke Six Road as was done in this thread. Screaming "Fire!!!" in a movie theatre is against the law for a reason, you know. Personal responsibility is a big part of having common sense and being respectful of other people.
Back on topic, this is close to where my wife grew up, but we didn't know these people. We still feel for them. It's been a rough week since I had an older cousin die.

What we'd like to know and don't know who to ask is about the little boy's father. Is he alive? Did he live here or up north. I'd assume (and hope, if you understand) that he's upset over this and needs our help.

Anyone know?
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
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Originally posted by UNA LIONS FAN:
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Originally posted by outspokenjerk:
This story has gotten way out of hand. There are so many different versions going around that the truth is only a small fraction of what's circulating. STOP the hear-say. Even the papers are screwing it up because everyone is trying to be the first to get the info out there. RETARDED!


Why are you here??? Roll Eyes


Why are any of us here, UNA LIONS FAN?


Hey OSJ- My question to you maybe should have been: "Why are you reading this thread that you think of as retarded?". That is one thing that I don't understand when it comes to forum readers. If you don't like a certain thread, go to another!

Yesterday's posts were written while the suspect was possibly still on the loose. Everyone on here was most likely scared, sad, and mad! So anyone with a tidbit of info was posting it to inform others. Like someone said, most of the info given here ended up being correct.

Now if people had started the "OH, I know her! She was my coworker's cousin's husband's sister-in-law", I would have gotten ticked, as well. Normally that's what happens when something tragic occurs. Some people want to 'prove' that they 'know' the victim. But, that was not going on yesterday. I think everyone on here had the same feelings and reasons for posting.

I pray for the families and friends involved and that our community does not have to go through something so horrific again.
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Originally posted by E. T.:
Back on topic, this is close to where my wife grew up, but we didn't know these people. We still feel for them. It's been a rough week since I had an older cousin die.

What we'd like to know and don't know who to ask is about the little boy's father. Is he alive? Did he live here or up north. I'd assume (and hope, if you understand) that he's upset over this and needs our help.

Anyone know?


The SI has an article on this. Very Sad.
yes, Kevin's parents live here and are on up in years and not in the best of help. We were told this morning that his mom was taken to the hospital yesterday -- I'm sure the stress of all of this is taking its toll. I'm not sure if they admitted her or just treated and released, but please keep both the Morgan and the Garner families in your prayers...

Outspoken Jerk -- please let it go...join us in supporting the community and the family and show us your heart and not your mouth in all of this...you were obviously misunderstood and I took up for you, but your last few posts continuing this unnecessary drama are just that ... unnecessary...I know you are a good person -- so show the rest of them that...
You must be devoid of even an ounce of empathy to look into the eyes of a child you helped create and bring into this world and take her out of it in an instant. I would step in front of a speeding train without thought to protect my child. And I know that for most of us parents the biggest fear that sets in after bringing that precious baby home from the hospital is of something bad happening to him or her. Truly the most selfish, cowardice and savage act a "parent" could carry out.

I will keep all in my prayers. I especially feel bad for Kevin Garner's parents. Not only did they lose two children, but two grandchildren as well. Pitiful.

If any of you hear of a memorial fund set up for the family, please post the info.
I had basically the same thoughts on this. How can anyone bring intentional harm to their own child? I can see( NOT understand) how a man can become so angered at his estranged wife he looses all control of rational decisions,but to murder ones own child is beyond anything I can even imagine.
The only thing he did right that day was to execute himself. I am sure there are many who want to believe he snapped or some long named mental illness. Considering all the events and how the day played out,it is appearing he planned his deeds down to the very last detail. Pure evil at work.
AND,if his own family was preparing to testify against him,then the evil was already growing in that mans heart.

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